The collected works of 0ctane

I have been having a similar problem hooking my Indigo2 up to a 17" dell monitor. I get sleep light on the monitor that will occasionally alternate with the green power-on light. I am using a 13w3-HD15 adapter also. Where did you get your adapter from? I wonder if we had the same supplier. Mine was supposed to be compatible.
Many thanks to nekonoko for the serial port explanation. I need to grab a Din-8 to DB-9 from work now. Hopefully that will solve my problems of logging in currently.
I too am not looking forward to my wife's reaction when I get a new monitor.
I was able to compile mplayer-1.0pre1. It currently can run various mpeg, ogm, and avi files (as long as the audio codec is opensource). I am looking for 1) someone to tell me how to make a tardist of it, and 2) anyone willing to test it out with more media files.
You can find out more information about my progress building it here:
"-vo sdl -ao esd seems to be able to play the Evangelion comedy fine on a 300MHz Octane with ESI graphics (as long as nothing else is running)". I also got a AC3 DIVX encoded file to play, although the sound was off on my 195MHz octane at home. :shock:
Anyhow, currently only SDL provides the correct colormap so you will need that installed. In addition, ESD provides the best audio so you will need that also. Any bleeding-edge takers?
<edit> you will need SDL, aalib, auiofile, esound, expat, freetype, gettext, libjpeg, libogg, libpng, libvorbis, libz, nas, tcp_wrappers. I know some features (ASCI rendering) are not necessary, but I wanted to make it as full featured as possible.
Thanks squeen, I will try to get it put together.
I have shoutcast streaming audio working also. I am listening to RadioParadise right now. I got mozilla to run the steam, so the only way to stop it AFAIK is a kill. :twisted:
Squeen, here is the prereq list by running the comands you mentioned. Is this appropriate and/or reasonable? I am not sure why ViewKit, java, and compiler are necessary.
prereq (
fw_libvorbis.sw.lib  1278554320 maxint
fw_libvorbis.sw.libvorbis  1278554320 maxint
fw_libogg.sw.lib     1278554220 maxint
fw_libogg.sw.libogg  1278554220  maxint
fw_libz.sw.lib       1278119120  maxint
fw_libjpeg.sw.lib    1235274920  maxint
fw_libjpeg.sw.libjpeg  1235274920  maxint
fw_freetype2.sw.lib  1278985320 maxint
ViewKit_eoe.sw.base  1278786820 maxint
dmedia_eoe.sw.base   1278786820 maxint
eoe.sw.base          1288786920 maxint
java2v131_02_eoe.sw.base  1278277810 maxint
java_eoe.sw.base     1275311810 maxint
sgitcl_eoe.sw.base   1232792120 maxint
fw_aalib.sw.lib      1278987220 maxint
eoe.sw.gfx           1288786920 maxint
x_eoe.sw.eoe         1288786920 maxint
fw_SDL.sw.lib        1278982920 maxint
fw_esound.sw.lib     1278325520 maxint
fw_audiofile.sw.lib  1278119520 maxint
compiler_eoe.sw.lib  1278628210 maxint  1278786820 maxint
fw_gettext.sw.lib    1278985220 maxint
fw_nas.sw.lib        1277898020 maxint

I pulled out eoe.sw.gfx, eoe.sw.base, and x_eoe.sw.eoe so that it would install on another machine. My videos play fine, but mplayer is not able to find esd. I get the message:
/bin/sh: esd:  not found
AO: [esd] esd_open_sound failed: No such file or directory
Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.

I have the freeware esd installed (and it is the same version as my build machine). Hmmm.... I don't think it is related to the prereqs I removed.
Yes, mplayer has native IRIX audio output, and mplayer is not using esd by default. I have run with "-ao sgi" and mplayer reports that the sgi audio driver is being used. I will try a compile without esd for testing purposes.
The most preferable is to have a look at the alintro. ... ALternatively, you could make an allegro driver, since allegro should jave good irix sound support.

