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The USIIIi you have is almost as fast as it gets if your app is not multithreaded, a 1.6GHz is the fastest but the difference from your 1.3 is not that big.

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Hardware designer, PCB and FPGA is what I have done for the past hmm 25 year gosh its almost over ;)
ofcourse only on Unix(Solaris and lately alot Linux), no VAX/VMS the first 5 years :)
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skywriter wrote: I always found the web to be a pointless distraction to enjoying an SGI with IRIX.


Must really agree on that, I did not get my Indigo to just surf on that I can do a a Solaris box BUT it is however nice to be able to surf from a IRIX box.

But if we take the latest browser or any software and manage to port it I doubt that any IRIX box can handle the load, the old MIPS boxes are to slow, I know how my Sparc boxes are running firefox and the gnome crap and they are 1.6GHz machines with pretty good graphics.

Receiving H264 or similar on a IRIX will that really work or do we need a coprocessor also?
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I am using handbrake for ripping and then we have Apple TVs to all TVs, a iMac is serving them from a Solaris box.
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very cool design and massive PCB's, I can imagine the work behind them in the lab.

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The last 25+ years as hardware designer in the embedded world, system design, schematic and FPGA design.
Avoided MS pretty well much thanks to Ericsson. VMS, Sun and now lately Linux for some tools.

And Emacs ofcourse on all platforms :)

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Is the 13W3 adapter a Sun compatible adapter?

Also, does the machine work, have you connected it to the serial port?(remember to unplug the keyboard before PON)

What graphic adapter is it?

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Hello.

What is the best way to install nekoware solving dependencies?

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alexott wrote:
I suggest to sign petition on freeing IRIX Interactive Desktop: http://www.change.org/petitions/silicon ... ve-desktop ;) .

Done :)

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diegel wrote:
mila wrote:
What is the best way to install nekoware solving dependencies
I don't know whats the best way, but this is the way I do it:
Code:
cd neko_current
mkdir dist
cd dist
for i in ../*
do
tar -xvf $i
done
inst
from .
keep *
i neko_whateveryouwant
conflicts

Hi, but does that solve/install dependencies?
I mean, the "libs" should be installed first or?

Michael

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diegel wrote:
mila wrote:
Hi, but does that solve/install dependencies?
I mean, the "libs" should be installed first or?
No, you can install your package and all dependencies at once. I have all nekoware packages in neko_current and all extracted tardists in the dist directory. In normal cases you have one conflict, with all missing dependencies. Since you have all the dependencies in your install distribution, you can resolve them at once. It may be possible that you have to resolve additional dependencies with beta packages. In this case I do the same in an extra directory for beta packages.

okej, but when I do "i neko_emacs" and "go" and after install I do "ldd" on emacs I miss jpeg libs, and same goes for firefox and more!

Can I "force" install of all in "dist"?

Michael

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diegel wrote:
mila wrote:
okej, but when I do "i neko_emacs" and "go" and after install I do "ldd" on emacs I miss jpeg libs, and same goes for firefox and more!
Try "conflicts" before "go".
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Can I "force" install of all in "dist"?
Yes you can "i *" and you can ignore the dependencies with "set rulesoverride on", but you should do this only if you know exactly what you are doing.

Edit: I just read your first part again: Probably there went something wrong before or some system libraries are missing. Can you give some information on what system you are working.

first, conflicts reports none!

Its a 6.5.22f Indigo2 Impact 10000, I am not the one that installed Irix in the first place so I actually dont know what has been installed and not.

Regarding system libraries, how can I figure that out?

mIchael

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thunderbird32 wrote:
kjaer wrote:
For the n-th time, Suns don't output composite sync on green. They output composite (H+V) sync, on a separate sync pin. Your Compaq monitor doesn't know how to handle anything but separate sync (pin for each of H and V) and I'm guessing it's showing nothing because it's smart enough to not light the tube unless it is receiving (what it considers to be) a valid sync signal.


Well, that explains that then. I guess I'm going to have to find a monitor capable of using composite sync. Do Sun's LCDs support it? No way I'm paying for the shipping on a CRT. Either that or I need to find an affordable sync separator. Any ideas where I can find one? Google didn't turn up anything affordable.

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Are you sure your CTX monitor can even display an 1152x900 pixel raster?


Good point, doubt it. I don't remember ever using it above 800x600, thought it might do 1024x768. I presume the Sun won't output such a low resolution.

Well I don't know about that monitor but in my eyes it look like some cheap old display, depending on the 13W3 plug(i is strapped for a certain resolution) but for that time it was a pretty high freq(>90MHz) pixelclock and that monitor ...

