The collected works of unixmuseum - Page 3

Antnee wrote:
Ian Mapleson has told me today that Cordnet are saying the price in the UK will be about £4200.

Which makes it $8,000, quite a scoop there Mr Mapleson :lol:
Diego wrote:
Well; if we can back to the topic, I'm interested to ask if anyone here in the forum currently has tested the new "Silicon Graphics Prism Deskside", as far as I know, some companies are buying the new workstation from SGI, to accomplish several kind of tasks.

I have played with one a little, especially with the IRIX binary x-lator... Looked to work OK to me with a visualization application (although not extremely compute intensive, but it was still an IRIX binary as this particular application does not run on Linux). I'm going to get a loaner to further test with different IRIX-only applications... I am still questionning the reasoning behind an IA64 desktop as I don't think there are that many desktop type of applications that support IA64, so we might end up running Open Office for IRIX through the x-lator :lol:

I think a better solution for my needs is an Altix and other deskopts (Tezro maybe, or dual 600 Octane2)...
DaJuice wrote: Hey foetz, thanks for this build. :)
I believe there was an icon made for firefox already, but I couldn't find it, so I made this one. Maybe someone else will want to use it. I do wish iconsmith had more colors in its palette. :?

http://www.photobucket.com/albums/v123/ ... x_icon.png <dead>

Right Click > Save
http://www.geocities.com/stehrani3d/firefox_icon.gz

Very nice!

The ones I have look like that:

Image

The icon for thunderbird was made by someone else, I just changed the colors to make the ff one... The iconified pictures are what I'm trying to accomplish, but both ff & tb share the same WM name, so no can't do :cry:
babyrne wrote:
nekonoko

Your directory structure didn't turn out like mine.

In your projects directory, you have "setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu", whereas I have "setiathome.berkeley.edu"

As I understand things, that folder should reflect the URL of the project that it is attaching to, so I'm wondering how your's got a different name?

Not that it matters, your's seems to work, mine keeps throwing client errors. Maybe if it ever gets a work unit without an error I'll get the ssl directory.

Barry

Well, I am trying too, and I'm getting :
Quote:
2005-06-07 23:10:13 [http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/] No schedulers responded
2005-06-07 23:10:13 [http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/] No schedulers responded
2005-06-07 23:10:13 [http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/] Deferring communication with project for 2 minutes and 16 seconds
2005-06-07 23:10:13 [http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/] Deferring communication with project for 2 minutes and 16 seconds

So, does that mean nothing's happening? server down? wrong info?
OK, works now...
It's reporting:
Quote:
Measured floating point speed 397.78 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed 416.05 million ops/sec
jimmer wrote:
Hi all,

This is the first public release of my CD Writer applet. It wraps mkisofs and cdrecord in a SGI Motif panel.

Read the README, learn the various DISCLAIMERS off by heart and get it here: http://www.sillypages.org/sgi/

Enjoy!

Avi

MOST EXCELLENT!
cjones wrote:
Looks cool. So what are you using for a cd writer... is it internal/external? Just curious...

-chris

External SCSI Yamaha 8/4/24 for me, works like a charm! The CD burner that is as the cdwriter application doesn't seem to find (or look for?) any devices...
I also had to create $HOME/.cdwriter manually...

Also, the one I downloaded is not fully IRIXified like the snapshot on the download page: the check boxes are not the usual IRIX red check mark...
jimmer wrote:
Are you saying that CD Writer isn't picking up any devices to display on the recorder tab? If so could you post/pm me the output of 'cdrecord -scanbus' on your system.


That's right, it's not picking anything... The cdrecord -scanbus returns (actually, the sgi freeware cdrecord is not returning anything, this one is from dev toolbox):

Quote:
scsibus0:
0) *
1) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST336752LC ' '0004' Disk
2) 'FUJITSU ' 'MAM3367MC ' '0107' Disk
3) 'FUJITSU ' 'MAM3367MC ' '0107' Disk
4) *
5) *
6) *
7) *
scsibus1:
100) *
101) *
102) *
103) 'YAMAHA ' 'CRW8424S ' '1.0j' Removable CD-ROM
104) *
105) *
106) *
107) *

Interestingly, it doesn't see my PCI card cage as shown in hinv:
Quote:
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version QL1040B (rev. 2), single ended
CDROM: unit 3 on SCSI controller 1
Integral SCSI controller 5: Version QL12160, single ended
CDROM: unit 2 on SCSI controller 5
Disk drive / removable media: unit 5 on SCSI controller 5
Integral SCSI controller 6: Version QL12160, single ended
Scanner: unit 3 on SCSI controller 6


