gijoe77 wrote: I would have loved to see this girls face when she first saw the lyrics..
"So, what exactly ARE these things?"
"Uhh... OK, well the crossbar switch connects things together, like the CPU might... "
"Sorry, what's a seepeeyue?"
The collected works of Dodoid - Page 1
"So, what exactly ARE these things?"
"Uhh... OK, well the crossbar switch connects things together, like the CPU might... "
"Sorry, what's a seepeeyue?"
Someday I want to run a Windows VM with black desktop background, hidden taskbar, and a VNC connection to an Octane or something. When scammers call, I will open teamviewer so they are controlling the VM and then quickly alt tab to the VNC client. Watch as scammer tries to figure out IRIX.
Intuition wrote: Wow, just randomly today looking at old information stumbled upon an article which has a photo of a 1000 render node farm at PDI/Dreamworks in 2001 and lo a behold.... the nodes are all SGI Origin 200.
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4803
That must have been a million dollars+ of Origin 200.
JEEZ
Well the article says 20% IRIX, so it would be 200 Origin 200s but still, lots of Origins.
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rooprob wrote: Yes please!
Glad to see interest, but they aren't for sale yet. Still very much in development.
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IG-01 printing now. No "PT" moniker here. There may be minor revisions, but this means I consider the device good enough to sell in its current state and will focus on preparing for sale from now on. If you would like to contribute to the development of the device, a survey regarding how the community would like me to proceed with the project will be coming soon.
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Dodoid wrote: IG-01 printing now. No "PT" moniker here. There may be minor revisions, but this means I consider the device good enough to sell in its current state and will focus on preparing for sale from now on. If you would like to contribute to the development of the device, a survey regarding how the community would like me to proceed with the project will be coming soon.
3D printer has had some issues, upgraded firmware, trying again. Hoping for a complete IG-01 soon.
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Body printed nicely, new lid printing now.
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Hey there!
I just peeled the last piece of IG-01 off the 3D printer, and the unit has been successfully assembled. I took some nicer pictures of the unit and its parts, and they are seen here.
In total, production of all the parts for a mini Indigo takes roughly 24 hours of print time with perhaps 15 minutes of sporadic human involvement. If I time prints correctly, I can keep the printer running 24/7 without modifications to my daily schedule. You can see an ODROID-XU4 installed in the device, but a Pi B+/2/3 is also supported on the other side. The part of the design which I am most proud of is that the design contains zero screws, catches, snaps, or other complicated holding devices. It attaches entirely by pegs and holes built into the parts, and through tight tolerances can be turned upside-down, shaken, bumped, transported without it coming apart. Of course, when you want to take it apart, it takes under 5 seconds, involves no tools, and can be put back together in a similar amount of time. I plan to sell the cases and have buyers purchase and attach their own boards, as having me buy and resell boards adds needless shipping and tax costs for the buyer that would likely amount to a significant price raise. Selling units with pre-installed boards would also require spending a lot more upfront to manufacture a device, and could possibly increase order times on completed mini Indigos if I have to order boards from Korea.
I just peeled the last piece of IG-01 off the 3D printer, and the unit has been successfully assembled. I took some nicer pictures of the unit and its parts, and they are seen here.
In total, production of all the parts for a mini Indigo takes roughly 24 hours of print time with perhaps 15 minutes of sporadic human involvement. If I time prints correctly, I can keep the printer running 24/7 without modifications to my daily schedule. You can see an ODROID-XU4 installed in the device, but a Pi B+/2/3 is also supported on the other side. The part of the design which I am most proud of is that the design contains zero screws, catches, snaps, or other complicated holding devices. It attaches entirely by pegs and holes built into the parts, and through tight tolerances can be turned upside-down, shaken, bumped, transported without it coming apart. Of course, when you want to take it apart, it takes under 5 seconds, involves no tools, and can be put back together in a similar amount of time. I plan to sell the cases and have buyers purchase and attach their own boards, as having me buy and resell boards adds needless shipping and tax costs for the buyer that would likely amount to a significant price raise. Selling units with pre-installed boards would also require spending a lot more upfront to manufacture a device, and could possibly increase order times on completed mini Indigos if I have to order boards from Korea.
