The collected works of GL1zdA - Page 2

I have a DEC Multia VX42, but it came without the vertical stand. Does anyone have one for sale, or knows where to get one?
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I guess it was the successor to InfiniteReality, which became the ATI based Voyager:
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SGI still intends to lead in the production of high-end systems for visualizing complex computer models, Kelly said, but has decided to do that by using other broadly available graphics chips instead of designing its own. To that end, the company has canceled work on custom chips for its "Bali" project for top-end graphics machines, laying off or transferring about a quarter of the people involved, said Drew Henry, general manager of the visual solutions business unit.

http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-229638.html

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kramlq wrote: ... from NeXT specialists http://www.blackholeinc.com/

With worst webmasters I've ever seen. Their HTML/Webdesign skills are an insult to NeXT...
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josehill wrote:
GL1zdA wrote:
kramlq wrote: ... from NeXT specialists http://www.blackholeinc.com/

With worst webmasters I've ever seen. Their HTML/Webdesign skills are an insult to NeXT...

Keep in mind that their target users are NeXT enthusiasts. The current web browser situation on NeXT is even worse than it is on IRIX! Black Hole's website is pushing the limits of what a NeXT web browser can handle.

By doing it in Word 2007?

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<head>
<meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document>
<meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12">
<meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 12">
<link rel=File-List href="index_files/filelist.xml">
<link rel=Edit-Time-Data href="index_files/editdata.mso">
<!--[if !mso]>
... and here 600 lines of MS specific code

And the fake navigation menu on the left? I thought Firefox had some issues, but after looking at the source I realized there really are no links there - this is like slapping Tim Berners-Lee in the face.
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I hope it will be soon available for Linux distros. As far as I can remember, CDE was an option on some early Red Hat releases.

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ScutBoy wrote:
IIRC, we ran Win2K Server on them. I don't remember their being any really exotic drivers, but there might have been a HAL disk to manage the 8-way procs.

The exotic thing is its chipset - the Intel Profusion, which AFAIK is the only "standard" Intel chipset capable of 8-way SMP operation. It was based on technology by Corollary (same people who did the 6-way IBM PC Server 720). Other Profusion servers were the IBM Netfinity 8500R and xSeries 370.

Some links:
Compaq 8-Way Multiprocessing Architecture
Profusion An 8-way Symmetric Multiprocessing Chipset
OPRF100 MP Board Set Technical Product Specification
Tuning IBM xSeries Servers for Performance

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Is there any difference between all these RAM modules with different PNs (030-1060-003, 030-1060-004 and 030-1060-005)?
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At that price you could get the Fuel in a non-basic configuration.

I'm not amused. It's a PC (standard AMD chipset) with a MIPS CPU attached via HyperTransport instead of an Athlon, which runs Linux and feels no different than running Linux on any other hardware... In the 90s you bought a MIPS because it was fast and ran IRIX, after 2000 you bought a MIPS because it ran IRIX, now there is no reason to buy a MIPS unless you want a worse Linux/Android experience than on x86/ARM hardware.

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geo wrote:
so if there is a new MIPS based laptop using non PC bus system, which OS you want it to run? we know IRIX cannot be ported anymore :(

I don't think there exists now an OS, which would give you any additional benefits over what Windows-Linux-MacOSX provide you and wouldn't run on a PC or would give you any additional benefits on non-PC hardware. I would love to see some nice hardware for Icaros Desktop , but it's not going to happen because it won't run better on anything than Intel CPUs, because the all the JIT compilers are optimized for Intel hardware (look at the RAZR i benchmarks - Android for ARM is here for four years and it is worse than Intel in only one benchmark - JavaScript). But I'm still waiting for the Natami - paired with Icaros Desktop it would give a modern OS with the ability to seamlessly run Amiga programs.

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geo wrote:
how about minix? i like his concept of microkernel and self healing, will really give us a reliable machine right? hmm can imagine minix 3.. on a mips system ^^

While I enjoy reading about OS architecture I really try to think about OSes in terms of what I can do on them and not how they were implemented. MINIX is a great OS to teach system programming (when I was at university we were using MINIX to do our assignments like implement memory allocations algorithms or writing simple drivers). I've read about Tanenbaum vision to use it for cheap computers, but for some reason it didn't happen - probably there was no advantage over Linux.