I could be wrong.

Dont you have any modern TFT monitor, anyone today should work and like said Sun dont use sync on green.

Why not unplug the keyboard and connect a serial cable to computer, 9600 baud and see what it says, if you get into the OPENBOOT then continue with a better display.

Michael

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thunderbird32 wrote:
mila wrote:
Well I don't know about that monitor but in my eyes it look like some cheap old display, depending on the 13W3 plug(i is strapped for a certain resolution) but for that time it was a pretty high freq(>90MHz) pixelclock and that monitor ...


I do have a better CRT I was only using that one becasue it's the only one I was getting any output from.

mila wrote:
Dont you have any modern TFT monitor, anyone today should work and like said Sun dont use sync on green.


Again, I do but I was just trying the two CRTs I had at my workbench. I've got an LCD on my main rig, but I didn't want to take everything apart and drag the display downstairs.

mila wrote:
Why not unplug the keyboard and connect a serial cable to computer, 9600 baud and see what it says, if you get into the OPENBOOT then continue with a better display.


As I said earlier, I don't have a serial cable on hand to try this with, not to mention neither my desktop nor my laptop have a serial port. The only machine I have that has a serial port (and works) is a 486 laptop running Windows 3.1. It should work, I just need to get a cable.

Sorry for being a bit of a dunce, I'm not very familiar with non-x86 hardware.

Connect pin 2-3, 3-2 and 7-7 on a DSUB25, use 9600 baud, first try connect pin 2-3 on the PC and check that your terminal software echo what you write "hello".

Michael

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diegel wrote:
You may compare it with my working system:
Code:
# find / -name libjpeg\* -print
/usr/lib/dmedia/imageconverters/libjpeg.so
/usr/lib/libjpeg.so
/usr/lib32/mips3/dmedia/imageconverters/libjpeg.so
/usr/lib32/mips4/dmedia/imageconverters/libjpeg.so
/usr/lib32/dmedia/imageconverters/libjpeg.so
/usr/lib32/libjpeg.so
/usr/java/lib/sgi/green_threads/libjpeg_g.so
/usr/java/lib/sgi/green_threads/libjpeg.so
/usr/java/lib/sgi/native_threads/libjpeg_g.so
/usr/java/lib/sgi/native_threads/libjpeg.so
/usr/java/lib32/sgi/green_threads/libjpeg_g.so
/usr/java/lib32/sgi/green_threads/libjpeg.so
/usr/java/lib32/sgi/native_threads/libjpeg_g.so
/usr/java/lib32/sgi/native_threads/libjpeg.so
/usr/nekoware/lib/libjpeg.so
/usr/nekoware/lib/libjpeg.a
/usr/nekoware/lib/libjpeg.la
/usr/nekoware/lib/libjpeg.so.62.0.0


/usr/nekoware/lib/libjpeg.so
/usr/nekoware/lib/libjpeg.so.63
/usr/nekoware/lib/libjpeg.a
/usr/nekoware/lib/libjpeg.la
/usr/nekoware/lib/libjpeg.so.63.0
/usr/nekoware/share/doc/libjpeg
/usr/nekoware/share/doc/libjpeg/libjpeg.txt
/usr/nekoware/src/libjpeg-turbo-1.2.0.tar.gz
/usr/java/lib32/sgi/native_threads/libjpeg.so
/usr/java/lib32/sgi/green_threads/libjpeg.so
/usr/java/lib/sgi/native_threads/libjpeg.so
/usr/java/lib/sgi/green_threads/libjpeg.so
/usr/lib32/dmedia/imageconverters/libjpeg.so
/usr/lib32/mips4/dmedia/imageconverters/libjpeg.so
/usr/lib32/mips3/dmedia/imageconverters/libjpeg.so
/usr/lib32/libjpeg.so
/usr/lib/dmedia/imageconverters/libjpeg.so
/usr/lib/libjpeg.so

Michael

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Hi,

Yes, you should start with replacing the IDPROM which is a CMOS RAM with a battery.

Start by reading this, I have only used this on old Suns but start here and get back to us with feedback.

I have a full house of Suns and actually have a my first U170E Creator 3D(bought brand now for alot of$$) with the same issues, so we could work it it together.

let me know!


Michael

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Under S11 they have created a simlar tool I just discoved from Usenet.

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/artic ... 66525.html

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Hi,

I have a O200 2x225 and really would like to have a peer in order to connect them for fun!

