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skywriter wrote: What IBM are you going to compare with?

FWIW the best bet is almost away the MacPro.

I'm not going to compare any IBM with anything else. No way. If you are old enough, you will certainly know what I mean. But I'm taking your advice and will check out the MacPro for my first Mac ever...thanks!
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indyman007 wrote:
Oskar45 wrote:
indyman007 wrote: I am still using the 2009 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.66 GHz, with a 7200rpm 320gb with 8gb DDR 2.
It is still very much up to the task. I shouldn't think you would need quite as much RAM, but I use dual displays and then a windoze virtual machine.

Sounds good to me. But to what iMac model are you refering to?

Model ID iMac8,1
Model Number A1224

THANKS. I'll check it out asap!
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Check this...
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kshuff wrote: Last night when I entered from behind :shock:
Hope you have recovered from your shock :-) But this pair of birds - balancing delicately in the tree - is simply beautiful. When did you last shoot something like that?
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hamei wrote:
Oskar45 wrote: Check this...

Are you sure they are married ? They have that "nooner quicky" look plastered all over their faces ....
Apparently you have no idea what photographing wild-life is really all about. But, yes, they two are married for life - most humans aren't capable of that at all...Anyway, when did you last got a shot like that?
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josehill wrote: Do you have a flickr stream or something similar where we can see more of your work?

Sorry, I don't have a flickr stream or anything similiar. But I certainly appreciate your acknowledgement of my two pics [you were the only one]. Just to make it clear, neither of them was post-processed with PhotoShop in any way except some cropping. I would be willing to post one or two other pics though, provided there is any interest in them at all...
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R-ten-K wrote:
[...] some people like the products of his company, and they decide Apple gets to be the one who parts them from their hard earned money.
And what alternatives do you recommend?

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Martin Steen wrote:
Oskar45 wrote: Check this...


It's a very nice picture! Whats the name of those birds?

I sometimes do pictures of vermins, because my wife works at a
government institute for crop science:

Martin, thanks. These birds are "secretary birds" [in Deutsch, "Sekretär"], and they belong to the eagles [the Mara is one of the hotspots to see them]. While they roost normally on flat-topped acacias, they have a very fascinating hunting-behaviour unique to birds of prey in Africa [they stand well over 1 meter when on the ground, btw]. I love them...

Kartoffelkäfer: photographing lesser things is normally not regarded as fashionable. How many safari-fixated people are simply eager to just shoot the "Big Five" forgetting that there are also the "Small Five"? Believe me, to get these is quite a bit more complicated. Yes, I've *seen* all of them but in all my years in Africa I wasn't able to get decent photographs of all of them yet -:(
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recondas wrote: [...]peering into their world through the looking glass can be interesting.....
Great shots. Yes, small can be beautiful...how about this mating pair of butterflies [in the spirit of the present thread]?

PS: As moderator, could you perhaps convince Neko to set aside some gallery for such shots? Up to now, you, Martin and myself have posted a few wild-life pics - but surely others want to do it as well...
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R-ten-K wrote:
For pretty much every product apple sells there are alternatives.
Ok, what alternatives would you specifically recommend instead of any MacBook[Pro|Air]? I haven't bought anything yet but the learned opinion of a guru like you is most welcome to help me save money [and later troubles as well].

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recondas wrote:
Oskar45 wrote:
recondas wrote: PS: As moderator, could you perhaps convince Neko to set aside some gallery for such shots? Up to now, you, Martin and myself have posted a few wild-life pics - but surely others want to do it as well...
The occasional wildlife photo in the Everything Else forum is nice, but my humble opinion (humble because I don't bear the expense of the forum or the effort of the behind the scenes maintenance) would be to leave our exposure as just that - occasional.

At a resolution large enough to appreciate their beauty, I wouldn't doubt that just a small portion of the finer examples of just your work could consume gigabytes of storage space. Add in several talented photographers and it quickly becomes expensive in a number of areas, not the least of which would be hardware and administrative labor.

