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squeen wrote:
I've looked at Radiance a bunch of times, but we are going for hardware accelerated (real-time). Also, I have an obsession for writing my own applications as part of the learning process.

Taken. But does that mean you did alot of Radiance scripting before?

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Since there's nothing in the sample pic which couldn't be done with Radiance, I'd like to learn why you dismissed Radiance for your job.

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dc_v01 wrote:
Oskar45 wrote:
Since there's nothing in the sample pic which couldn't be done with Radiance, I'd like to learn why you dismissed Radiance for your job.
But if you know someone running it at 30fps, that might be interesting to a lot of people.

I myself can't answer that. The best way to find out about it would be to simply post to their mailing list. Greg Ward - the author of Radiance - is a quite helpful guy [I correspond with him occasionally since the first draft of his book], and I'm sure he would be more than willing to answer all concerns in this regard and supply hints for speeding up...

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Only for fun - but a friend of mine keeps claiming that Basic is just a state of mind :D
About 40% of Americans deny evolution. Sad.
While in my PERSONAL OPINION [mind the capitals, will you], it's easier to
port from MipsPro C/CC to gcc/g++ than the other way 'round, I nevertheless
run into situations where I try to port from GNU which keep me stuck for quite
a while. Here is a concrete example. Apparently, something like

ffi_type *atypes[0];

is swalled by gcc/g++ just fine.

However, with MipsPro 7.4.4, I only get an error:

Code: Select all

The constant array dimension size is not a positive integral type.

ffi_type *atypes[0];
^

Any idea for resolving that?
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jan-jaap wrote: Arrays of zero length are a GNU extension: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.3.0 ... ength.html

Usually, arrays of variable length (also GNU) are much more annoying to recode.

Thanks. Actually, I'd thought myself of settting the length to 1 but wasn't sure about it... :?
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Only for the record, I do have separate CDs for the respective versions, as specified below [as I haven't secured any license for Fortran, etc., I'm only listing my C/C++ compiler. However, maintenance releases always contained overlays for each of the MIPSPro 7.4 compiler products]:

MIPSPro C Compiler 7.4: 11/02 [812-0707-004]
MIPSPro C++ Compiler 7:4: 11/02 [812-0400-010]

MIPSPro 7.4.1m: I can't find that CD right now or maybe I'd missed it at all - don't remember which anymore...
MIPSPro 7.4.2m: 03/04 [812-0980-005]
MIPSPro 7.4.3m: 11/04 [812-0980-006]
MIPSPro 7.4.4m: 11/05 [812-0980-007]

Additionally, there was also a separate CD

Compiler Execution Environment 7.4: 11/02 [812-0924-002]

All of the above require IRIX 6.5 or later.

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The links to both XGS and the Apple Emulator Page [they seem to support Unix] on http://www.wbwip.com/a2web/a2emul.html are apparently broken. Anyone knows of another? Any one has successfully tried it under Irix?
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nekonoko wrote: We have KEGS in Nekoware , which is an Apple IIGS emulator. It should work with standard Apple II software as well.

Thanks, will try that. Want to use it with standard Apple II software, indeed.
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As many programs rely for building on features not supported in "normal" make, for quite a few years I now use mostly gmake instead. You can get the source from here http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/make/ . AFAIR, you can compile it without additional stuff - no need to install any nekoware packages. Read the INSTALL [of course, I trust you do have the IRIX make & C/C++ compiler].
Curious: the first recorded successful pregnancy brought forth a murderer...
...anyone tried it already?
If the snake bites before it is charmed, there is no advantage in a charmer.
Servus Martin,

am a bit late to the party. I compiled the source but when I run <./testrun.sh> [with threads = 1], although the tga files are generated ok, I don't see any benchmarking information displayed.

Anyway, for fun I did a <time ./testrun.sh> [with the default sizes/iterations] and get on my Fuel 700Mhz:
Code:
real    0m58.05s
user    0m46.82s
sys     0m0.19s

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My memory faults,
Fuel burnt out,
The kernel enjoys.