Skins would also be prefered, the only thing I have so far is a door :)

Michael

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Code:
origin200 18# hinv -vm
Location: /hw/module/1/slot/MotherBoard/node
PIMM_225_2M_2P Board: barcode HTT463     part 013-2382-002 rev  B
Location: /hw/module/1/slot/MotherBoard/node/xtalk/8
IP29 Board: barcode HTZ237     part 030-1389-001 rev  A
Location: /hw/module/1/slot/MotherBoard/node/xtalk/8/pci/2
2 225 MHZ IP27 Processors
CPU: MIPS R10000 Processor Chip Revision: 3.4
FPU: MIPS R10010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 3.4
CPU 0 at Module 1/Slot 1/Slice A: 225 Mhz MIPS R10000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 3.4. Scache: Size 2 MB Speed 225 Mhz   Tap 0x9
CPU 1 at Module 1/Slot 1/Slice B: 225 Mhz MIPS R10000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 3.4. Scache: Size 2 MB Speed 225 Mhz   Tap 0x9
Main memory size: 2048 Mbytes
Instruction cache size: 32 Kbytes
Data cache size: 32 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 2 Mbytes
Memory at Module 1/Slot 1: 2048 MB (enabled)
Bank 0 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 1 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 2 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 3 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version QL1040B (rev. 2), single ended
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 1)
Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 2)
Disk drive: unit 3 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 3)
Disk drive: unit 4 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 4)
Disk drive: unit 5 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 5)
Disk drive: unit 6 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 6)
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version QL1040B (rev. 2), single ended
CDROM: unit 6 on SCSI controller 1
IOC3 serial port: tty1
IOC3 serial port: tty2
IOC3 parallel port: plp1
Integral Fast Ethernet: ef0, version 1, module 1, slot MotherBoard, pci 2
Origin 200 base I/O, module 1 slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 4265, device 3) pci slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 4215, device 4128) pci slot 0
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 4215, device 4128) pci slot 1
IOC3 external interrupts: 1
HUB in Module 1/Slot 1: Revision 5 Speed 90.00 Mhz (enabled)
IP27prom in Module 1/Slot n1: Revision 6.64
origin200 19#
origin200 19# gfxinfo
gfxinfo: Command not found.
origin200 20# uname -aR
IRIX64 origin200 6.5 6.5.13m 07091542 IP27
origin200 21# /sbin/diskpatch -v
sc0d1l0:  Disk         SGI     IBM  DGHS09Y    0190  Serial: 6812DB04
sc0d2l0:  Disk         SGI     IBM DNES-309170YSAF0  Serial: AJ13Q096
sc0d3l0:  Disk         SGI     IBM DNES-309170YSAF0  Serial: AJHEV974
sc0d4l0:  Disk         SGI     IBM DNES-309170YSAF0  Serial: AJHF7700
sc0d5l0:  Disk         SEAGATE ST336704LSUN36G 032C  Serial: 3CD136XM
sc0d6l0:  Disk         SEAGATE ST336704LSUN36G 032C  Serial: 3CD137KE

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What is "colo", co-location or?
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So what is the current status now?

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I have a Sony Xperia Acro but now then just relased Xperia V, both are watertight and the latter has 4G very nice phones and still very much Ericsson class when it comes to RF and voice!

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0.99pl12, thats along time ago I was on 0.99pl13 for a loong time :)
Even the first? "live" CD Yggdrasil comes to my mind!

For me with SGI I got my first of two SGI in order to run FSN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFUlAQZB9Ng !

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When I am on Mac I use ssh -x(running emacs on the remote box) or if I am on a slow line expandrive using emacs locally.

telnet if you are on a local network is fastest.

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Great.

S10 is available for download from Oracle, there should be a new version comming so also with some ZFS enhancements and more.

You have a old OPENBOOT version.

Michael

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Du you think shipping would cost that little to Sweden?

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Your second :) I have used two firewall for the last hmm ~15 years, the first 10 it was a SS10 with dual 40MHz SuperSparc and now a U10 440Mhz!

Netgear is such a crap, as a Decus member you should know better :)
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I have to sleep about that, I really dont need any more boxes but just for the fun of it like in your signature but you never know when she will leave!!

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Hmm, I might be wrong with S10 on U1(memoryb fades), but S8 and S9 should be okey or?

