The collected works of skywriter - Page 8

blender has a huge learning curve that the developers have a 'cult of denial' in place to prevent the smallest possibility that it will ever change for the better. to their credit; the UI, once mastered, compensates the toiler with increased productivity. assuming that is a benefit, then blender can be worth learning.

I once learned enough blender commands to feel somewhat self congratulatory at one point. but it's the kind of feeling one gets on having arrived at the first of many one peaks one encounters climbing any mountain worth noting.

if you have anything approaching a professional interest in 3d animation et. al. then footing the bill for an investment in professional software should not be an obstacle. i don't believe there is a great enough number of homeless 3d animators out there that the cost of suitable software should be more than a superficial argument.

as always, you get what you pay for, and in the case of blender you get a lot for the initial outlay, but it will more than make itself a burden with the cost of learning this quirky and much loved program.

if you're just noodling around, which a vast number of interested people certainly are doing, then give it as much time as you think worthy. however, quit while you're ahead. don't bow to the peer pressure of 'zero cost bigots' . and insist on recognizing the opportunity costs of time invested in even the cheapest of alternatives.

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skywriter wrote:
blender has a huge learning curve that the developers have a 'cult of denial' in place to prevent the smallest possibility that it will ever change for the better.


They do seem to be making some strides in that direction recently; the interface has been re-factored quite a bit in the new alphas:


so, i looked at 2.5 (on windows), and honestly it didn't seem to be anything more than just another rearrangement of "buttons panels", to use the technical term. maybe that's considered progressive these days.

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Let's not forget to light the bonfires tonight, too. I'm a little nervous about what the other worlds think of us these days ...


janitors are a forgiving lot!

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Just curious.


the age of the platform is irrelevant, that fact that you can get modern software for it is.

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i can't believe you passed up the 'detective lab kit'!

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Yeah. Modern software. I feel so deprived having to run this lousy outdated Irix stuff ... Oh, wait ! I don't have to ! For a buck I can get any piece of software made -- but it's not worth the trouble to take it off the shelf because it's crap !

(I'm not entirely kidding. I have boxes full of this garbage that's not even worth the trouble to install. It's like buying an Andy Warhol poster of a soup can. Get it home, stick it on the wall, then what ? Whoopee. Junk, junk, more junk. )


i don't disagree! however, the real problem (as if!) is that standards that pervade the web, and content world are are moving targets. software that doesn't move with the 'progress' (tinkering is you ask me, mental masturbation turned loose on the world. all these would-be programmers making changes for changes sake) be comes 'obsolete'. it it better, but at what?

could a janitor do better?

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Bah, those Detective Lab Kits are only good for making crystal meth in your bedroom.


at least at the end of the day you would have something to show for your investment. *snark*

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Bah, those Detective Lab Kits are only good for making crystal meth in your bedroom.

at least at the end of the day you would have something to show for your investment. *snark*

I was gonna say ... pentium, have you thought about making the transition from quantity to quality ?

I think he likes the idea of hoarding...


o' the seductive hunt for ever more precious preciousness!

nothing good comes from hoarding.

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Kermit!


DECNET!

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pilot345 wrote:
Isn't it every nekochanners dream that IRIX will somehow be placed back into an arena of continued development and love?


no, not really. whatever came together to produce what we enjoy is gone. to attempt a reanimation would be to birth some Frankenstein melding of open source, web apps, and cloud bull into the world.

the era of unix differentiation and excellent is gone. it's a 'crappy os' eat 'crappy os' running on x86 world now.

you can't go back.

boy do i miss the old minicomputer days of the 70's/80's

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I'm still surprised that there is no good CAD program for Linux. In fact, there's not even any potential projects working on it. There's a few goofy pretenders but nothing solid. Nothing except Blender in the animation type software, either, is there ? Any ideas why that would be ?


simply because writing a large software system requires more the efforts of a few monothematic open source hackers. it requires organization, and orchestration beyond the abilities of random aggregations of rogue programmers. its requires the repeated inspiration of a well organized, level headed, sustained effort of more than a 'couple of guys'. it's work, it's hard, and it takes years, more than most people take to grow out of the desire to waste your efforts on thankless toiling.

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Right, I understand they are the same ones used for Crimsons?

yes all power series/4d/crimson chassis use this drive sled. i used to have tons of them for a couple of 4d/380's stuffed with disk shelves.

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that is the ugliest damn logo i ever saw. poor DEC what happened to you...