BTW, I just recalled that about 30 years ago I'd prefaced a book review with a paraphrase of a Laotse poem in which I'd replaced a 3-letter word by other 3 letters:

When the superior man hears of APL,
he practises it.
When the ordinary man hears of APL,
he ignores it.
When the inferior man hears of APL,
he laughs at it.
If it where not laughed at,
it would not be true APL.

[Of course, you all know what the original 3-letter word is] :-)
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jan-jaap wrote:
Oskar45 wrote: [Of course, you all know what the original 3-letter word is] :-)

GPL :twisted:

If he would have known about it, Lao, in his eternal wisdom, surely would have marvelled at it. Alas, the original word is much more mundane. Just try again... :mrgreen:

PS: Replacing "APL" by "SGI" actually makes some sense as well... :)
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All deamons sleep,
Fuel blinks red,
Another cold vodka.
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ritchan wrote:
wut? catgirls are so yesteryear

Instead of complaining, why don't you just make a better proposal? You never know - it might even convince Neko ;)

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The smilie for the Indigo2 refers to the IMPACT. I happen to have a *purple Indigo2/EXTREME*. While I suspect icons/names are hard-coded, is there any way nevertheless to get the description right when I move the mouse over the icon? Actually, how could I change the default description anyway?

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nekonoko wrote:
Hopefully targeted questions such as "Name the operating system used by SGI's MIPS-based computers" and "What does the "S" in SGI stand for" will be easy for legitimate users (potentially much easier than straining with a hard-to-see text captcha) while obscure enough to discourage the cell phone/shoe/handbag salesmen.

Hmm, don't underestimate these guys - who knows, they might be able to google ;)

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skywriter wrote:
since the new sgi has resurrected two old sgi names to invigorate their product line, which be next?!?!
Resurrecting two old sgi *names* doesn't mean much, or does it? As we all know, currently SGI as such isn't even a zombie - it is simply dead. Period. However, should they come up with new boxes worth once more to be called SGI, I vote for naming them "MAGMA" initially...

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bigD wrote:
^^^^ just looking at that thing makes me want to kick my cat.
Surely, you consider your comment funny, but pray tell me - are you always that cruel? Does your cat know why it got kicked because of your dissatisfaction with this thread, and you are supposingly the master of her world? Maybe you need to get occasionally kicked yourself to understand *her* world properly... ;)

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recondas wrote:
Oskar45 wrote:
I vote for naming them "MAGMA" initially...
You might find DOGMA is a better fit.....
As only the first two letters are different, I see no problem there :D I simply wish we get back genuine SGI boxes *regardless* of how they are named, though...

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recondas wrote:
You must be barrels of fun at a party
I'm... :D

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recondas wrote:
I suspect his cat is named Hyperbole .......
Hmm, this reminds me that quite some time ago I compiled and utilized a piece of software called "Hyperbole". However, as I didn't like it at all, I surely removed it from my box almost immediately... ;)

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skywriter wrote:
Oskar45 wrote:
recondas wrote:
I suspect his cat is named Hyperbole .......
Hmm, this reminds me that quite some time ago I compiled and utilized a piece of software called "Hyperbole". However, as I didn't like it at all, I surely removed it from my box almost immediately... ;)


dude, you are ruining my thread!
Did I? Why? Anyway, no regrets here :D :D :D

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PymbleSoftware wrote:
I put this wiki article together mostly from the hinv section of nekochan...
http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/index.php/ ... stem_names )

Just wanted to check it now but got only
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Anyway, this might have been already noted there but the "Hardware Developer Handbook, Release 2.0" gives "HP1" as processor ID for the Indigo, not IP12 [as per Gerhard's beautiful page] - but maybe it's a typo?

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emgaron wrote:
Oskar45 wrote:
PymbleSoftware wrote:
I put this wiki article together mostly from the hinv section of nekochan...
http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/index.php/ ... stem_names )

Just wanted to check it now but got only
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Yup, that's due to the last ')' missing from the URL when clicking on it in the text. Add a ')' to it in your browser's address line and you'll get there - or try this: http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/index.php/IP_Numbers(Module_and_system_names) . Apparently, URLs with brackets don't quite work without the 'url' tags.