As for the MIPS. Maybe someone finally comes up with a PSION 5mx successor. Android runs already on the MIPS so it would be mostly a matter of integrating everything and designing a good looking handheld. It's a shame nobody did an ARM compatibility library for Android on the MIPS, which would allow running ARM apps without recompilation on it, something like libhoudini for Android on Intel.

hamei wrote:
Free market capitalism is great, absolutely wonderful.

To be honest it's a warped version of free market capitalism. The problem is we still don't know what to do when a company is so big that it destroys the free market. I wish Intel was divided several years ago in at least three independent entities: cores, CPUs and FABs.

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Just wanted to report that the 2 kits arrived and my Fuel was successfully upgraded. Very good communication with ramq and fast shipment!
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Lupin_the_3rd wrote:
and ideally has maxed out memory of 256 MB.

The maximum for a Multia is 384 MB : 2 x 128 MB + 2 x 64 MB.

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pentium wrote: If you're insane I believe you can install Windows NT 4 for PowerPC on the 800 series laptops. ;)

OS/2 for PowerPC might also work on the 860.
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Looks great. It's the first time I see a XT/370, so forgive me if it's a stupid question, but why are 2 chassis needed? I always thought the XT/370 is an XT with a set of 3 ISA cards?

PS. William Gibson on the shelf behind 8)

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Computer Graphics goes back to 1982.
Same for ACM Transactions on Graphics (TOG) .
ACM SIGGRAPH Computer Graphics goes back to 1969.
Paywalls often go down when accessed from academic computers.

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Cookies? Do you use a proxy to connect to it? Maybe cookies are lost somewhere between you and SF.

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hamei wrote:
PymbleSoftware wrote: In which browser?

You're right ! That's strange ... divider line is there in Internet Exploder but not Fireflop. Two flavors of fireflop. Don't have Safari handy at the moment to check ...

Have you tried Ctrl+0?
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rem wrote:
And write the cd on slowest speed possible fyi.

This isn't always the best idea. I did some tests years ago on my Plextor Premium, which could verify the burn quality, and after setting the burn speed to low the error rate raised dramatically. I would 52x CD-Rs with at least 16x-20x.

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How stable is this build? I always thought about installing it, but feared it would crash a lot. Isn't FX!32 built-in in Windows 2000 (in System Properties/Advanced/Perforamance options/x86 Programs, second picture in this post )?

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bluecode wrote:
Now that UEFI is shipping and you're going to need permission from WinTel to run anything but Windows 8 on your brand new WinTel or WinARM box, this http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/11/26/2016228/is-intel-planning-to-kill-enthusiast-pcs is nailing the coffin shut.

UEFI <> Secure Boot and Secure Boot can be disabled on Intel boxes. As for BGAs, here's the whole roadmap. As you can see affected are i3s and lower CPUs. Which is logical, since after making a SoC there mainboard would be almost empty. This is what Intel wants to do and IMO it's the right direction, although $300 is to much for such barebone.

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Nuke wrote:
GL1, do you have anything in English about it?

One of many articles about Intel going BGA:
http://wccftech.com/intel-broadwell-sky ... ream-cpus/
Everyone is citing, interpreting and speculating about what PC.Watch has written about . It's a tempest in a teapot.

You can read about NUCs more at Intel website .

bluecode wrote:
GL1zdA wrote:
UEFI <> Secure Boot and Secure Boot can be disabled on Intel boxes.

Maybe for now, but we can expect that to silently disappear. And even now it not trivial according to what the guy on Distrowatch said about his recent laptop buy.

Until there are people buying Linux laptops there will be manufacturers making them. Making a separate product line without the "Designed for Windows" sticker and without Secure Boot won't cost them too much.

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The Phi is what became of Larrabee . The 60 cores are not modern Xeon cores (Sandy Bridge) but Pentium cores with some extensions.

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vishnu wrote:
Then again Apple is probably making more money from a free software product (FreeBSD) than anyone else is making selling Linux-based systems, and it's precisely the GPL that precluded Apple from using Linux in OSX...

I don't think so. XNU is opensource . I think this choice was made because Mac OS X evolved from NeXTSTEP and it wouldn't make much sense to replace the whole kernel with Linux.

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hamei wrote:
A screen-saver used to cost $400.