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computron wrote: is it possible to have a better surface quality ?
it's a bit rought !! no ?
Cheers
Eve
There are some things which could be done to improve quality, and I will definitely test them out, but ultimately the slow, layer on layer additive process of 3D printing means you are bound to end up with ridges of some sort. All you can really do is try to make them smaller.
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$2600 a year? Have you looked into Amazon EC2? Surely they would have some sort of a plan capable of hosting this site, there's not too many members... My dad pays around $100 a year in 3 year increments to host his site, though it may have less traffic than this one.
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nekonoko wrote: It's a possibility, but at a glance it looks like it's a lot of work to set up and configure as well.
Again coming from my dad, he describes setting it up as "trivial" and says that running a website the size of Nekochan (encompassing blog, forums, wiki, etc) would probably be around the $100 a year I estimated. The main complexity in Amazon setup comes from the sheer number of add-ons, options, and features you can add. If you want, you could make a free account which gives you quite a limited cloud server but it would be enough to get a feel for the service.
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nekonoko wrote: I just don't have the time right now to sink into a project like that. You're under no obligation to donate - it's just an option for people that want to assist.
Not a problem, I'm considering donating. Just making a suggestion for if you want to reduce operating costs, you don't have to follow it if you don't want to.
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Getting my machines home was not exactly easy.
I got my SGIs all together from a guy who seemed to be selling off his collection. I arranged the deal online, and agreed to get the items in my signature as well as two big parts boxes and some extras in exchange for two old laptops and an iPad 1. He was in a city near mine that my dad often visited for business trips (I'm too young to drive, otherwise I would have driven down there myself). A while later, my dad had to go to that city, and he agreed to pick up the machines. Now, when he goes there, he carpools with his business partner, who owns a relatively small car. He claims to have been very surprised at how large the machines were, and says they almost didn't fit. So after his business trip, my family was planning to go to our cottage, so he just went straight there and we met him. The first thing he said in regard to the machines was "The cubes were heavy". I didn't have a sync on green monitor there, so I put the Octanes, Indigo2, and Indys in a closet and decided to just use the O2 until I got home. So I set it up, everything is good. The issue is, we were trying to sell the cottage at the time. I ended up having to hide the whole O2 setup 3 times for showings. Since we were moving, we had to bring all the stuff from the cottage home, so I had to pack all the SGIs into the car as small as possible to make room for items ranging from lamps to outboard motors. Also, it was raining... We drive home, I worry about plastic skins, everything is fine, except my house is on top of a hill, and the driveway isn't. So I have to carry a lot of 50+ pound machines up 20+ stairs. I get them inside and unload them in the front entranceway, but the issue is that again, we're both moving and coming home from the cottage, so my parents are trying to unload cats, clothes, food and more into a tiny, awkwardly shaped room that's completely full of UNIX workstations. So I have to frantically carry them all down into the overfilled, messy lab and find places for them. A lot of them just ended up sitting on the floor.
Worth it.
I got my SGIs all together from a guy who seemed to be selling off his collection. I arranged the deal online, and agreed to get the items in my signature as well as two big parts boxes and some extras in exchange for two old laptops and an iPad 1. He was in a city near mine that my dad often visited for business trips (I'm too young to drive, otherwise I would have driven down there myself). A while later, my dad had to go to that city, and he agreed to pick up the machines. Now, when he goes there, he carpools with his business partner, who owns a relatively small car. He claims to have been very surprised at how large the machines were, and says they almost didn't fit. So after his business trip, my family was planning to go to our cottage, so he just went straight there and we met him. The first thing he said in regard to the machines was "The cubes were heavy". I didn't have a sync on green monitor there, so I put the Octanes, Indigo2, and Indys in a closet and decided to just use the O2 until I got home. So I set it up, everything is good. The issue is, we were trying to sell the cottage at the time. I ended up having to hide the whole O2 setup 3 times for showings. Since we were moving, we had to bring all the stuff from the cottage home, so I had to pack all the SGIs into the car as small as possible to make room for items ranging from lamps to outboard motors. Also, it was raining... We drive home, I worry about plastic skins, everything is fine, except my house is on top of a hill, and the driveway isn't. So I have to carry a lot of 50+ pound machines up 20+ stairs. I get them inside and unload them in the front entranceway, but the issue is that again, we're both moving and coming home from the cottage, so my parents are trying to unload cats, clothes, food and more into a tiny, awkwardly shaped room that's completely full of UNIX workstations. So I have to frantically carry them all down into the overfilled, messy lab and find places for them. A lot of them just ended up sitting on the floor.
