The collected works of LaLora

There is an interesting demo for those of us working with or learning finite element analysis that comes with Irix called SolidView 6D (written by Jim Winget). It visualises FEA results with plane constantly cutting the object. There are two saved files, one showing animated piston and other showing upper part of human body with organs. After reading system manual page about file formats for this demo I decided to modify the ANSYS piston, putting only 8 nodes, thus making one brick element, no displacements and no stresses. However, it did not work. Demo failed to start or started and then crashed after a few seconds. I also tried other combinations in engine.fea and body.fea files but nothing worked. Has anyone tried something like that? Looks like this demo is useless for everything else but those two demo files.
It is stated at Mathworks site that MATLAB release13 was the last one for IRIX. The one offered now is r14 and is not supported for IRIX. I work with MATLAB almost 50% of time on pc and just when I was thinking of getting new sgi workstation now I read this!!! Awful! Does anyone have more info on the subject? Will they make future MATLAB for IRIX? Did anyone maby try if Linux r14 version works on IRIX? If not, then will they still have r13 for purchase or is r13 history?

Univesity of Texas website says (I quote):


''The current distribution release of MATLAB for all available platforms is Release 14 (aka MATLAB 7).

Supported Hardware

Compaq Alpha
Hewlett Packard 9000
IBM RS/6000
Silicon Graphics
Intel-based PC or equivalent (running Windows or Linux)
Power PC G3 or higher (running Mac OS X)''

...and Mathworks site says (I quote): ... /unix.html


''For Release 14, the next major release, IBM/AIX, Alpha/TRU64, and SGI/IRIX platforms will no longer be available.''

Now I do not know am I crazy here or what, but what is the truth here? Texas university website says SGI is supported for r14 (that is MATLAB 7)and Mathworks says it is not...

Now what the hell is happening here? :?

Thanks for all the info and if maby anyone has MATLAB r13 for IRIX for sale please replay...

Mathematica cannot match performance of matlab in almost any segment. I'm also too tied to tons of scripts I wrote in the past years in Matlab as part of a research study. I was prepearing to get something better for 3d visualisation and numerical methods, a sgi workstation for team presentation with rear screen projectors (geophysics and geology models) and now this...! No more Matlab for Irix... This just ruined my day today totally! I see only two options now:

Option 1:
Mathworks will come to sanity and will have next release for IRIX or will continue to sell r13

Option 2:
I will have to figure out how to transfer or even remake tons of my PC Matlab data and models to some other SGI visualisation program. Do you guys maby know something for SGI that could generate something like ''fog of particles'', dots or pixel size objects in various colors and transparencies in 3d from set of HUGE arrays and matrices (and would not take too long to learn)?

u can use SGI Altix for MatLab R14

...well..thanks but...If I had that much money I'd probably be on some yacht with a helicopter pad and swimming pool on top, sailing somewhere in Micronesia and not on internet forum 8)
Thank you all for info..

Hold on to to your r13!!

I would if I knew where to get it (for irix). They have only r14 now.

Since December, we have been working on an in-house, native IRIX MATLAB replacement written from scratch in C (of course) as the front-end to our simulator. So far it's only has a fraction of the functionality, but a core lex/yacc based command parser is there. It reads M-scripts and writes MAT files. The plotting tool kicks-ass. I don't know if a public release is ever feasable, but maybe someday...

It sounds excellent... keep up the good work! I wish I could somehow help but C/openGL visualisation programming is my weak point and that is why I'm stuck with matlab :(
If it will be ever possible to get it for private or public use, free or for purchase please inform that on this forum. I would make my geological models in C/openGL long time ago but when I first tried there were so many compiling errors, all kinds of missing libraries that I could search for years, so I did work in matlab 5.
It is the 12years special edition triple distilled (whatever that means).

That means that alcohol is separated from water three times
so that its content
goes from something like a few percent to as much as, ..huh, 90 I
Before that, you get barley (mostly starch), then after water mixing
the process makes sugar and after that alcohol. I think there is even
a special law in Ireland that says it is forbidden to give name
"Whiskey" to such product if that separated alcohol is not let alone
for at least three years...