I don't think After Dark did cost more than $49.95 ;)

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Oskar45 wrote:
BTW, one of his puzzles [among the most popular of all time] is "Rush Hour". I don't know whether it's available under Android - but if you have an iPad/iPhone, get the full version. It costs less than €2.50 and gets you 2500(!) challenges...


I played several variants of Rush Hour and I somehow didn't like it. While I could solve the puzzles through heuristics, it usually boiled down to finding a move you previously haven't seen. The way I solve it is similar to my approach to Sokoban or Vexed - discarding moves which are clearly wrong, imagining the endgame and trying to find the moves in between. On harder levels I add chains of moves which result in certain situation on the board. What's your way of finding a solution to Rush Hour puzzles?

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vishnu wrote:
Well if you ask RMS he'll tell you that Google stole Linux, because they are not contributing their kernel patches back to the main line. They don't have to because they're not selling their version on the open market, just using it on their machines in their data centers. That's what GPL v3 is supposed to prevent, but Linus won't change the kernel source from GPL v2, much to RMS's deep consternation and anguishment... :lol:

What you are talking about is AGPL not GPL v3.

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vishnu wrote:
GL1zdA wrote:
vishnu wrote:
Well if you ask RMS he'll tell you that Google stole Linux, because they are not contributing their kernel patches back to the main line. They don't have to because they're not selling their version on the open market, just using it on their machines in their data centers. That's what GPL v3 is supposed to prevent, but Linus won't change the kernel source from GPL v2, much to RMS's deep consternation and anguishment... :lol:

What you are talking about is AGPL not GPL v3.
Spoken like a true license attorney... ;)

Well, I work at a small company which is developing webapps so we really have to care about licenses and this means I have to be sure I'm not GPLing our app by accident. Open source licenses are the easiest to understand - read a commercial license from Mickey (thanks for this name hamei) or Adobe - this can be painful. I recently understood MS Remote Desktop licensing - now I feel so smart ;)

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ClassicHasClass wrote:
I just remember lusting over the Indy when it was advertised and for sale. No chance of buying one then. Many years later, I finally got one.

Same for me. I still remember SGI advertisements. Or the article when O2 was introduced. It's really a great feeling when you get an Octane for $10, check the original price and realize, that you have a computer, which once was worth $30000 and was then a dream in terms of performance.

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The CPUs are on the IP57 nodeboard, here you can see where it is and how it looks like . More pictures (first one is from a deskside Prism).

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The ICE is not the most exciting piece of SGI hardware, unless someone is interested in how to design and cool a dense system.

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It's not an Altix. It's an Altix ICE , a dull x86 cluster.

hamei wrote:
What's there to get ? Racks, numalink cables

There are no NUMAlink cables on the ICE. It's IB based.

hamei wrote:
maybe Itanic chips (are those soldered to the modules ?)

No Itanics either. There are only obsolete Xeon 5300s (Core2 generation) inside.

hamei wrote:
and yup, you hit it -- commodity memory.

DDR2 FB-DIMMs...

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Baby Tezro ;)

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crrn wrote:
I have problem removing this blue shield which goes from cooler to RAM docs. Any hints? Do I have to remove HD first?

Have you tried doing it this way ?
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2. Can I use USB pen drives as it has USB ports? I tried to do it but with no luck. what FS type the pendrive schould be? how to mount it?

Unfortunately no .

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crrn wrote:
One more question that comes to mind. why it reported broken memory DIMM previously and now we think it could be PM?
I assumed IT IS MEMORY but now I'm confused...

Cache is between memory and the CPU, so if cache is broken reading/writing the whole RAM becomes unreliable. If it would be one DIMM you wouldn't end up with all banks disabled and it's unlikely that all your DIMMs are broken. Since you live near Warsaw you can PM me if you would like to test your Fuel with a different set of DIMMs - I have 4 256 MB modules left after upgrading my Fuel which I can lend you.

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SAQ wrote:
Why stop at 20? O3k will go up to 1024!

Do you mean a 1024 CPU NUMA system or a cluster? According to the SGI Origin 3900 Server Site Planning Guide the maximum is 512 CPUs, but I'm aware, that the guides often omit the unofficial versions (like the 512 CPU Origin 2000).

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3dchris wrote:
If two Onyx 350's are NUMAlinked, are they treated as a single, large system with the combined ram, CPU and graphics?

IRIX will present you CPU and RAM as if it was in a single system, but graphics will be treated separately, you have to combine it yourself.