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I think he was generally only "semi-official" and early to mid '90s birthdate, so the age and the fact that the full weight of the marketing department wasn't behind him explains a bit of the FOSS logo look.


having been in the middle of it up until '96, my observation at the time was it was going downhill, the economy was cutting into DEC quite hard, and we were divided by 36 bit, and 32 bit loyalties. making the jump from one family to the other was difficult for everyone. toward the end the trajectory of development was pretty obvious; crank out a VAX on a chip for cost, and build a super-VAX to compete IBM"s 3080 and 3090 Mainframes. i jumped ship to work on 3rd party plug compatibles for both companies as well as HP, Apollo, Prime, and Wang to name a few. from that perspective the love of DEC, TOPS-20, and VMS was just that; love. there really was nothing intrinsically awesome about any of them from the inside. once you reverse engineered their products it was really all the same stuff inside. the only thing that stuck out was that DEC products were easier to reverse engineer. whether that was because i was most familiar with DEC, or that the engineering principles were much more obvious than other companies *shrug*. i love them none the less now, but from the perspective that it's just my personal bias at work. which certainly must apply to everyone one else as well judging from 30+ year of experience in R&D.

the best logo is the simple one. this thing isn't a logo, it's a mess a beginner would come up with.

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i haven't finished the video yet because of my 4th of july party, but the first have about the WWII radar was very interesting. i haven't heard the 'whole thing' before. i didn't know how pervasive, and strategic radar technology was. i had the impression it was a novelty that was just starting to get deployed. to see the level of implementation was personally astounding.

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We're just migrating from 2003 to 2008. It isn't easy these days with global business.
Late last year IT pushed out a 2000 to XP upgrade. Still need IE6.0 though!

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great expressions :)

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MicroVAXen.


Glaaaaahh!

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actually the correct term is:udgy, wudgy, pudgy VAX. Anyway this is what engineering used to say. but marketing had it's way.

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bri3d wrote:
Proprietary video drivers win again!


Fixed!

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I agree, if you really want a memorable experience ditch the camera except for singularly important photos. I only took a few pictures while in japan as well. Best thing i did!
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smj wrote:
MicroVAXen


blah

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my recollection is that on IRIX 8 threads was the max. i also thought some attempt was made to address this. 8 came from some dependence on another package that was limited to 8. perhaps you need some updating, or a better answer :)
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maybe it was python had the 8 threads on IRIX as the problem?
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hamei wrote:
It may be there but last time I looked, there was nothing inside. rhoenie has left the building :(


he shows up on irc occasionally i'll ask him. i have a bunch of the old stuff from 5.3. i'm saving it for the SkyWriter. some of it has no licensing issues, but i can't remember to list off the top of my head. i don't know why you would want to run anything less than your machine is capable of. simply a waste of time and effort you could spend else where to great advantage.

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i don't know why you would want to run anything less than your machine is capable of..

I got mxaudio for 5.3 there and it works S-U-P-E-R !! on 6.5.30. Great mp3 player. There were some other small programs there that were really handy, too.


a w e s o m e !

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have fun!
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at least you're not on IRC. sheesh, in Japan, and you want to waste your time gabbing on IRC?!
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techgrrl wrote: I had a great time in Japan, my ex prolly has a different view - he rarely saw me :) just the way I liked it! LOL!


Excellent use of italics!
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Scratch and sniff cpu cards. You think nobody will figure out the gimmick and sell the cards cheap from china? Everyone makes a dumb mistake the first time out, so tis only a matter of time, unless the upgrades are poor value.
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ritchan wrote: And skywriter, I have no clue what you're talking about. Slot 1 to Socket 370 converters?



the upgrade requires three things:
1) a CPU to upgrade
2) a number on a card that can be used on any CPU from number 1
3) some 'data' of some sort that is transferred between Intel and the CPU through the consumers hands.

anytime you have 2 and 3 there is the possibility of perpetrating fraud. it highly unlikely that intel has unique data other than a serial number of the cpu. it is only a matter of time, if the price is right, that this system breaks down. since it is the first time out for intel, it's quite likely there is a simple loophole they missed in the implementation.

now if these were high end cpu's to begin with...

@ritchan ,why do you mention sockets?
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bigD wrote: This practice bothers me, although I realize the benefits, and understand that logically it makes sense.

With software, there's the idea that I don't really own it - I simply paid for the license to use it. With hardware it's different. I own it. If I want to hack it, modify it, set it on fire - whatever - it's my prerogative because it's mine . And it's this (irrational, I'll admit) feeling that gets offended by what Intel is doing.