..but that does not matter once you are dead drunk in some Irish pub :)
Key Action

4/6 Aileron
8/2 Elevator
Source: FlightGear Short Reference

Right clicking the mouse activates the simulator control mode (cross hair cursor). This allows control of aileron/elevator via the mouse in absence of a joystick (enable --enable-auto-coordination in this case).

Right clicking the mouse another time activates the view control mode (arrow cursor). This allows changing direction of view via the mouse.

Right clicking the mouse once more resets it into the initial state.
Source: FlightGear Short Reference

There are keypad joysticks that can be purchased from various internet sites. They are just plugged into PS/2 port and moving such joystick functions just as pressing number/arrow keys. Other keys except those four numbers/arrows are the same as on keyboard keypad and you can press them. No drivers needed at all.

There are also muse joysticks that can be purchased from various internet sites. They are just plugged into PS/2 port and moving such joystick functions just as moving the cursor with mouse. Mouse buttons are also included. No drivers needed at all.

There are also PS/2 headtrackers and motion trackers, originally developed for people with disabilities, that are just plugged into PS/2 port and function, depending on which version you buy, just as moving the mouse or keypad number/arrow keys. There is a small control box that comes with it which transforms motion signals to mouse or keypad nubber/arrow PS/2 signal. No drivers needed at all. Works on every system with standard PS/2 port. Sensitivity of such movement, meaning turning your head around the cockpit or sensitivity of aileron or elevator for such device can thus be set in IRIX as mouse cursor sensitivity/reactivity.

The ultimate cheap solution for home users of FlightGear on IRIX would be buying one of those lcd VR glasses (there are also dual channel input versions if you have such gfx) and then using PS/2 keypad joystick for flight controls and PS/2 mouse headtracker for VR glasses. No drivers needed at all.
ANSYS and Nastran are fully supported for Linux and workstations running Linux, both 32 and 64-bit.
I don't know if moderator maby works at NASA (? I'm guessing) so then has different ("special") relationship with sgi and support, but let me tell you what happened when Fuel and Tezro came out and I called local sgi representative to ask about the price..
I called,.. secretary answered, I asked about Fuel and Tezro price and then she said to wait a moment to give me the guy who is in charge of sales on the phone - then he answered and when I asked about the new Fuel and Tezro workstations his words were, if I translate them to english: "..oh, no, no,.. it's really pointless to buy that 'cause new P4 will perform much better than those workstations. The new P4s, AMDs and those new graphics boards that you can buy everywhere can already do all that those workstations can.. Thank you for calling."


This is a pure "school example" story that I tell everyone when asked about who buys UNIX workstations these days. The fact is that major manufacturers - HP, SGI, SUN, IBM, NEC,.. have already decieded that new future direction is going to be Linux, Windows, Solaris, AMD, Intel, POWER, PowerPC, Ultrasparc and if you show any deviation from that direction then they will, over time, FORCE you to buy it. There are no more secrets about that, these companies have "quiet" agreements between themselfs about market control.
I can't remember ever seeing such huge number of Origin 2xx/2xxx and 3xxx selling at the same time on ebay in US and Germany, and, I must admit, the prices for what you get are getting lower and lower every month. Seems like big universities, companies and research institutions are slowly dumping Origins and switching to Altix and others.. which means, from hobyist, stundents or young researchers point of view - good news (almost like a dream). If it continues that way, maby even I'll get some of those racks. Here are some examples right now as I'm typing this:

ebay USA:

Origin2000 4x195 $550
Origin200 2x270 $380
Origin2100 4x400 $2250
8 x Origin200 2x225 $1395
Origin2000 8x195 $1395
Origin2000 32x195 $3995
Origin3400 4x400 $6995
Origin200 1x180 $149
Origin200 1x225 $199
Origin2000 64x195 $6995
Origin3400 20xR14k $9999

..and ebay Germany:

Origin2400 20x300 6949 Euro
sgi is in computer world the same as is:

-Conrad-Johnson in audio amplifier world
-Wilson audio in lodspeaker world
-THX in cinema sound world
-Gibson in electric guitar world
-Lamborghini in car world
-Omega in wristwatch world
-Gulfstream in business-jet world

Quality and veeery expencive :)


"..Paris (Hilton) honey, let me just turn off my Conrad-Johnson tube amp and Onyx4 rack, put Omega Speedmaster watch on my wrist and change strings on my handcrafted sunburst Gibson Les Paul and then we can sit in my Lamborghini and drive to the airport where leather seat Gulfstream is waiting for us.."