Here are two guides which might help you:
SGI OpenGL Multipipe SDK User's Guide
OpenGL Performer Programmer's Guide

3dchris wrote:
If that's the case, do the graphics get their combined power to run a single display, or is each graphic pipe treated separately? Also, how would this type of a system integrate into the SGI Compositor hardware?

Here's the description of the Compositor:
The older one (VPro only - Onyx 350, Onyx 3000): SGI InfinitePerformance: Scalable Graphics Compositor Owner's Guide ( HTML version - techpubs have some problems with it)
The newer one (works with VPro and SG2 - Onyx 350, Onyx 3000, Onyx4 and Prism): SGI InfinitePerformance: Scalable Graphics Compositor rev. B User's Guide ( HTML version - techpubs have some problems with it)

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Is anyone here using Amazon Glacier for his backups? I thought last year about building a FreeNAS array, but making a RAID-Z2 array would require me to buy 6 HDDs and of course all the other parts. Amazon charges $0.01/GB per month so having a terabyte archive would mean $10 monthly and not having to worry about hardware/configuration/power. It's managed through a web service, but if you don't want to write your own client, there are several to choose from. I'm using FreeGlacier , but I can change it at any time, since it's not tied to the service. The only downside is that Glacier works more like a tape backup - you can't just download your files, you request such operation and wait 6 hours for the file to be prepared for download.

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SAQ wrote:
GL1zdA wrote:
Is anyone here using Amazon Glacier for his backups? I thought last year about building a FreeNAS array, but making a RAID-Z2 array would require me to buy 6 HDDs and of course all the other parts. Amazon charges $0.01/GB per month so having a terabyte archive would mean $10 monthly and not having to worry about hardware/configuration/power. It's managed through a web service, but if you don't want to write your own client, there are several to choose from. I'm using FreeGlacier , but I can change it at any time, since it's not tied to the service. The only downside is that Glacier works more like a tape backup - you can't just download your files, you request such operation and wait 6 hours for the file to be prepared for download.


My concerns are time

This depends heavily on your upload speed and archive size, so calculations have to be done for every case separately.

SAQ wrote:
security (partially solvable by encryption)

This is a property of all cloud services and I don't think you need more than to encrypt your data.

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and what happens if they decide to pull the plug tomorrow

You can say that about any company your doing business with. But I think the chance of Amazon pulling the plug is as high as a natural disaster destroying my backups. And of course everything depends on the data - not all of your data needs equal security. I wouldn't backup critical data on Glacier or at least it wouldn't be the only option.

SAQ wrote:
Contrariwise, how do you verify their backups (or even for that matter verify your backup in a timely manner)?

You could periodically download some archives from their service and verify them - shouldn't be hard to write a job which uses their SDK to do such things.

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Bumping this - I still want the stand. Can offer something between 10-15 GBP (+ shipping fees) for it - this the price Ian asks for Indigo2 stands.
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AWE32 should work, I have an AWE64 Gold in mine with SB drivers which came with NT 4.0 (I'm using NT 4.0, never tried 2000). I tried a PCI sound card based on ES1370 (similar to Sound Blaster 128), but it works OK only till the next reboot after driver installation (but this is a common problem, I think it's described in the AlphaBIOS release notes).

As for video. I don't know whether you can use NT 4.0 drivers with 2000, but I can tell you what works on NT 4.0. Permedia 2 is cheap and versatile (it will run the AXP version of Quake II - slow, a bit above 10 FPS at 640x480). Every Permedia 2 card I tried worked (ELSA GLoria Synergy, Diamond FireGL 1000 Pro) and you can mix it with any driver (ELSA/Diamond/Digital PowerStorm 4D10T). Old ELSA GLoria (3dlabs Glint based) cards also work - tried both GLoria XL and GLoria L. I have tried the PowerStorm 4D60T - a bit faster than the Permedia 2 in Quake II and supports high resolutions. I'm currently using the 4D51T, not as fast as the 4D60T but still nice. I have drivers for the PowerStorm 300/350, but I never tried them since I haven't acquired the cards. One hint: if you have, like me, several cards in your Alpha, they might only work well together when in specific PCI slots. I had to shuffle my cards several times to get the 4D60T working.

The 164LX is a great board, but since it's ATX be careful and remember to pull the plug and press the PowerOn button before you touch it.
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