Worth it.
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Also, you don't need to click stop for maintenance. Just press the ESC key, right after it boots, it will take you to the same screen. Also, welcome to Nekochan!
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Returned the printer I was using to the friend I borrowed it from, ordered my own (better) one. Testing faster, less hands-on production with the better printer.
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ClassicHasClass wrote: Some decals, too.
Planning to get decals for it. Already have designs, haven't ordered them yet.
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Still having printer problems. Tomorrow, I guess.
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Finally got the printer to do it's job. Still has some imperfections that didn't exist on the last printer, but the actual quality and fit is much better than the last (less rough, as computron requested).
A few imperfections, but generally better.
Fits an ODROID-XU4 (reccomended)
Or a Raspberry Pi 3 (not reccomended, you will need to use bluetooth and WiFi as the USB and Ethernet ports are blocked by the case)
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Any progress made on this? Like some others here, I don't really have the knowledge required to make it work, but if anyone else has made progress I would love to know.
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SiliconClassics wrote: I'm going to post each of these Indys to eBay with their original contents intact, with 20% to charity.
I fully understand your choice. Two questions, though;
Will you say which Indy is the one that has the Turok source on it?
Do multiple Indys have the source, or just one?
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Y888099 wrote:SiliconClassics wrote: Thanks, it's not unexpected - these kinds of reactions are typical.
I wonder why. It's so irrational
I think people are upset that he (claims he) didn't take a backup. People are unhappy that he is effectively throwing a rare artifact to the wind. I don't know if I agree with them, and SiliconClassics is certainly stuck between a rock and a hard place here, but I see the source of the anger. While I doubt it, someone could buy that Indy and light the drive on fire. People don't like that very much.
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SiliconClassics wrote: It's currently over $2,000 on eBay with three days left in the bidding. That would be an awful lot to spend on a computer just to take a sledgehammer to it.
I know. I don't think that will happen, but I think a lot of others suspect it will or more likely that someone will buy it and not release anything (which they are totally allowed to do but would piss a lot of people off). I'm just trying to figure out their rationale, not agree with them.
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SiliconClassics wrote: Dreamworks is supposedly the actual IP rights holder for Turok, but neither they nor anyone else has any legal standing to subpoena me about this sale. And I'm happy to report that the buyer is someone whom I know from past transactions - a stand-up individual who is exactly the kind of person who can be trusted to take care of this relic.
One question: I know you probably wouldn't have wanted to do this, but would it have been legal in theory for you to approach that particular buyer knowing that he would "take care of the relic" (assumed to mean leak the code) as opposed to selling it publicly, or is there some law against choosing to sell to a particular person with the intention that they will break copyright law?
Just curious, not suggesting you should have done that.
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SiliconClassics wrote: Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that the buyer would leak the code, just that he would properly preserve it and prevent it from being lost. And yes, the law does generally impose accomplice / conspiracy liability on someone who picks another person to do the dirty work, so I couldn't rightfully strike a deal with someone to buy the Indy and "fence" the code without exposing myself to potential legal consequences. But that's all hypothetical, and at this point neither I nor anyone else can know exactly what's going to happen with the contents of this Indy in the coming months.
Cool, good to know.
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Enjoy!
