The collected works of Dodoid - Page 2

ClassicHasClass wrote: How many in your production run?

I'm 3D printing them using my own printer, so there's no "production run" per se, though I do plan to purchase the SBCs and packaging materials at least a few at a time to save on shipping. A complete print takes a little over a day and a half, so I've just started DBJ974's and whoever orders next will have theirs made after that finishes. Orders are added to a queue when placed and printed in order, so if you're hoping to get yours early, you would save some time by ordering soon (though shipping time on orders of SBCs to be packaged with the Indigo may reduce or negate the advantage of ordering early if you choose to order with one). If you want one, don't worry about quantities, just order it and unless there's a huge flood of other orders, yours will be printed within the next few days.

DBJ974 wrote: Very nice, i like it !
Bought

I started your print yesterday afternoon. It should be done tomorrow morning. As the order page says, because you ordered an SBC and I am still gaging how many I will need to order, your order should be assembled and ready to ship in 2-3 weeks (SBC comes from Korea). Thanks!

WRP does this using Webkit, which is neat. I wasn't able to make it work, but YMMV.

Aaaaaand they're gone!

Shock indeed! I didn't even get my eBay alert message for "BeBox" or "Be Box"!

For most people my age, their first computer ran Windows 7 or 10. If they're into computers like most of my friends, they probably built it from random Kijiji parts or if they had a little more to spend whatever Canada Computers had on sale. They put all the parts together, never even had to open the BIOS, and now they're happily browsing Reddit and playing Steam games on their Core i5. Most people my age have never used computer hardware older than their mom's 2006 Vista netbook or the school's Pentium 4s. That's not to say they're not computer enthusiasts, or that they're stupid, but their enjoyment of computing comes from seeing really big benchmark numbers, setting up cool desktop backgrounds and customizations, or if they're into programming writing Node.JS Discord bots, complaining about PHP, or making 4MB websites with more CSS than HTML. They look at something like an Octane and think "300mhz, only 1GB RAM, old looking software, weighs 60lbs, case is all plastic with no RGB lighting, can't even render Instagram". Even if they're into computers, the aspects they find interesting are not the same ones which we do. Stuff like how the later systems' architecture favors throughput over processing or how the O2 is arguably more centered around it's CRM graphics chipset than it's CPU get lost behind easily understandable numbers like "300mhz" or "1997". To most of my friends, different/interesting/forgotten approaches to computing look backwards and ridiculous, not novel or ahead of their time.

Getting back to how I explain my hardware, my friends obviously aren't bothered by me owning things that don't affect them, but they probably think I'm strange for owning a ton of old computers (8 SGIs + parts, Sun Blade 2000, 7 ThinkPads, 5 old Apple machines, Atari 600xl, etc) and not just selling them to replace my X220 with a MacBook Pro (something I actually used to have, but replaced with an X220 ). My family is fine with the machines so long as I keep them in my bedroom or "lab" (more of an asssorted mix of working and nonworking systems of numerous ages with monitors on top of everything and random ethernet cables all over the floor, rather than your traditional idea of a "computer lab" like in a school). There's plenty of room for as many workstations as I could realistically want (though not enough room to display them as nicely as jan-jaap has), unless I want to recreate that SGI 750 cluster that used like half of the 750s ever produced. If I wanted to get larger systems, according to my measurements I have plausibly clearable spaces in my bedroom for up to one Onyx2/Origin2000 deskside, one Onyx/Crimson/PowerSeries/Onyx2/Origin2000 deskside, and one Origin2000/Onyx2/Origin3000/Onyx3000/Onyx4 (but not Onyx or PowerSeries, too deep) rack, though I don't see myself owning all of those systems anytime soon. When I rearranged the room in December, I planned it specifically to support up to 3 larger scale systems. The lab is really packed, and even finding space for Octanes can be hard, so I don't think any large systems could go down there.

I'm 14. Most of my friends used a computer before that, but most kids get their first personal machine around the age of 10 or 11 or so when they start Grade 6 or 7 (I have had them for far longer than that, though I bought by first "actually modern" post Core2 one, still my main Xeon rig, when I was 12), so that was 3-4 years ago. That means 2013 or 2014, so most people I know's first personal machines were Windows 8-powered convertible tablet things, or maybe Chromebooks.