..who says I don't like "quality" :D
Would NASA have even bothered to talk to SGI for Columbia if it was Origin 3000 based? No, of course not

In case you still don't know - "Columbia" was almost entirely "donated" to NASA by SGI. They rushed to set it up quickly right before November Top 500 HPC list, so they could be on or near the top of the list for Altix "promotion" purpose. "Columbia", various sources estimate, at that time represnted around 10% of ALL global Itanium2 processor sales. When somebody has to "donate" 10% of all global sales of a new processor just to convince customers about their new system then that is more a sign of weakness for that company than some big success.

No, of course not - they would have gone to IBM.

It's quite funny that you wrote this line because:

"..If Itanium2 failes, SGI will be bought by IBM and their engineers will be used to boost new IBM systems with their experince.."

..was (or similar) written just a few months ago at HPC forum by someone close to IBM or SGI. Then, about a week later, I checked again at that forum and saw a very wierd thing - the posted message, and even all messages posted under (actually almost all messages on forum) were deleted (it's quite empty now), by administrator(s). Lots of people from industry come to visit TOP 500 site, sometimes even SGI has ads there, and SGI probably demanded for those messages quoting that they'll be bought by IBM be deleted.
It probably is not a secret in industry and business world any more that SGI will be bought by IBM in the end. The primary force of any high-tech company is always (and ONLY) innovation, new technology, helping new scientific research and so on. Once you loose that - it's over. You can't reinvent another HP zx6000 or claim to be serious scientific supercomputing company while posting news on your website that should attract religion-decision based shareholders and customers!

What do you think?

$8500 :?

Why is this better than HP zx6000 which costs MUCH less?
HP's discontinued it's zx6000

HP did not discontinue zx6000. It's at their website, together with entry level price, warranty and specifications:

Entry level configuration for zx6000 is $1999, for SGI Prism is $8500. I assume by entry level it means one cpu, minimal RAM and gfx. Entry level for zx6000 specifications differ from Prism only maby in gfx,..


..even if you DOUBLE the price for zx6000 and then maby get even dual Itanium2 or highest quality gfx, it STILL costs around twice less than Prism and I don't have to mention that zx6000 can have HP-UX, a true UNIX, and Prism, double the cost, ..eerr ..Gnome! 'nuff said! Make the choice yourself..!
..but wait, ..isn't "Novell SUSE Enterprise server" the "default" version of Linux on SGI Itanium2 systems (supplied on CDs with system purchase)? If so, than, at least by looking at packages included in their Linux distribution at Novell website, OpenMotif should be one of the choices so you can set Motif during the installation instead of Gnome?


..maby I better ask: What Linux do you get on CDs and installed on disk with SGI Itanium2 system purchase? Is it Novell (with all those GNU packages and OpenMotif) or some kind of SGIs own Linux distribution?
With spectacular promotion pictures showing turbolent flows around fighter jets I can't help but to guess that US taxpayers are going to be the ones paying those $8500 at the and of the chain.. hope it makes you guys feel safe from "evil".. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
6 module Altux

I don't know if you made a typing error since letters "i" and "u" are right by each other on the keyboard, but that's one hell great new word:

Altix -> Al(tux) :D
who says it's hot in Europe? :)

here (from geostationary orbit I guess?), tough I don't know if hotlinking is allowed

Rain again in Rosario...