Thanks for the info, lisp. When I have a minute I will look into your suggestions. I am not familiar with allegro, so i'll get to learn something new. :)
vegac wrote: Octanes on the other hand, a 300mhz R12k can be gotten for about 400-500 (and this from resellers) so I don't know if the price and work involved would really end up saving you much...just on a time-basis (though I may be wrong here, if it IS just a few resistors to de-solder/re-solder and swapping out a chip that's under $200...)

Is this a question of saving money, or just having the talent to make the mod? Sure you can buy an Octane R12K CPU module and just plug it in. But what about finding a cheaper R12K module from some other computer (O2, Origin, Onyx) and modding it for an Octane (of course I doubt 2/3 of those options are cheaper). Is it possible to buy a R12k CPU by itself?
chicago-joe wrote: In lots of 45, the R12K-300 chips are $110 each, if the upgrade goes well and there is enough interest, I might try and organize a "group buy" of the remaining chips (I bought 5 and there are 45 left) so that everone can get a better deal.

I was trying to point out that most people do not mod computers to save money, but rather for the joy of modding. Anyhow, count me in on one of the R12k chips if you manage an Octane upgrade.
chicago-joe wrote: Octane Wrote
I was trying to point out that most people do not mod computers to save money, but rather for the joy of modding.

Sorry, that was my bad attempt at making a joke. That was my point exactly, I did it for the challenge (and for a faster machine).

No problem. Sometimes jokes are misinterpreted in text, even if we use the same language.
warerat wrote: I disassembled the R10K module on my Octane and it indeed has the surface array with the socket as you mentioned.

Any special tricks for disassembling the Octane CPU?
chicago-joe wrote: The R12K 400MHz chips are about $165 - $185 each and are easily available (they were also made by NEC).

How available are the 300MHz chips? Where did you find the R12ks?
Interesting idea. I imagine you could also achieve something similar with an Octane that has the Personal Video Option. But, like you mentioned, there would be some coding involved.
Yeah, thanks for building rss for us. I have been looking around for more screensavers. Like some other people, I am having issues with a few savers. (Octane SI+TRAM). SolarWinds draws the black box around the glow/star image, so instead of nice gradients I get overlapping boxes. Oh, well. I am just happy to have flocks and field lines. :D
I must join the congratulations. I spent a lot of time hacking at mplayer myself, but I never got opengl output working. Good job!
okay, i got a little too excited. -vo gl2 -vf format=RGB24 is not working for me for the "classic evangelion comedy", although it works fine for an *.ogm file I have. Unfortunately, my system (195MHz Octane SI+T) is still too slow to play much of anything without -nosound. Oh, well.
Timo, can you post the configure options you used? I have an *.avi file here that I can play with my compiled player:

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Opening audio decoder: [liba52] AC3 decoding with liba52
No accelerated IMDCT transform found
AC3: 5.1 (3f+2r+lfe)  48000 Hz  384.0 kbit/s
No accelerated resampler found
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, 16 bit (0x20), ratio: 48000->192000 (384.0 kbit)
Selected audio codec: [a52] afm:liba52 (AC3-liba52)

but dies with yours:

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Opening audio decoder: [liba52] AC3 decoding with liba52
No accelerated IMDCT transform found
AC3: 5.1 (3f+2r+lfe)  48000 Hz  384.0 kbit/s

MPlayer interrupted by signal 10 in module: init_audio_codec
- MPlayer crashed. This shouldn't happen.
It can be a bug in the MPlayer code _or_ in your drivers _or_ in your
gcc version. If you think it's MPlayer's fault, please read
DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports.html and follow the instructions there. We can't and
won't help unless you provide this information when reporting a possible bug.