There are other publicly available venues that generate sufficient revenue to support photo-hosting. They probably remain the better choice.

Humbly taken. Will only post occasionally shots anymore...actually, no, never again. I took your advice quite seriously, yes I did...What a pity, some of our members love to enjoy pics of others.
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Don't want to play down DMR in any way - quite to the contrary, without him there wouldn't probably even be Nekochan today. I bow to him for his co-development of Unix. However, regarding his C - sternly opposed to Backus, he did not liberate us from the von Neumann style of programming at all but actually drew us only deeper into that malstrom. Of course, thanks to him, nowadays about 90% or so of source code you can get is in C/C++. But that was never the right thing at all...
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Actually, originally Thompson set out to create a FORTRAN compiler for "First Edition" Unix but then instead created B [with the help of Ritchie; the "Second Edition" Unix kernel was written in it] which was only later developed into C by Ritchie.

Completely OT again [but as Ritchie was not only the creator of C but also the co-developer of Unix maybe admissible]: AFAIK, Microsoft - before they embarked predominately on DOS etc. - actually was some sort of "Unix"-oriented company as well [Xenix]. I find it unfortunate that they withdraw themselves from that opportunity - otherwise, the PC market today could be probably totally *nix and there wouldn't have been any need for Linux [which just fills the niche Microsoft left open]...Ritchie would have been satisfied, I'm sure.
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Lions ended his celebrated 1977 A COMMENTARY ON THE SIXTH EDITION UNIX OPERATING SYSTEM with the following:
Discuss the merits of “C” as a systems programming language. What features are missing? or superfluous?
Not sure these questions have ever been answered conclusively...

PS: I have never found his other notes on the V6 source. Outdated, sure - but most certainly instructive even after 30+ years.
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Oskar45 wrote: PS: I have never found his other notes on the V6 source.
Found the V6 source finally. Would be interested to know how IRIX differs source-wise.
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Of course, any Turing-complete language is theoretically exactly as powerful as any other Turing-complete language and, therefore, could be theoretically used as a general-purpose programming language - although some Turing-complete languages are simply too tedious for anything practical [viz. Unlambda - what a beauty!] Actually, combinatory logic [S, K] itself is sufficient for almost all of here as well...

Anyway, I trust everyone on here is fluent in C/C++ [the current lingua franca of programming?] Now, should you desire to pick up a new programming language - what would it be? I myself am reasonable familiar with Prolog, Common Lisp and APL [AFAIK, the first language which used the fold operator]. I'd like to learn Haskell. How about you?

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R-ten-K wrote:
My brain still thinks better in functional languages, though, so I always end up back to lisp every now and then
Except, of course, that Lisp is *not* a functional language at all. <defun> only creates an instance callable by <funcall> [a procedure]. Procedures are not functions.
R-ten-K wrote:
I have worked with some groups doing research on sketch programing, that I feel may be a future direction for programming languages: provide the input and output definitions, define some constraints and expected behaviors for the algorithm, and let the "compiler" figure out the rest. It is the XXI century...
Automatic program construction techniques are certainly not new to the XXI century.

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PymbleSoftware wrote:
I think gofer, hugs or scheme did compile for IRIX but I've not looked at it in a long time.

R.
Yes, I compiled Hugs and Scheme under Irix with no problems at all.

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skywriter wrote:
a poorly shared language!
WHAT exactly are you referring to?

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PymbleSoftware wrote:
lucky for me its not in Austrian. ;) .

:-) http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=285493#c4542723

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R-ten-K wrote:
Oskar45 wrote:
R-ten-K wrote:
My brain still thinks better in functional languages, though, so I always end up back to lisp every now and then
Except, of course, that Lisp is *not* a functional language at all. <defun> only creates an instance callable by <funcall> [a procedure]. Procedures are not functions.
So what? I can still write code in LISP where I don't have to have assignments, values can be unmodifiable/immutable, etc. Cheers.
Sorry. I'd no intention to chide you in any way. Of course, you're right. I only wanted to counter the wide-spread mischaracterization of Lisp being called a *functional* language. Lisp is no more functional than Perl is...