Thanks, it worked. My above comment regarding Indigo's hardware IP seems to be still valid, though...

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@ hamei :!: Curious: as you have discovered A+ - what projects are you working on for which Pascal [Irix or otherwise] might still be better suited?

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hamei wrote:
Either that or rhoenie screwed up, which is like saying God made a mistake ...
Quite interesting, logically. Considerating the current state of our world, that old guy/gal up there most surely blunders on a daily basis. But down here on earth, rhoenie might be better off, perhaps...

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Bill622 wrote:
Hum, but the Fuel looks like a red painted PC to me ;)
Looks might be deceiving occasionally, though :D

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indyman007 wrote:
Well if you think about it, it is just a MIPS PC, not a nice little SGI.
Which reminds me - a couple of years ago ( :D ), the Iris INDIGO was hailed as something like the RISC PC of the '90s. Oh well. I'd one and while I'd laid it off, I'm still thinking of my first (SGI) love from time to time. But times are changing...nowadays I only run a Fuel [and occasionally, an Indigo2] :(

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Anyone one on here still uses it? Actually, at least until 6.5.22, /usr/share/src/OpenGL/toolkits/libglut was provided. It's no longer available with 6.5.30. When was it dropped? I do have all more recent CDs, for sure, but I'm too lazy to check them one-by-one right now .. :)

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PymbleSoftware wrote:
Oskar45 wrote:
Anyone one on here still uses it? Actually, at least until 6.5.22, /usr/share/src/OpenGL/toolkits/libglut was provided. It's no longer available with 6.5.30. When was it dropped? I do have all more recent CDs, for sure, but I'm too lazy to check them one-by-one right now .. :)



I use the nekoware GLUT. Adjust the paths in the makefile for nekoware includes and libraries. Works for me.
Did. No problem there. Still, you didn't answer my question, though.

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hamei wrote:
Creativity shows up in how you do the job.
Pray, detail...

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PymbleSoftware wrote:
eMGee wrote: Pixie as in the RenderMan implementation?


I take it that no one has the IRIX version of BMRT floating around...
I only run version 2.4.0.5, but with the help of the standard textbooks you still might achieve quite impressive results, anyhow ;)
About 40% of Americans deny evolution. Sad.
http://www.magnicomp.com/sysinfo/ is a rather nice tool although the latest version (9) of course :-( doesn't support Irix anymore (version 8 does, though). Anyone on here had tried it before anyway?

BTW, beginning with version 5.1, the source is no longer provided except with a Software Source Code License Agreement. Well, I happen to have the source for version 4.0. Unfortunately, running it after compilation for my Fuel [I'd to fix an error first] doesn't properly produce all intended info - understandibly, as back then the Fuel wasn't yet known at all. Maybe hacking <irix.cf> now would be more successful, but that would certainly violate the license...

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This thread sofar reminds me of the eternal dispute between creationists and evolutistionists...According to statistics, 40+% of the American people believe literally in the story of Noah's Arc. How about you Nekochaners?
About 40% of Americans deny evolution. Sad.
How to you celebrate that day? I myself am going to take out my mother [aged 84] for an extended lunch, present her with a bunch of flowers and a box of chocolate bonbons with black truffles. Unfortunately, about four years ago, my mother was run over by a car and since then she can't walk properly anymore and never will...

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fu wrote: anyone for a drink or two?
Depends...what do you offer?
About 40% of Americans deny evolution. Sad.
fu wrote:
name your poison
Snow Queen v Hendrick's...

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Gray Fox wrote:
I end up cleaning my mom's house, swept and mop the floors, did dishes, and did laundry. Taking a break right now then I'm going back to work cleaning.
"Good boy", says your mother. Oh well - whatever age we are, for our mothers we'll be their kids forever for sure...

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