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foetz wrote: it's too short for covering those years properly. there's too much missing
If you feel I should release an addendum covering things I missed, that would be considered. What in particular do you think should be included? I try to keep my videos short(-ish), but if I missed something important I would cover it. Mind, 1996 products (O2, Origins, Onyx2) are to be covered next episode.
I know the InfiniteReality was released, but I tend not to cover individual hardware components unless they are really important later on (I mention the R8000 and IMPACT because the R8000 had floating point errors in 1998 and IMPACT is repurposed for the Octane and resulted in an Indigo2 color change. WebForce was later (1996, from what I can tell).
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Good write-up! I have been following the Raptor Talos project for a while, but they don't seem to have enough support to deliver a product and it's probably too expensive for myself anyway.
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Pointing a cantenna at my friends house and hoping we can connect via Xbee.
vishnu wrote:Dodoid wrote: Pointing a cantenna at my friends house and hoping we can connect via Xbee.
When I was your age we did that with two tin cans and a piece of string...
I think it would work equally well through buildings!
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Raion-Fox wrote: I emailed Mashek about a base and screws for me. But I'm not in dire need of a base.
If I sell the O300 I'll have enough to start looking at getting a V12 for the Onyx 350, and getting another O350
Ooh, CrayLink
. Is it missing a graphics board or does it have a V10?
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dexter1 wrote: Tasty! Where is your food-facebook page?
VRML-based CosmoWorlds Food-IRIX-outbox-folder!
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I... uhh.. remember when Ubuntu didn't use Unity and it still had Gnome 2!
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I don't use Ubuntu either, I just remember when it was like that. I usually go with Debian, except my main laptop which is Qubes.
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Their twitter is the same. Lots of fun retro stuff there. One time they posted a horrible timeline from Wikipedia which forgot what the Onyx was and claimed that the Crimson succeeded the Indigo and was apparently the same thing as an Onyx and Onyx 2. I replied, and they replied to me. Also, Tezros were apparently generally available until 2007, who knew
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I think they had stopped general availability though, didn't they? Only clearance? Also, the graph shows the Octane 2 being discontinued the day the Tezro came out, so it's still wrong
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Geoman wrote: It's somehow tragic, that now they do a brilliant fan-service for the community, SGI is probably going to disappear soon.
Their last post of this type was in January. I wonder if they've stopped it already.
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This episode covers Richard Belluzo and Robert Bishop becoming CEO as well as the introduction of their x86 products and a lot of other things! Here's the link.
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johnnym wrote: Nice one! Keep going.
Once I get the parts from Ian. The Indys have broken graphics cards (we think) and the Indigo2 has a hard drive but as far as I can tell the drive doesn't work. Same for the Fuel. It seems as if the previous owner of my SGIs (excluding the Fuel) mainly used the O2 and one of the Octanes, and left the other systems laying around long enough to develop problems without him knowing. No matter, they should work soon.
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computron wrote: it's a good initiative, but too much generalist.... no tech details or arch analysis.
you totaly omit to talk about SGI history important part : gfx pipe history and evolution !!!!
Cheers
Eve
As much as I would like to go further into depth, it simply isn't interesting to the majority of my audience. You must remember, I post these videos to Nekochan, but the majority of my viewers are just some random guy on YouTube who probably doesn't know much about SGIs or graphics tech. That's not to say nobody who watches my channel cares, it's just not most of them. The generalist approach, as you put it, is what most people new to SGIs want to see.
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The Mini Indigo is now available online! You can purchase one at
http://dodoid.net/indigo
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The 3D printed case is $20 USD, plus the price of an SBC and SBC storage device if you choose to buy one. Shipping is a $10 USD flat rate to anywhere in the world via Canada Post Small Packet Surface, sent to your PayPal shipping address. PayPal is used for payment. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me in this topic before you buy.
The 3D printed case is $20 USD, plus the price of an SBC and SBC storage device if you choose to buy one. Shipping is a $10 USD flat rate to anywhere in the world via Canada Post Small Packet Surface, sent to your PayPal shipping address. PayPal is used for payment. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me in this topic before you buy.
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