A lot of people got hand-me-down Dells or HPs with 7 though.

I would use a self driving car only if were open source and stored maps locally when parked so as to avoid any wireless communications while driving. If we get a Google car that is always online, constantly invading your privacy, working off of unknown algorithms, and has about as much security as your doghouse, there's no way I'm even standing in front of that thing while parked.

I am also fascinated by AVs, and I don't have anything against them at all. I just want to ensure that the car I'm riding in isn't easily exploitable. Nobody can write bug free code, so while there's a lot to be gained by looking closely at your code and trying to think of what might be a security hole, I wouldn't trust the vehicle to communicate wirelessly. Some guy by the side of the road could well disable the brakes with the right hardware and a good exploit. IMO, V2V communication is too big of a risk.

Udacity claims to be facilitating collaboration on an open source autonomous vehicle, and seem to have solved some but not all of the problems. Not sure if it will ever produce a real, physical car, but I would be interested in following the project.
https://www.udacity.com/self-driving-car

Hey, for like two years when I was 9 or 10 my main desktop ran Vista because I had a spare key. I actually quite liked Vista, but the audio drivers for my motherboard were XP only, so I never had audio on that box.

Auto tech section, but all auto tech must be IRIX powered. Anyone have an XIO card for OBD2 ?

vishnu's worked above, but they were ><. I'm guessing it has to do with HTML, so I would try <>


Working OK here, Firefox ESR 45.9.0 on Linux (Qubes OS Debian AppVM).

As for selling commercial software I have no idea, but if we're interested in more secure/anonymous/decentralized/accountability-shrugging ways to send pirated software, Freenet would likely work well. We would have to make the USK for it known among ourselves without placing responsibility on Neko though, which means that it's probably best to just email it around.

Newsgroups technically still exist as well. We could go back to comp.sys.sgi!

SGI's twitter just got renamed to @HPE_HPC... Shame, I liked their posts about old machines.

Seemingly, the calculator uses something called CRCalc, which was apperantly written by and released as open source by SGI. Who knew?

I may or may not be working on a worldwide SGI part inventory, collection showcase, and offer making site, and there may or may not be an almost complete version running on Apache on my Mini Indigo .

Just read this, and then did some more research. It seems like the Xena is developed by XMOS, which is apperantly a descendant of INMOS, developer of the Transputer. Apperantly it's theoretically possible to connect other XMOS Xena chips over the Xorro bus, daisy chained to get a crap ton of processors.

Also, apperantly the browser is actually decent, which is seriously impressive. I know of the difficulties Nekochan has had porting Webkit to IRIX (in fact, we've never done it at all) and they seem to have it on AmigaOS 4.1.

Glad to hear you're getting an Octane, LarBob! What specs?

My school bypass is Tor. I would rather the school board not have my IP, though they may already. Privacy sucks here. I will copypaste something I wrote on Reddit about school computers and the school relying on Snapchat for announcements.

Oh no, they're getting rid of Windows.

In favor of Chromebooks and Google Drive... Also, say hello to WiFi that requires you to sign in with your student number so that they can monitor your web activity even on private devices, encouragement to log into Google accounts they control and have the passwords to on personal devices, all out blocking of hard to censor/surveil internet protocols, and MAC address based tracking. A few months ago I discovered an old handwritten poster from at least 5 or 6 years ago with login credentials for an anonymous WiFi account (they still track MAC, so I spoof it) but it's throttled to crap to encourage you to use the one tied to your real name. At the beginning of each year they give you a sheet of paper with a list of URLs on them and a big dotted line to sign on. The URLs are well over 100 pages total of PDFs detailing just how much they love invading your privacy, but it's all 7 pages down under buzzwords like "cyberbullying prevention" and it's all in their special, almost obfuscated brand of legalese.

Google Classroom is the one tolerable one, really. If we used it like you're supposed to, Google could probably collect a lot of information on you, but really all students use it for is passively checking due dates. I keep it in a separate Qubes OS VM just to be careful.