Actually, there's also the performance myth: low-level languages are more efficient than Lisp. In fact, C is actually at a performance disadvantage to Lisp.

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hamei wrote: Works great in the desert, looks funny as hell chasing foxes in England.
Well, may be not. Check http://www.jacamels.co.uk/
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hamei wrote:
jan-jaap wrote: We use QT where I work now.

But it looks like something designed by kindergarteners for kindergarteners. :D
Well, you have the source. Instead of your usual trolling, just re-write it into something better. Who knows, one or two people might even appreciate it after all :-)
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Any experiencies? Want to buy it as an X-mas gift but am unsure (€ 160.00). I only read books etc. on my iPad.
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bluecode wrote:
I mean do you really want to write GUI apps or a data base engine in brainf**k?
No, but playing with Unlambda is great fun still [I've written interpreters in ML, Haskell and Hope, as well]

bluecode wrote:
Oskar45 wrote:
Anyway, I trust everyone on here is fluent in C/C++ [the current lingua franca of programming?]
Nope and I dispute those languages are the currrent lingua franca of programming unless you are talking about *NIX based computing
I beg to differ. AFAIK, most open source code available today is written in C/C++ [q.v. SourceForge]. With a decent ANSI C compiler you can get it running on quite a few platforms, not just on *NIX based boxes. I gave up programming Windows in the early '80. z/Arch assembler source is rather rare today - I don't think too many care about it anyhow. And Java is junk.

PS: As you are obviously not really friendly with regards to Unix, I sure hope you have the UNIX Barf Bag at hand, now do you?

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PymbleSoftware wrote:
Oskar, you don't have to defend that position - the first page, 3rd post of this topic, there link to current rankings of languages used by some survey. I suggest you gave up Windows Programming in the early 90s when Windows3.1 came out
R.
Thanks, Pymble. But, no, I'd started Windows Programming with 3.0 [although at that time Windows had already existed for a couple of years on the fringe of the DOS world]...

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foetz wrote: although i'm not around that often currently i wanna wish all old and new nekochaners nice and happy holidays and a great start into the new year :D
Servus Goetz. Same to you...
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Frankly, I don't like (auto-)biographies at all. AFAIR, I've never read any before. But recently I'd picked up Isaacson's book nevertheless and I must confess I do enjoy it indeed...

Anyone else on here got into it?

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metallizer wrote:
I was reading this article some other day, very different take on why Steve Jobs died and the concept I had about cancer.

http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2011nl/nov/jobs.htm

<OT> I never considered vegan to be a particularly healthy way to go :-) </OT>

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hamei wrote:
silicium wrote:
Does anybody know APL? I heard once about it from a retired mechanical engineering business owner who used it before the age of graphics CAD.

Funny you should mention that ... I had APL/2 for a while, played with it a little. APL will do graphical CAD, there was a guy who was creating spiral bevel surfaces with APL, must have been about 1990 ? And there is an Irix version of APL also, came from Morgan-Stanley I believe. I have it somewhere if you can't find it. Interesting system. Does it still hold the record for "most undecipherable code ever" ?

Irix binaries for Morgan-Stanley's A+ are available at http://www.aplusdev.org/Download/index.html; the source [compiles nicely] can be downloaded as well.

In the late 1970s I worked for both of the then most important APL providers, I. P. Sharp Sharp APL and STSC APL*PLUS , and at my next working place IBM's APL2 - not APL/2 :-) - was used until the mid-1990s when C was taking over slowly.

BTW, I still have the IBM PC APL2 version running on my HP 200LX - not the fastest thing around, but possibly the smallest APL machine there is :-)

Regarding "most undecipherable code ever" - of course, I'm biased, but I'd much more difficulties with J, though...