aha :)

if it were bought by Yugo

Actually, it's "Zastava" :)
..ok, since it's "everything else" part of the forum, I'll throw in some info since I'm an ex-yugo driver :oops: I "donated" it to local repair shop few years ago and they'll use it for, ..eer.., ..well, that's the question I've been asking myself too :) It was my first car right after I got drivers license in high school, a used one, so cheap that a high school student could afford it. It was functional for about a year and, since there were no dealers anymore, I had to fully rely on local repair shops that gave me spare parts from older recycled yugos. After a major engine failure about three years ago it was finally parked in front of my apartment building and I gave it a last slow ride to a repair shop for dismemberment (otherwise I would have to pay tax for recycling). Yugo was supposed to be some kind of cheap reverse-engineered Fiat 17-something (is it 176 ?), but ofcourse the whole project failed miserably, and it came out as nothing more than a "box-with-wheels". The country where it was manufactured also collapsed, and last nail to the coffin was added in 1999 when main yugo manufacturing facility was bombarded by multi-million dollar us navy sattelite guided submarine-launched cruise missiles (..guys, what a waste of resources to destroy a few yugos in a half-dead company :) ). Anyway, I actually know some people who still live in that country and they say that yugo production actually started again for the local market overe there but in very small numbers and with almost no modifications. As far as it concernes Trabant, I'm sure there's lot of people from germany on this forum who will tell you all the stories about it. That one was from ex-east-germany and is not related to yugo. It had some even more "inspireing" features, like for example, was made of plastic :) :)
Despite the poor design of ex-socialist vehicles, my uncle still has a soviet Lada Niva 4X4 "rough terrain" vehicle and says it's perfect and could go anywhere. The soviets designed it originally to be capable of withstanding rough, vast and cold terrain in central and eastern russia.

Anyway, I have a Japaneese car now :)
no matter how fast you're going, just turn the wheel and you're gonna make it thru the turn

that is a very interesting engineering concept. I never tought of something like that before
haha :lol:

wouldn't it be more useful to use a helicopter to catch other Lamborghinis/Ferraris/etc. ?
"How did you get into SGI ?" ..hmm, let's see

..let's do a little time travel back to early 90s :)

So, it's early 90s, junior school for me. Cold war is over, large posters of Claudia Schiffer and Diego Maradona hang over my bed, Guns'N'Roses are blasting off my cassette player and Ayrton Senna is still alive. With exception of just a few "audio CDs", which was an absolute rarety in stores, desk in my room is almost fully covered with "audio cassettes", 60 and 90 minute TDKs mostly (and some Sonys). Audio cassettes are "standard" for recording music and nobody gives s*it about copyright. I'm wearing ripped jeans and Van Halen T-shirts. To majority of school kids, including myself, a device today widely known as "personal computer" is a mystery. The only time I got in touch with something that looked like keyboard connected to a cathode display was at my friends home. The device was called shortly "Commodore" and all he knew about it was how to load and play a few, for todays standards, primitive games. They were loaded off a cassette which pretty much looked like those from my audio collection. When I asked what was the keyboard used for he replied that there can be some "programming" done but he doesn't now anything. All kids still considered games to be best for playing on those kiosks in large malls and stores. Anyway, about a year later my father purchased a first "real" computer, which had a mouse, keyboard and printer. Before that, all I ever knew about computers was from books and tv, mostly considering them to be reserved for large universities and goverments and unavailable for average family plus my general opinion was that you had to be some kind of smart scientist or mathematician to know how to operate it. It was a 33MHz CPU generic PC, with about 50MB of disk space and MS-DOS and an GUI extension called Windows 3.1 :) Within just a few days, I already knew most DOS commands and was playing a game that came bundled with Windows 3.1 called "Gorillas" (or something like that) with two gorillas targeting each other with bananas. Months later, most kinds in school already had a generic PC, and floppies of various games and software started floating around, mostly from MicroProse (games). The first CAD program I ever installed was Autocad (11 I think). It had a specific blue frame and ran from DOS. Highlited menus were yellow. I still remember I could not start it from Windows 3.1 and got some memory issues error message. Soon a new hardware device appeared, called Fax-Modem. There still was no WWW, so there was a collection of servers that you could connect to and the whole thing was called BBS. I still remember those pre-www times ..hehe, we did conversations from DOS on those terminal style BBS services (a some sort of message board). Then, around '93-'94, I was reading some PC magazine and there was an article with pictures about some high-tech alternatives to generic PCs, one was called NEXT, a black case, and the other IRIS Indigo, a blue one. This was the first time I heard of something else than a "generic PC" or Commodore. I found it specially interesting when seeing screen pictures of those displaying a very different GUI than those Windows 3.1 and some molecules and 3D program running. About a year later we got WWW access and browser called NCSA Mosaic and then the whole AltaVista thing started and.. well.. getting information was no problem anymore..
well, back in the days of 3.1 and later 95/98 you would just open command prompt (DOS) and type "edit" and be thrown to simple text editor, or for editiong specific file type "edit [filename]" however the whole thing cased functioning after 2000 release. Anyway, these days I'm celebrating exactly 6 months of being 100% non-MS user and except in public libraries I haven't seen Windows nor do I have any desire to return to their products ever. The decision is final. Conclusion is: Unix, BSD and Linux are all better than MS in all cases. The tools I rely on now are mwm, Vi-editor, C, Fortran, gnuplot, Latex, Lynx, Mozilla, Nedit, Gimp, Blender, opengl libs, xpdf etc. MS doesn't, cannot or don't want to offer any of those tools and so I just say bye-bye to them :)