To be fair, online announcements are handled by Student Council, not the administration, so they use what they're familiar with (snapchat). I wouldn't say you have to "encourage" people to consider social media to be a norm though. Essentially everyone I know/see on their phone in class is an avid user of either Instagram or Snapchat.

My school board wants to make sure they know everything about you and record everything you do online, both at school, and if possible, at home, because "cyberbullying" and "safe space". I'm at school right now, so I'm posting this over my mobile data just to be safe (Nekochan is not HTTPS). Sucks that while Canada's government is a bit better privacy wise than the US, at school I may as well be in China.

I think FreeNet could be helpful here. Censorship resistant due to distributed storage, encrypted and anonymous (URL contains a key, otherwise it's gibberish), does not require hosting or even an internet connection once the site is inserted, and allows nice, updatable sites (USK) to index all the software.

Nekochanners could also add each other to the Freenet "friends" system to allow for messaging and make sure inserted data spreads to each other fast and is accessible to all of us (just in case one of our networks is too "far" from another and the data is not accessible). We could even set up "friends only" mode so that it never spreads off our network of machines, or only spreads when we want to use our bandwidth for strangers.

I think if we ran Freenet servers on machines in our houses, we could even access them directly from our SGIs using Mozilla because the Freenet client is effectively a webserver and backend. Freenet sites are all 90's like anyway due to bandwidth and no serverside on distributed networks, so they should look fine even on our old browsers.

Windows 10 is an operating system trying to be Windows Phone and Windows 7 at the same time, and it's really bad at both. I dumped it for Qubes OS a few months ago. I can still run my Windows apps in Windows 7 HVMs, and Qubes handles interoperability extremely well. Installing an XP VM for IE8 testing right now. Qubes means it can run in a window, install from an ISO in my main Debian VM, and network only to my Server VM via the Firewall VM without an internet connection for security. If it does get compromised, the rest of my system is protected because it's only a VM. Unfortunately there's no Qubes Tools for XP, so file transfer will be FTP via ServerVM, but I don't have to worry about my FTP server being FTP because FirewallVM protects it from NetVM and the outside world.

I really like the SGI keyboards and mice in the respective settings windows. Maybe represent graphics/monitor settings with a 13w3 connector ?

This is the image placeholder in one of my upcoming projects (not IRENKA, but maybe it should be):

Computers fail. I would rather the failure happen in my house, next to my reinstall CDs and screwdrivers, rather than in a datacenter where they're doing who knows what.

Hoard your SGIs I suppose!

They don't have the "Steve Jobs" factor, but your 20 Indys will surely be worth something someday. The days of the $25 decommissioned Onyx are (far before I ever got into SGIs) over.

I recently got a late model 17" G4 from a garage sale. $25! It's in my latest video, nice machine.

WOW.

I would absolutely love to do an Indy unboxing on my channel, but I suspect I would have to pay a lot for this box (no pun intended).

Also, "a descendant of the Indy will be used in Time Warner's test of interactive TV"
I think I've seen pictures of that thing while working on my SGI History series, but I have no idea where they were. I tried to find them again and all I got were pictures of a NeXTStation.

Oh come on, it's a real Type 1 hypervisor (Xen) with a number of OSes on top and some hypervisor control features.

I agree that USB devices are annoying though. Thumb drives are alright, you can mount them to any VM using Xen Virtual Disks from the Qubes Manager which only takes a few seconds, but other devices require the new (as of 3.2) sys-usb feature that has to be enabled using qubesctl from the dom0 terminal and requires you to install qubes-usb-proxy on your TemplateVMs. Once it's set up it's alright but has to be used from the command line, so I wrote a Python ncurses UI to handle USB devices and some other Qubes things when I press the mic mute button on my ThinkPad.

Y888099 wrote: How have you made labels? I wonder why don't (if it's possible) put a micro drive (through a USB-CF adapter) inside the case. Can I see the inside? Is there a mechanical drawing sheet?

Nice project

LOL, just realized I forgot to get back to you. Labels were made by a company called StickerYou, kind of expensive but I got like 80 of them, so I can afford to mess a good few up .