You're running as root aren't you? cdrecord doesn't let a simple mortal scan the bus, needs to have root privileges for some reason...
Actually, little correction there: the cdrecord from sgi freeware seems to see everything:
Quote:
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) *
0,1,0 1) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST336752LC ' '0004' Disk
0,2,0 2) 'FUJITSU ' 'MAM3367MC ' '0107' Disk
0,3,0 3) 'FUJITSU ' 'MAM3367MC ' '0107' Disk
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *
scsibus1:
1,0,0 100) *
1,1,0 101) *
1,2,0 102) *
1,3,0 103) 'YAMAHA ' 'CRW8424S ' '1.0j' Removable CD-ROM
1,4,0 104) *
1,5,0 105) *
1,6,0 106) *
1,7,0 107) *
scsibus5:
5,0,0 500) *
5,1,0 501) *
5,2,0 502) 'TOSHIBA ' 'CD-ROM XM-6401TA' '1009' Removable CD-ROM
5,3,0 503) *
5,4,0 504) *
5,5,0 505) 'IOMEGA ' 'ZIP 100 ' 'D.09' Removable Disk
5,6,0 506) *
5,7,0 507) *
scsibus6:
6,0,0 600) *
6,1,0 601) *
6,2,0 602) *
6,3,0 603) 'HP ' 'C5110A ' '3638' Processor
6,4,0 604) *
6,5,0 605) *
6,6,0 606) *
6,7,0 607) *

BUT, I still need to be root to get this... As simple user only gets this from a scanbus:
Quote:
Cdrecord 2.00.3 (mips-sgi-irix6.5) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
scsibus6:
6,0,0 600) *
6,1,0 601) *
6,2,0 602) *
6,3,0 603) 'HP ' 'C5110A ' '3638' Processor
6,4,0 604) *
6,5,0 605) *
6,6,0 606) *
6,7,0 607) *
Cory5412 wrote:
kshuff wrote:
Cory5412 wrote: You could also work in there a desire for some sort of hobbyist IRIX licensing program, $100/year for a "subscription" to the latest version of IRIX in tarballs or on CDs? (there was another thread about this somewhere, I'll have to search for it.


Yeah, what happened to that? Any progress??


I don't think it got anywhere, there were about 100 people who were willing to pay at least $50 for a hobbyist license. Several *(myself included) suggested upping the price, and doing it sortof on a "yearly" basis. (pay for that year, get the upgrades for that year)

I remember that it seemed close, because the person who started the thread (or who posted something and caused somebody else, like Diego, to start the thread) had actually been in contact with SGI people (lawyers, irix engineers, I'm not sure who it was), who had said that they were giving the idea of hobbyist licensing some consideration.

Though, I think that in order for SGI to really want to consider hobbyist licencing... some hobbyists need to buy boxes from them. For that to happen, the boxes need to be cheaper... and that's probably not really going to happen.

You know, I could talk all day to my sgi sales rep or marketing folks about a hobbyist IRIX and they will listen to me, they'll even pretend they're interested... The fact that they don't punch me in the face for talking about hobbyist IRIX doesn't mean it is happening. Sales is about being slippery and avoiding confrontation...

On the other hand, when I talk to folks from sgi I've worked with and known for years (i.e. no business on the table), the H word always makes them laugh... Support contracts are not that expensive, even though far from $10/month...

I'm not saying I would be against a looser licensing of IRIX for hobbyist. Heck, I am pretty impressed by how easy it was to obtain Solaris 10 (less than $17 for the DVD from Sun!), but I would not set my expectations too high. It's not because 100 people who can each invest $100 in sgi stuff want it that sgi sees anything in it for them and is willing to spend 10-20 times the return to make it happen.

Just to compare, try this: just walk to your closest BMW dealership and tell them you want to lease an 850i for $45/month with no downpayment, call it the hobbyist BMW contract... If they laugh at you (oh they will), just make a fuss: "but I waaaaaaant it". I bet you'll be kicked out of the lot very quickly.

sgi is about making money because they have investors. They are blowing their IP, shooting MIPS & IRIX by following the Linux trend, but that's just because that's what the investors want to hear. I can tell you that nobody at sgi thinks Linux is superior to IRIX, believe me...

And no, skippy running mozilla on a 3MHz machine drawing 1700W/h in his basement is not the salvation for sgi...