I would also do a netinstall if possible, do you have any other Solaris box, Sparc or AMD otherwise you could install S10/S11 on a virtual box and save some 4GB for a S8/S9 netinstall, its very easy!
S8 02/02 is I think the last S8 and classic version
To get a U1 run in 64 bit you need to change a kernel parameter due to a CPU bug on CPUs below 200MHz, but who needs 64 bit on 200Mhz :)

Once you got a Solaris server running you download the S8/S9 image DVD and mount it using lofiadm

from my mind!

make a entry for the ISO i /dev
# lofiadm -a <path_to_iso>
You will now get a respons like /dev/lofi/1 which means that a new device entry has been created poiting to the ISO

# mount -F hsfs /dev/lofi/1 /mnt (hsfs is High Sierra Filesystem today predecessor to ISO9660)
/install/Solaris8/202/Sparc/dvd

Then you traverse down to "Solaris_8/Tools" and execute setup_install_server /install/Solaris8/202/Sparc/dvd (or whatever path you like)
This will take some time
Then you do execute /install/Solaris8/202/Sparc/dvd/Solaris_8/Tools/add_install_client <ip> or <name> sun4u

once thats done on the U1 you do from openboot "boot net - install"

Any qustions ask

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They have to be loud since they are thin and deep and made for telcos aswell, but they are rock solid and the CPU has good parity on all major buses that is very important if you have GB's of RAM and raids with TB of disk since you don't want to write to the wrong place on the raid :)

I have one using two LSI HBAs with 16 SATA drives mirrored ZFS and spares under S11, not very fast but very stable!

Its a pretty neat design inside and the CPU is actuall opensourced(or was I cant get there anymore Larry!!) and the spec for Sparc is public!!! thats a first in enterprice CPU I think.
http://www.sparc.org/
http://www.opensparc.net/
Sparc is also use in space via Leon.
http://www.gaisler.com/

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+1
History is very important. I will never forgive myself from dumping all my PDP's and some 20 early SUNs (:
All due to apartment and wife, now I do not have any apartment(I have house) but wife still... :)

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Ohh now its been 3-4 years since I did use VMS, $ set host ..., set def d$7:[000000.mila] haha what a syntax once you been on Unix for a while.
I remember when I went from VAX and using ABEL for HW design to Sun and schematic and VHDL/Verilog, big change that was huge, but Unix was and is much better.

The cool thing on VAX was that we where so many on the same node all the time and it never crashed ever, if there was a need to a boot they told us in advance!

"system going down back up shortly via automatic reboot"


http://www.textfiles.com/100/vaxen.jok

R.I.P VAXn

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Oh gosh, I really would love to a second O200 and connect them.

if you will not get rid of the O200 I think Fedex could ship it and fix the packing.


Michael

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How tall are these cabinets?

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Hi,

Just a question. If you not have trim support in the driver, how can the drive itself make "garbage collection" without knowing the filesystem?

This flash must be erased prior to write which means that if I write a file foo.c and then rm foo.c, the file system only removes the "pointer" to the file, so how can the SSD firmware "erase" it?

Or does the "latest" SSD without "need" for trim just are pretty quick in erasing then non 0xff sectors in the flash?

Michael

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Do they work in O200?

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Hi,

I have never seen any need for extra fan exept for cooling the hardrive.

Why would you need extra fan between the PSU and MBUS? is not the fans in the PSU enough?

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SAQ wrote:
2xSM91-2 + Leo will burn the Aurora chassis down.

4xHyperSPARC 200 +ZX probably will as well.

Anyway, I'd go with a wood/Masonite/metal/plastic/whatever box with a plate the SS20 sits on and a bank of high-volume fans on it to move the air. Perhaps pull the floppy drive cover to increase airflow. Make sure the external fans and the internal fans match in direction so they aren't fighting against each other.

Hmm, its been a while since I used SS20 but I did have quite a few and never had any issues with CPU temp exept for the harddrives. A common issue with all Aurora chassis(SS4/5/10 and 20) was HD issues. SS4 and SS5 did sometimes use low power(performance) drives and those was did not have these issues.

Nevertheless, the PSU and its fans feeds the chassis with air(the air travel from right to left seen from the front) which means that the air from the floppy drive will be directed into the chassis without taking the air away from the harddrive.

But I understand your thinking since these modules where very rare in WS's, I would guess that these where use where only SunOS 4 was possible.

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cb88 wrote:
Well.. a friend of mine suggested swapping the PSU and HD fans fans something faster... probably Vantech fans with a pot to control them so they aren't obscenely loud.

I installed solaris 8 on it the other day... and solaris 9 yesterday seems to run decently but CDE is definitely more suited to the hardware than Gnome 2.

If you want to enjoy the SS20 as a desktop then use Openwindows(good looking and fast), so stay on S8 since S9 was not a big version people jumpt from S8-S10!

Opensource packages is available here www.opencsw.org

mvh Michael

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Hi,

After been powered off for some time I tried to powerup my Indigo2 but nothing happends, what could be the likely reason for that?

Michael
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