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hamei wrote:
Oskar45 wrote:
... at my next working place IBM's APL2 - not APL/2 :-)

The version that ran on OS/2 was called ... wait for it !! drumroll, please ... APL/2. Like most everything else that ran on OS/2 ....
We only used mainframes with APL2; we never used any OS-half stuff...

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skywriter wrote:
just run GnuAPL. it's just as much fun but without the nifty keyboard. I studied it, used it, and like so many other things in life with not practical application, prompty forgot it.


Might not be as unpractical as you think, though: APL is still used today quite a lot indeed. In fact, it is even nowadays accepted at http://www.gsb.stanford.edu/phd/fields/ ... index.html . I certainly would not feel ok if I had to write financial, actuarial or statistical programs in Fortran, Pascal or C, no.

Regarding the "nifty" keyboard. Granted, unless you have a proper APL keyboard, it takes a few minutes to get used to the location of all them funny symbols [it's just a question of your flexibility]. Actually, APL versions exist which utilise keywords instead of symbols [which, in my opinion, destroys the elegance of APL completely], and ASCII transliterations have been devised as well [which are even worse, see J].

BTW, APL influenced the design of a few other languages: 4.2.6 in the original Mathematica book lists some correspondences between APL and Mathematica. And Nial is a cross of APL and LISP [quite a few years ago I'd contributed an Irix port; while not so important, its Reference Manual is the best I've ever come across].

Lastly, back in the '80s, e.g. I wrote, purely in APL, an interface to RAMIS II [the DBMS we then utilised] - you could retrieve data, manipulate them in APL in ways no DBMS will ever provide facilities for, and upload the results afterwards...My staff liked it.

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My current day-to-day watch is simply an Audemars Piquet Royal Oak Offshore Automatic Chronograph Titanium. However, for roughing [e.g., when in South America or Africa], I just wear the Breitling B-1 [BTW, this Professional line quartz watch has nothing in common with the much later mechanical B-01 Chronomat series one - neither model is no longer available, anyway].

Otherwise, I do own an original Porsche Design Titanium [nowadays a collector's item] and a couple of quartz watches [Timex, Citizen and the Seiko "Final Fantasy"] - but I don't wear them at all anymore...
hamei wrote:
ftp.nekoware.de crashes fireflop with an unending series of popup failure messages, have to kill fireflop

se.mirror.nekoware.met never loads, stays "connecting" forever
.....

.de works on the iPad w/ Safari. ".met" => ".net" ?
Gerhard.Lenerz wrote:
The "Lange 1 Perpetual Calendar" , a mechanical timepiece which features an eternal calendar taking into account leap years, different length of months and such.

Sounds great, right? I forgot to mention the pricetag, though. It's about 250.000 EUR or 325.000 US$ (as of today).

Lange's are notoriously expensive. Wouldn't want to wear them on a day-to-day basis, anyway.
PymbleSoftware wrote:
hamei wrote:
Can you get there from Australia ? Our connections here behind the bamboo wall are often crappy.

He wouldn't know... They have no kangaroos in Austria, but you can go ice skating in Mozart Platz in Winter.
Just don't mention the war or the econmoics of the Weimar Republic (eg the book "When money dies" ).
R.

Haha, I won - was quite sure you would comment! But you're right - while we aren't behind the bamboo wall, we don't have kangaroos. On the other hand, you are wrong, though - no ice skating on "Mozartplatz" anymore [but ice skating still is possible on "Heumarkt" or "Rathausplatz"]. However, I don't want to comment on the war or Weimar - politics is not allowed on here...
Hmm, sources for several versions are available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/pixie/files/pixie/ . But I've no idea about whether one of them compiles properly...

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@hamei: might not be the solution, but I'd try to do a grep over /usr/include [and subdirs] to see whether uint32_t is defined somewhere else as well. Sorry, can't check that now as I don't have access to my boxes.

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@hamei: sorry for bothering you again. Can you try once more but replace <uint32_t i;> by <unsigned long int i;>? Thanks.

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@hamei: Actually, to get over the first three errors is trivial as uint32_t is simply a synonym. Try to do c99 instead of cc.

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