Sometimes people seem to hear and believe only what they want to hear or believe... Sometimes people also want to make believe they're more important or "connected" than they are... A sales rep (or sales manager for that matter) talking to you is not you being connected, it's you being sold to...

Just don't hold your breath on the hopes of a service contract at $150/y because the sgi sales rep (or local all things sgi emperor, add whatever pompous title you want to make both parties look important) didn't spit in Joe Blow's face for mentionning hobbyist IRIX and his still calling him by the end of every quarter...

Companies like sgi or IBM make most of their margin selling services contracts, not selling hardware. The hardware is what get them in the door...

Columbia wasn't a great hardware sales victory, it was a great PR and services contract victory.

So, if you get a half-assed sgi machine on ebay for $50 and are willing to invest a whole $10/month to get IRIX, where is sgi going to get his money back in services from you?
ajerimez wrote:
foetz wrote: 'real' ftp servers never have a gui.


But I NEED my big, shiny, candy-like buttons.

Come on guys, help the man out! It's for your own goods, believe me :wink:

Right from the horse's mouth:
http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/ ... swer=24073

neko_gaim goes down allright, I guess it is time to test the jabber thingy :lol:
nekonoko wrote: Well after reading the comments on Slashdot it appears that the GAIM crashing issue isn't isolated to IRIX - I'd say it's a bug.
No joy on Solaris either, you're probably right...
Siliconpaul wrote: Hi,

I'm looking for 2 eprom's version 011 for an Indy R5000.
Is there someone that's has them and want's to sell them to my.
That guy makes my very happy.
Please let me now...

Paul.
I think I do... Stand by...
Siliconpaul wrote: I own allready 2 R5000 (one for Bob) but not the EPROM.
I have two of these, but they're -008 revisions, I don't suppose you're interested, are you?
GeneratriX wrote: ...And the bad news are that we'll need at least U$D70,000.- :shock:

$70K for being able to plug a friggin USB device to an 8+ year old platform? AHAHAHAHAHAH!

You're telling me the kids who implemented USB support into Linux spent $30K to obtain the stack controller driver?????

You know what I can get for $700? A Sun workstation that will run twice as fast as a dual 400 Octane2, has 4 USB ports (USB 2.0, mind you) and two IEEE-1394 ports... Best of all, the list of common supported devices (both USB and firewire) is a mile long!

Thanks for your effort Diego, but no thanks...
Kellym wrote: Just thought this would intrest some of you max & maya users...

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/in ... eID=123112

Yep, it's being discussed here: viewtopic.php?t=7666
"IT" now sadly more than often means Microsoft Certified...
Satoru wrote: Wasn't exceed PaidWare?

Marco/Sat
Exceed is a commercial product made by Hummingbird... Exceed is the XServer, Exceed 3D is a module (i.e. more $$$) of Exceed allowing for 3D OGL... It works very well...
whiter wrote: I want to get rid of some toolchest entries, alter some others, and add some in between existing ones (not to the bottom!)

How can this be achieved using the .auxchestrc file ?

You need to create a .chestrc in your home directory for this, .auxchestrc will only add to the default toolchest...
whiter wrote: So that leaves the questions about how to add items on a specific location, and how to 'overwrite' an item. (could be done by deleting it first ofcourse, and then re-adding at the specific location. But how to do that?)
Tried .chestrc yet? ;-)
whiter wrote: ofcourse I do NOT want to modigy system.chestrc or .chestrc, since I do not want to change any systemwide settings. I'm talking about user-level modifications. Specificaly user-level modifications that do not alter/overwrite/hide anything provided by the systemwide default.

I specificaly asked about .auxchestrc. So the question still remains the same.

Anybody who knows the answer ?
And the answer still remains the same: create a .chestrc in your home directory, altering a copy of the system-wide chestrc... Same principle as creating a .backgrounds in your home directory that's going to overwrite the default desktop backgrounds...

http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi ... 079-PARENT
I guess I fail to understand why you'd like toolchest to source the system-wide chestrc and then source your auxchestrc to remove some entries... Wouldn't it make more sense to use .chestrc to do it all in the first place? Just my two cents...
GIJoe wrote: i noticed they give away free licenses for impressario as well, is that one still useful? never tried but i'm curious to know how well current laser and inket printers might be supported (being an sgi user for a few years, i somehow guess: none but prehistoric models :D ).

