Miscellaneous Operating Systems/Hardware

any cheap (or free) x11 on windoze?

zahal
Who joined May 27, 2005, 11:43 a.m.
Wrote the following at Oct. 25, 2005, 9:22 a.m...
Hello,
I want to display some x11 stuff from my sun to a windoze box. VNC works fine in most cases, but when GL apps are involved it just won't do. Are there any other free options around (I dont want to spend lots of $$ on Hummingbird).
Thanks
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aurynn
Who joined March 11, 2004, 4:39 p.m.
Wrote the following at Oct. 25, 2005, 10:30 a.m...
there's xdeep/32 , but I don't know how the OpenGL support is. It's freeware.
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zappa
From Tübingen, Germany
Who joined April 9, 2005, 2:42 p.m.
Wrote the following at Oct. 25, 2005, noon..
Or Cygwin/X, of course...
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Satoru
From Italy
Who joined Feb. 23, 2003, 2:07 a.m.
Wrote the following at Oct. 25, 2005, 12:25 p.m...
I was unable to make cygwin/x work for me in remote.
The local xterminal opened fine, but redirecting output from the O2 had no result.

Anyone knows what's the needed black magic?Thanks
Marco/Sat
voidfoo
From Southern CA
Who joined May 17, 2003, 2:01 p.m.
Wrote the following at Oct. 25, 2005, 12:33 p.m...
an 'xhost + O2_IP' in the local x-term? I am not sure about GL apps. but I have always been able to run software packager on my Octane2 via Cygwin/X.
Dubhthach
From Bláth Cliath, Éire
Who joined Oct. 7, 2003, 8:16 a.m.
Wrote the following at Oct. 25, 2005, 12:52 p.m...
zappa wrote: Or Cygwin/X, of course...


Xming as well:
http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming

Unlike Cygwin/X you just install an X-server and don't need any of the cygwin stuff.
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zappa
From Tübingen, Germany
Who joined April 9, 2005, 2:42 p.m.
Wrote the following at Oct. 25, 2005, 12:58 p.m...
Dubhthach wrote: Xming as well:
http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming

Unlike Cygwin/X you just install an X-server and don't need any of the cygwin stuff.


Who'd want to miss that stuff on a windows machine? It's the only thing that makes working with it tolerable :mrgreen:

EDIT: I'm not sure about OpenGL support in it, anyway. Another option might be XWin-32, running in demo mode (a session can last 2 hours, then it mus be restarted)
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Dubhthach
From Bláth Cliath, Éire
Who joined Oct. 7, 2003, 8:16 a.m.
Wrote the following at Oct. 25, 2005, 1:01 p.m...
zappa wrote:
Dubhthach wrote: Xming as well:
http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming

Unlike Cygwin/X you just install an X-server and don't need any of the cygwin stuff.


Who'd want to miss that stuff on a windows machine? It's the only thing that makes working with it tolerable :mrgreen:


True to an extent but it's always nice to have options, as regarding displaying OpenGL on X clients, i came across this on opengl.org might be usefull

http://virtualgl.sourceforge.net/

October 18, 2005 VirtualGL v1.0 is a framework for allowing Unix/Linux OpenGL API applications to be displayed to thin clients. VirtualGL runs on an application server, equipped with 3D accelerator hardware. It intercepts GLX calls made by applications and re-routes OpenGL rendering contexts into Pbuffers on the application server's 3D hardware. VGL monitors calls such as glXSwapBuffers(), glFinish(), etc., to determine when a frame has finished rendering and is ready to be read back and sent to the client display. VirtualGL can be used to provide hardware-accelerated 3D capabilities to VNC, and it can also be used as a higher-performing alternative to remote GLX. Instead of passing vertex and texture data over the network, VirtualGL passes only compressed images over the network, so its performance is not dependent on the amount of data being rendered. It has been tested with a variety of Linux applications and games (32-bit and 64-bit), with more being added all the time.
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lewis
From london
Who joined Nov. 27, 2003, 12:30 p.m.
Wrote the following at Oct. 25, 2005, 1:57 p.m...


:?

So instead of just sending the fairly small vertex and textures data you send at least a 25fps megapixel video stream. Can't see that working terribly well, really...
Satoru
From Italy
Who joined Feb. 23, 2003, 2:07 a.m.
Wrote the following at Oct. 25, 2005, 2:11 p.m...
The thin client only needs a GEthernet and all the rest is done server side :)
I really feel like 100 mbit is not enough for 1280x1024 true color with VNC with standard xapps...

Marco/Sat
yetanother**ixuser
From Flynn's Arcade
Who joined May 21, 2004, 4:47 a.m.
Wrote the following at Oct. 26, 2005, 5:38 a.m...
i always use exceed3D for stuff like this > works perfectly
Satoru
From Italy
Who joined Feb. 23, 2003, 2:07 a.m.
Wrote the following at Oct. 27, 2005, 4:52 a.m...
Wasn't exceed PaidWare?

Marco/Sat
unixmuseum
From Los Angeles, CA
Who joined April 19, 2004, 4:25 p.m.
Wrote the following at Oct. 27, 2005, 7:10 a.m...
Satoru wrote: Wasn't exceed PaidWare?

Marco/Sat
Exceed is a commercial product made by Hummingbird... Exceed is the XServer, Exceed 3D is a module (i.e. more $$$) of Exceed allowing for 3D OGL... It works very well...
GIJoe
From Germany -> UK -> Germany...
Who joined March 29, 2003, 11:44 a.m.
Wrote the following at Oct. 27, 2005, 7:49 a.m...
x-deep32 is a really nice freeware x-server, but it doesn't do open-gl. i found x-win32 to be a good solution for this. it's commercial, though.
pipeline
Who joined Nov. 3, 2005, 10:07 a.m.
Wrote the following at Nov. 9, 2005, 5:34 p.m...
Dubhthach wrote: Xming as well:
http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming

Unlike Cygwin/X you just install an X-server and don't need any of the cygwin stuff.

zappa wrote: EDIT: I'm not sure about OpenGL support in it, anyway. Another option might be XWin-32, running in demo mode (a session can last 2 hours, then it mus be restarted)


XMing does indeed support OpenGL and GLX, but it's a bit buggy.

X-win32 does OpenGL and GLX, and it's reasonably stable, but it's incredibly slow.