Maybe just send me a message so we don't clog this thread.
schleusel wrote: Do you have an urgent need for software AC3 decoding? Otherwise i'll try to get a few other things working too before I update the package..

thanks for the feedback,

No rush. AC3 would just make the program a little more complete. The offending video I have seen numerous times anyhow. I think you have done such a great job so far that we can wait a little while. Anticipation can be fun.
BTW, when did Sorenson Video 3 break? I got it working during the pre2 and have that build sitting around. Also, on the mailinglist a while back someone was working with the Octane digital audio I/O. Any thoughts on getting that working? I don't ever use my Octane's digital I/O, but it might be an interesting feature. :)
Yup, I am forced to plead with them also. Crossing my fingers. Did you have any luck rezonate ?
Slide wrote:
I just received email from Melissa Schumann, SGI Global Developer Program Manager, confirming that my account has been authorized for IRIX maintenance stream access through supportfolio.
Great timing for you. I hope I will not have to wait two weeks. :(
Three?! Now that would be awesome. I wonder if three SI cards would work.
BTW, can you mix SE and SI cards?
So, does anyone anyone know of applications made for dual display? I just made a SI/SE mixed system and want to test it. Also, can one "span" monitors rather than have individual displays?
Let us know how it goes. I played with BeOS back in 1998 on a 601 PowerComputing PowerMac. Apple does it again with a stunningly large new LCD display. 2560 x 1600 pixels. And they got rid of the Apple Display Connector. Digital DVI all the way. Woohoo! :D Of course, the video card required will not be available until August.
themacosxflies wrote: You mean to get the 30" to use it with the G5 and the nVidia card, right?, it won´t work with another config.

Well, I imagine that these "special" graphics cards will eventually be made for PC users also.
could those two models work with a SGI workstation?
Well, if you know of a SGI workstation that can accept DVI, then sure it should work. The Visual Workstations should have no problem. As for a MIPS based system.....

BTW, that philips monitor link does not work.
wolflord wrote: From what I've seen and heard, the "special" card is just going to be a Quadro with dual dvi outputs. Something along what IBM did with it's ultra high-res 21" flat panel(it used 4 inputs from two matrox G450s).
Yeah, I have heard of these before. The 30" literature still says that you will be able to use two monitors with this card still. Maybe the card just pumps out more data faster than other cards? Just guessing here.
but Apple site says the 30" display will work only with the G5 with that nVidia card, while 20" and 23" displays will work also with PCs
If you look closely (using the Store to buy) it looks like the highend ATI card will also be able to drive the 30" monitor.
amigo wrote: I am in the process of connecting Apple Cinema Display 23" with the Octane2 (VPro V6).

Wow. Let me say that I thought I was cool putting two 15" apple ADC displays on my linux box.
But it's not all peachy since ACD only works in native 1920x1200 resolution so you cannot see the Octane2 boot process until it reaches the login screen (X running).

I guess that would be a problem for getting to the maintenance menu, huh? Definitely keep us posted.
themacosxflies wrote: So you see the 30" display as a solid option
Well, I would probably do two 20" cinema displays rather than a single 30", but that is just me. :D
The dual head options with the newer V6/8/12 graphics are limited. I think SGI specifically built a graphics option that occupies all the XIO slots for dual head. With the old boards, you can have:
or the eqivalent with SE/SSE/MXE boards. Also, you can mix the SE and SI series.
DaemonDraxx wrote: Speaking of compatible with X86, I'm in need of a handy KVM switch right now. It would be quite nice to have now that I've linked two machines together. Would that switch also work with an Irix-based box? I've seen these boxes before, and it just seemed to catch my interest lately. :)
I have a cheap Belkin 2-port KVM switch. Works just fine with my Octane and Linux x86 boxes.
DaemonDraxx wrote: I'm just wondering if the VGA cable would work. It sounds to me like there are several incompatibilites with standard age hardware that just shouldn't be there. One of which happens to require some kind of outdated monitor.
What is the list of X86 stuff that's compatible with an Irix box? Like a PS2 Keyboard...mouse...Serial devices...hard disks....everything. o.O'