of course i'll have a look at shotmaker, too.
Works like a charm, it uses ppd, so there are quite a few models that can be used...
From Solaris 10 passwd man:
Quote:
Each password must have PASSLENGTH characters, where PASSLENGTH is defined in /etc/default/passwd and is set to 6.
Setting PASSLENGTH to more than eight characters requires configuring policy.conf(4) with an algorithm that supports greater than eight characters.
Hakimoto wrote:
unixmuseum, great stuff. can you post the relevant policy.conf sections by any chance? Would be good to see if this stuff is commented or not...
Here ya go, straight from /etc/security/policy.conf:

Quote:
#
# Copyright 2004 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved.
# Use is subject to license terms.
#
# /etc/security/policy.conf
#
# security policy configuration for user attributes. see policy.conf(4)
#
#ident "@(#)policy.conf 1.11 04/09/27 SMI"
#
AUTHS_GRANTED=solaris.device.cdrw
PROFS_GRANTED=Basic Solaris User

# crypt(3c) Algorithms Configuration
#
# CRYPT_ALGORITHMS_ALLOW specifies the algorithms that are allowed to
# be used for new passwords. This is enforced only in crypt_gensalt(3c).
#
CRYPT_ALGORITHMS_ALLOW=1,2a,md5

# To deprecate use of the traditional unix algorithm, uncomment below
# and change CRYPT_DEFAULT= to another algorithm. For example,
# CRYPT_DEFAULT=1 for BSD/Linux MD5.
#
#CRYPT_ALGORITHMS_DEPRECATE=__unix__

# The Solaris default is the traditional UNIX algorithm. This is not
# listed in crypt.conf(4) since it is internal to libc. The reserved
# name __unix__ is used to refer to it.
#
CRYPT_DEFAULT=__unix__
#
# These settings determine the default privileges users have. If not set,
# the default privileges are taken from the inherited set.
# There are two different settings; PRIV_DEFAULT determines the default
# set on login; PRIV_LIMIT defines the Limit set on login.
# Individual users can have privileges assigned or taken away through
# user_attr. Privileges can also be assigned to profiles in which case
# the users with those profiles can use those privileges through pfexec(1m).
# For maximum future compatibility, the specifications should
# always include "basic" or "all"; privileges should then be removed using
# the negation. E.g., PRIV_LIMIT=all,!sys_linkdir takes away only the
# sys_linkdir privilege, regardless of future additional privileges.
# Similarly, PRIV_DEFAULT=basic,!file_link_any takes away only the
# file_link_any privilege from the basic privilege set; only that notation
# is immune from a future addition of currently unprivileged operations to
# the basic privilege set.
# NOTE: removing privileges from the the Limit set requires EXTREME care
# as any set-uid root program may suddenly fail because it lacks certain
# privilege(s).
#
#PRIV_DEFAULT=basic
#PRIV_LIMIT=all
#
# LOCK_AFTER_RETRIES specifies the default account locking policy for local
# user accounts (passwd(4)/shadow(4)). The default may be overridden by
# a user's user_attr(4) "lock_after_retries" value.
# YES enables local account locking, NO disables local account locking.
# The default value is NO.
#
#LOCK_AFTER_RETRIES=NO
zahal wrote: Sun Hardware for sale:
1.2GHz USIII Cu modules
SUN PCI III (1.4ghz Athlon)
Where are you located?
Sun Hardware currently in production:

Sun Blade 1000
2x900MHz, 4GB RAM, 2x72GB 10,000RPM, XVR-1000, DVD-ROM, DDS-3 DAT, Adaptec AUA-4000A USB 2.0 PCI card
Connected to this machine are a a Sun Type 7 USB keyboard & mouse, a firewire external Sony CD burner, a USB Zip 250, a USB thumbdrive and a Sun 18" DVI-D LCD screen

Sun Blade 1000
2x900MHz, 4GB RAM, 2x72GB 10,000RPM, Elite 3D m6, CD-ROM
Connected to this machine are a Sun Type 6 USB keyboard & mouse and a Sun 18" 13W3 LCD screen

Sun StorEdge D1000
12x9GB

Sun Hardware for Sale:
Elite 3D m6
Kingston 2GB kit (4x512MB)
Sun 1GB kit (4x256MB)
SunPCI II Pro 733MHz, 128MB RAM
SunPCI II 600MHz, no memory
SunPCI daughter board (serial, VGA, ...)
Sun Type 6 PS/2 country kit (new in box)
4x18GB Sun FC drive, with Sun spud bracket

Sun Hardware Wanted:
2x1.2GHz USIII Cu to put in one of the Blade 1000
SunPCI III
Sun StorEdge Multipack-FC, with or without drives
Sun StorEdge D1000 pedestal
TeeTylerToe wrote: unixmuseum, is that elite3d M6 horizontal, or vertical (horizontal UPA like sbus, or vertical UPA like PCI/AGP?) as I'd like to add that to my ultra 2
It's one that was in one of the Sunblade 1000... It's laying horizontally in the SB1K, but so are the PCI cards too...