It's too small for a 2.5" drive, but maybe some other sizes or something like mSATA on a USB to mSATA adapter soldered onto the USB3 pins via a ribbon cable.

https://imgur.com/gallery/DQ64j
Here's some pictures of the guts, but they're of an earlier revision (all parts IG-01 revision).

6.5.30 (and some of the later 6.9.2x'es) has some niceties introduced long after MIPS products had ended. It even does 64 bit time so that IRIX systems will survive the 2038 UNIX epoch.

I was wrong, just looked into it some more and apparently it's 32 bit. Unfortunate.

I think that's all of our questons.
Are you expecting $200 or $1500?

If you're willing to do like $200, I would be interested for sure, so long as shipping was sane, but I understand that the value of a boxed system may, to some, exceed that.

I don't see much changed on eBay, unless they all sold already. Are they somewhere else?

I love old SGI tapes. Super useful for when I spend 44 seconds talking about something aesthetically boring or nonphysical (eg. IRIX 5 launch problems) in my SGI History series and want to show something cool on screen.

It's like the company you're talking about has done the editing for you!

In Ottawa, would sell an Octane or maybe an Indigo2 if I can confirm both work. Interested?

Oh, eBay...

OK, so let's take a look at this "Silicone Graphics" product which is seemingly a "server workstation". I mean, I guess it runs Apache...

edit: removed a bit because I am stupid and have never owned a VPro Octane, apparently it's meant to be like that

Found a few terabytes of bog-standard SATA drives at an e-waste center. They are now being plotted for Burstcoin mining...

Hi there!

I'm about to order some ODROIDs for some recent orders, and since shipping can take a while, I just wanted to give you a heads up about it. If you're interested in buying a Mini Indigo soon, and would like to save a bit of shipping time where possible, then buying soon would mean your SBC would be bundled into the order I'm making soon, as well as allowing me to plan 3D print times accordingly.

Thanks!
-Dodoid

Yes. Don't tell HPE . If you want to use the stickers elsewhere, I could throw a few spare ones in the bottom of the box for you.

Trying to train a neural network (char-rnn) to write stallman.org pages, because why not. I spidered stallman.org, removed all the pages with no significant text, than wrote a PHP script to strip out all the HTML leaving just text and concatenated them all into a file. It was over 30MB of pure text. I then used that as training data. This is it's current output:

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I hope this doesn't break the "no politics" rule. It doesn't really make any valid, sensible, or grammatically correct points, so I don't think it really counts. It is smart enough to label some parts as "Urgent", which is interesting. It also occasionally understands how brackets work, and divides things into sentences seemingly at random.

This is after about 24 hours of training on my laptop's CPU. I'm not home right now, but once I get home, I will give it the same time on my desktop's GPU and see where that gets.

timezero wrote: Will there be an o2 version?

The O2 is very small, limiting SBC choice, but (at risk of Osborne-effecting myself) I did choose quarter scale to make the O2 possible in theory.

GeneratriX wrote: How is the crew?

If you haven't been here in a while (it looks like you haven't been too active since 2013), this might surprise you:
The only MIPS SGI workstation released during my lifetime was the Tezro.

Welcome back!

DDT wrote:

Dodoid wrote:

foetz wrote: the R8000 had floating point errors in 1998

What kind of errors ?

https://vizworld.com/2009/04/what-led-t ... chapter-3/

Though this is unfortunately not the original source (the original archive has been deleted and Wayback Machine doesn't have it), it quotes an archived email from inside an Australian university where this is discussed.

SGI has offered to upgrade Octopus from its existing 90MHz R8000 CPU
configuration to 195MHz R10000 CPU's for no cost to JCU. The R10000 is the
current generation processor used in all SGI's high end machines. SGI have
made the offer to two reasons:

o First to ensure that a rare and specific bug in floating point
calculation that has been found in some older R8000 systems does
not become an issue at JCU. I have run tests on Octopus and
it would seem that this bug is not an issue for us at JCU.

o Second to upgrade the Power Challenge so that remains at a modern
level of performance and compatibility.

All in all this is a generous offer from SGI (valued at ~$300,000) that we
should gladly accept.