..of-course, then there is also the virus/spyware issue

I have no complaints regarding all Unix and BSD versions. Unlike some comments I've seen, I actually like Unix CDE and even more mwm. As far as Linux goes, technically it's ok, the only thing I will never understand is whay the HELL does it have to be associated with stupid pinguin cartoons, hippies, hacking, criminal, nerds, geeks, cult following :?: :?:
It's actually the large portion of various so-called "Linux user groups" which want to enforce such image. THAT is so stupid that it's already becoming sad. I remember when I first rented a Debian CDs from library to get to know compilers, Latex, gnuplot etc. and I can't tell you the shame I was feeling when I placed the book with install CDs on renting machine :oops: :) There were all kinds of people in line behind me, journalists, scientists, other students, children, old ladies, engineers, lawyers, etc. and you should see their faces, hehe, I'll never forget that! They were all thinking this typical stereotype that they read in newspapers or Internet: "..just look at this guy, OMG, he's renting this thing called LINUX uggh, awful.. He must be some kind of junkie, drug dealer, hippie and is probably gonna go writing viruses and do criminal hacking against all of us "normal" Excel and Word users.." :)
It is possible for the "RĂ©union Island"

If you pay me the ticket it's ok :)
but if the whole bird flu thing starts here in europe maby a vacation at a remote place like Reunion wouldn't be a bad idea
"IT" now sadly more than often means Microsoft Certified...

so true, so true!

Today, it's like this (and sadly, in professional engineering and IT world too):

IT = Microsoft
text document = .doc file
Internet = IE
Mail = Outlook
CAD = Autocad
spreadsheet = Excel
programming = visual basic and NET
compiler = "what is that?"
operating system = "what is that?"
computer = PC with Microsoft XP "program"
Unix, BSD, Linux = "you're criminal hacker? Making viruses? You're not serious and we don't wan't to have anything in common with you!"

..and so on. Those are just a few of my experiences from the last 6 months.
I used to ask when I completed my projects, for example:
Q: "so would you like it in IGES format or any other specific?"
..and the answer would be:
A:"..umm, I don't know anything about that, I have Autocad"

Q:"do you want me to write a script so that gnuplot will read and plot the array data"
..and the answer would be:
A:"..umm, I don't know anything about that, I have Excell"

..and so on and on.
..ok, what's next? Anyone from Christmas island? Samoa? Ascension? ..Barbados or Bermuda maby? :) :) There's already one member of this forum living on Reunion, now another one on Guam.. How many of you people are living on such exotic distant places? :)
I had a bacterial throat inflamation last year and got prescribed antibiotics. I got them in pharmacy. So you can get them on street? :)
-TASCAM tape deck and cd player
-Pioneer Laserdisc player
-Crown pre and p. amp
-a pair of used older model JBLpro Screen Array (right out from the back of projector screen at local cinema 8) )