But whatever. It's not like I'm going to start buying AMD because of it. :)


it is still yours, you can smash it, etc... all you like.

In this case you just haven't figured out how to make the machine do something worthwhile on your own, which is programming. So, intel will rent you a sequence of operations, and access to arbitrary data that can help you in a specific way. it's no different.

so, if you really think you own all the ability to stimulate a piece of hardwares total possible state transitions, go for it. get that cpu upgrade. but, if you're not smart enough to do it, or lack the resources, intel to the rescue!


or better yet, wait or those smart chinese guys to do it for you.
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kshuff wrote:
skywriter wrote: or better yet, wait or those smart chinese guys to do it for you.


Your just trying to wake hamei up, aren't you ;)


i wish i could. but that ship has sailed :(
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the airport in saint peterburg is horri-bibble. otherwise i would visit my employee's there :(
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THERE GOES A NARWHAL!!!
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we have three, all 3G. there is no leverageable WiFi in our area.

one bug i've noticed is that you can't scroll message entry windows for posting to forums. make for short reply's.
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mapesdhs wrote: > interesting bit of wild speculation. got anything to back it up?

Maybe you read different articles. Seems pretty obvious to me. The whole TRIM issue is a typical example.



Ian, block oriented devices such as HDD and SSD don't interpret file system constructs stored on them. if they did, they would be able to tell if a block or page, extent or range of storage had been de-referenced, or deleted, and thus the storage may have a different context. in the case of SSD where blocks have to be erased before they can be re-written, the device has to treat all blocks as containing data, as the meta-data detailing which blocks have been written, or deleted is contained in the file system, which is not interpretable by the block device. since all blocks therefore contain data, the erase, or pre-erase operation has to be worse case, by treating all block as used. clearly, if the block device had information about which blocks are being used at any one time, it would make more optimal choices about which blocks can be erased, since it could use the least populated blocks.

a TRIM command allows an operating system to inform a solid-state drive which blocks of data are no longer considered in use and can be wiped internally.


the TRIM command is the mechanism that allows the file system / device combination to transcend interpretation of the file system meta data to identify which blocks are not being used.

Ian, in all that where does Windows have an advantage?
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two things:
1) enterprise SSD's keep as much at 1/3 flash capacity for pre-erase buffer to keep up with performance. you can buy FC and SAS/SATA drives in the several hundred GB range that keep up with wrire speed in bandwidth, sub millisecond response times, and as much as 30K IOPS (Read). SCSI SSD are likely to be well engineered too. the little PCI-E ones are dinky.
2) XFS IO traffic has a lot of 4K IO for data, and small 512byte data for meta data. there are small writes for logging as well. i don't remember the numbers off the top of my head, but it can still be substantial. we just put a fix in for XFS in linux fragmenting large IO's up into smaller ones. what a hack it's become.

the internal architecture of the drive has a heavy influence on the read vs. write performance. multiple flash channels allow you to keep a high random IO as long as there are no writes. once a write occurs, it picks a channel that will now be busy for 3ms during an erase cycle. your read could be stuck behind that erase, and that channel can't be used for anything else. the little cheap ones only have a couple of channels, you're unlikely to see this effect.

the IO working set of heavy DB application can be several hundred GB easy, that couple of GB write buffer will only cut the very small top of your IO skew. i've seen applications with several TB of working sets over a few short hours. in mainframe it's much worse.
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mila wrote: Your point 1, if the SSD does not know the FS(most dont) how can it make use of the "spare" capacity?


say you buy a 146GB capacity EFD, the actual amount of flash to 200GB. the extra 54GB is use as a pre-erase pool. this way you don't have to wait around for ~3ms while a block is erase, and the old data (that doesn't change in the block, and the new data (that you're over writing in the block) are assembled into the new block and written. you can just go to the read/write part. in the back ground the extra 54GB is being pre-erased as much as possible. however, if you were to do 100% writes you would eventually us up the pre-erase pool, and performance would drop. another background task is wear leveling which simply attempts to keep the the block evenly utilized for erase/writes.

the file system still only thinks it gets 146GB of space. more of them commodity drives only maintain a couple of pre-erase blocks used to wear leveling and erase/writes so the discrepancy isn't obvious.
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Pontus wrote: The nineties videos was the bomb :D A cheesier decade is hard to find.


there was no music during the 90's.
so, it had to be the 80's.
but the 80's had no music either.
so, it had to be the 70's.
but disco isn't music.
so, it had to be the 60's.
unfortunately, in the 60's they were on so many drugs they forgot to turn the video equipment on.

so, it was the 50's.
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