Here's what the inside of the SB1K looks like:

sum][one wrote: ... ok I must definetly be asking silly questions... or nobody here uses Linux.

I'll try to figure it out how to remotely login via Xdm...

cheers.
I tried to use Xnest on Sun, and it doesn't work either... It used to work in 256 colors, but nothing goes except Xnesting to my own machine as a different user... If all you want is log into the other machine, you can always run XDCMP chooser off the GDM login window...
robD wrote: Ack! Just my luck!

I buy myself an Octane2, I try and get into techpubs to get a copy of the Octane User Manual.... and it's down :(

Anyone got a copy mirrored anywhere? :D

-Rob
The manuals are installed with IRIX, or can be installed (it is a default install)...
ulenz wrote: Well, guys, let's face it: Irix is out of the game as far as distributed computing is concerned. Rest in peace ! :cry:
Not in my office... Running a 4-way distributed NASTRAN job as we speak :-)
ulenz wrote: What is NASTRAN ?
An engineering application that requires heavy number crunching...
zahal wrote: Yes, they're going to take it home one more time.
HELL NO!
zahal wrote: Any neko-soccer fans out there??
You bet! Ex semi-pro (semi means benchwarmer, ex means old :-) ). Played against Yari back in the days in rival clubs in "espoir" league, when we were young... Obviously he had a career and I didn't... But he doesn't work on cool engineering stuff, there you have it :-)

One thing for sure: USA and Germany are going down... USA probably won't make it to the second round... You can tell because after the big build-up hype of the last four years and the fake FIFA #4 ranking, they realized that their ass is going to get kicked very hard. What's the reaction? The US media is now trashing soccer: King GW sends "warnings about the world cup", TV & Radio are now blasting "soccer fans are racists" BS, portraying swastika-wearers and bananna-throwing degenerates as the typical soccer fan...

I guess things would be very different if Nike had won the WC supply contract (good luck in Germany) and if the US team didn't suck ass. Although they think they're great, just like the Galaxy thought they did great against Real Madrid last year :-D The US "great WC qualification round" has as much value as Germany beating Luxembourg 7:0...

England, France and Italy are looking pretty good... I'm thinking Italy will do it this time, although England seems pretty serious... This is a European WC, none of that Brazil or Argentina nonsense, please! :-D

I know what I'm doing Friday: taking the day off :-D

BTW, here's the TV schedule for the US: http://msn.foxsports.com/name/public/FS ... cheduleENG

Let's pray that we won't have to suffer commercial breaks every 10 minutes!
GeneratriX wrote:
unixmuseum wrote: This is a European WC, none of that Brazil or Argentina nonsense, please!


:? :roll: :twisted:
What? You're part Italian, aren't you? FORZA ITALIA!

BTW Diego, since you love the O2 so much, support my team and get yourself an Arsenal jersey:

Image
Oskar45 wrote: Heh - why waste Friday :D ? Germany-Costa Rica and Poland-Ecuador are hardly exciting...
True, not very exciting besides the fact that it's the opening game, it's a question of principle :-)
Oskar45 wrote: better save your day for another occasion - eg, in the second round we might easily have Brazil-Italy, Germany-England, Argentina-Portugal or France-Spain :!: :D
Yeah, this would be better games for sure, but then again, I have quite a few days of vacation saved for the occasion :-)
Dubhthach wrote: Like most irish people i'll cheer for who ever is playing against england .... :lol:
:-D :-D
July 1, 2006

Dear Valued Customer:

With this letter, SGI is informing customers that the “general availability” period for new Origin® 350 and 3900, Silicon Graphics Fuel® and Silicon Graphics® Tezro®, including Spare Parts for self-maintainers, is ending as of December 29, 2006. All customer purchase orders will need to be received by December 29, 2006, and deliveries completed by March 30, 2007. It is highly recommended that if you have last time purchase needs for these products, please communicate them to your SGI Sales Representative at your earliest convenience and place a purchase order prior to the December 29, 2006 deadline.



https://support.sgi.com/content_request ... index.html
Hey jimmer, any new activity with your groovy CDwriter application?
hamei wrote: It was, originally. Abby something ...
:-D :-D :-D