Well, you would need a 13W3 to HD15 video cable adapter on the octane. They run about $20 on ebay, and you have to make sure it is for SGIs and not Sun computers. Alternately, there are a few hacks floating around to get video working. Next, your monitor needs to have Sync On Green (SOG) capability. There are a few threads on Nekochan discussing this along with compatible monitors. I use a 18" Sony flat panel monitor.
Hard disks: hot swapable SCSI-3 with 80 pin SCA.
I use a SGI keyboard and mouse, so I do not know if others are compatible. Search the forums.
Fantastic job Mare. I once tried to get triplehead running without success. Of course, now that you have shown us all how to do it, I do not have access to the necessary extra graphics heads. :( Oh, well. Congrats!
Or you can just search for "sgi octane" on ebay and get a dual 350MHz right now on ebay:
Of course, who knows how long that will last. :wink: I imagine it is hard for computer resellers to compete with ebay. Although, I suppose it would be easier to return if you don't like it.
hamei wrote: Ya know, paper is usually taller than wide ... I wonder how we got into the habit of working on monitors that are the opposite ?
Probably since our eyes are horizontally spaced. And probably since monitors evolved out of TV sets. Just my guesses.
Background: I have a 250MHz Octane w/1GB RAM and SI+TRAM graphics. I have been successfully using a Sony SDM-S81R monitor via a 13w3->hd9 adapter obtained at deepspacecables.
Problem: I am donating this computer to work (academic research) and we purchased a Sony SDM-S93 for it. While the S93 (and S81R) specs list sync on green, I cannot get a video signal on the S93. Communication is attempted since the monitor does not go to sleep. Rather, a OSD every few seconds flashes to say that no signal is present. Eventaully a message appears saying "Out of scan range 7.8kHz/30Hz" ... obviously too low in both horizontal and vertical scans. So I tested out other setmon profiles:
    1280x1024_60 7.8/30
    1280x1024_60_2f 7.8/30
    1280x1024_60_32db 7.8/60
    1280x1024_60_2f_32db 7.8/60
    1280x1024_72 7.8/36
The double buffer profiles moved the vertical scan rate into something appropriate, but horizontal is still stuck at ~12x too low.
Solution: Well, this is hopefully where someone helps me out. On other threads I have seen mention of ripping out pins in the 13w3 adapter. Would this harm the use of the "known good" S81R (as I might have to swap monitors)? What about making a new /usr/gfx/ucode/MGRAS/vof profile? Those *.sdb files need to be compiled somehow, right?
I thought the -sn flag would not work on Octane-Impact graphics, but I have not yet tried it out. Okay, I tried "setmon -x -sn 1280x1024_60_32db" but still no luck. Out of Sync 7kHz/60Hz as before.
The S93 monitor is least on a PC.
I did a lot of searching through man pages. It seems as though /var/X11/Xvc/moninfo and chantab might be the keys to solving this. However, the format of these files (although text) are a little perplexing. Moninfo holds monitor information, including syncs and page blanking. However, most of the examples are CRTs and the sync values are strange IMHO. Oh, well... I guess I will swap out this monitor for a known good one.
I have two, I think they are 2 and 4 GB with sleds. My indigo2 died a horrible death. I also have video cards for it, but have no idea if they work or not now.
Hakimoto wrote: yeah, gentoo can be a pain to set up, but once it's done it's real sweet. I only ever used Debian and Gentoo. I like the idea of a fully optimised system, that's why these days I always go the gentoo way.
Yeah, I am a gentoo user also. My bro got me hooked while I still had an old Pentium III ... need those optimizations to get it running swiftly. I have noticed, however, that there is a big anti-gentoo following "out there". Oh, well. At least it seems friendly around here.
It has been a while since I posted around here. Anyhow...
Eternal Lands is a free MMORPG that has been around for a few years. My brother got me addicted to the game on a PC. So that I could play it at my Mac-only work environment, I ported the client to OS X. While I have many OS X specific bugs to fix still, I have released the client for testing. If you are interested in giving the game a try, you can get the PC and Linux clients from the link above, or my Mac client from here .