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Nekochan n00b greetings from a longtime Irix-o-phile (Indigo2 SI for the win), and recent (yesterday) O2 owner!

jan-jaap, or anyone else who knows: can you please recommend to me a place in the NL/BE/DE/FR area that is able to perform the necessary chip-swap work on an RM5200 board? I've found a PN# 030-1493-001 for OK-ish money online, but I want to be able to line everything up with a certain degree of surety first, rather than blowing money and hoping.

Oh and incidentally, my girlfriend is from Wijchen :-)

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mapesdhs wrote:
We are currently trying to accumulate enough modules for a batch.

Ian.


Spoken to edefault. You can count my module in...when I get it! For lack of a European supplier of RM5200 boards I'm having to order mine from California, which will mean it's at least a week before I have it.

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Have received my 600MHz module and it's happily running with a fresh install of 6.5.30! Fantastic :D It booted once or twice on the 6.5.29 install I was running with my 180MHz R5k, but otherwise would fairly consistently hang during boot with the 600MHz module, and very consistently would boot with the 180MHz one. I mention this in case anyone else has a similar issue-- luckily as I have piles of SCA80 drives sitting around, reinstalling was pretty painless.

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:Indigo2IMP: <- Herodotus (from back when I was naming everything after Greek historians, before I had computers > historians)

Uhh....

dual PPro: Xenophon
hackintosh: Kallisti
hack Pro: Behemoth
fileserver: thucydides
webserver: pentabarf
macbook: discordia
Commodore 64: Eostre (it has a NIC so it needs a name!!)
NAS/WAP: naswap

girlfriend's PC: doornroosje
girlfriend's previous PC: Jonitron (never thought of a good name)
girlfriend's pre-previous PC (now at my work): sneeuwwitje
girlfriend's pre-pre-previous PC: appeltje
486DX2/66 made by Tulip: tulpje

There are more, many more, but I don't want to steal the thread :)

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uridium wrote: * Sound of crickets

So is anyone else actually trying this? Working? problems?


I am! I am!

O2 RM7k/6.5.30. I have not setup lib paths and crap so maybe that's why it's dying on me with this err:

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eris 11% ../bin/irssi
8977:../bin/irssi: rld: Error: unresolvable symbol in ../bin/irssi: PL_curpad
8977:../bin/irssi: rld: Error: unresolvable symbol in ../bin/irssi: PL_sv_yes
8977:../bin/irssi: rld: Error: unresolvable symbol in ../bin/irssi: PL_op
8977:../bin/irssi: rld: Error: unresolvable symbol in ../bin/irssi: PL_tmps_floor
8977:../bin/irssi: rld: Error: unresolvable symbol in ../bin/irssi: PL_tmps_ix
8977:../bin/irssi: rld: Error: unresolvable symbol in ../bin/irssi: PL_stack_sp
8977:../bin/irssi: rld: Error: unresolvable symbol in ../bin/irssi: PL_markstack_ptr
8977:../bin/irssi: rld: Error: unresolvable symbol in ../bin/irssi: Perl_get_sv
8977:../bin/irssi: rld: Error: unresolvable symbol in ../bin/irssi: PL_perl_destruct_level
8977:../bin/irssi: rld: Error: unresolvable symbol in ../bin/irssi: PL_sigfpe_saved
8977:../bin/irssi: rld: Error: unresolvable symbol in ../bin/irssi: PL_sv_undef
8977:../bin/irssi: rld: Error: unresolvable symbol in ../bin/irssi: PL_errgv
8977:../bin/irssi: rld: Error: unresolvable symbol in ../bin/irssi: PL_stack_max
8977:../bin/irssi: rld: Error: unresolvable symbol in ../bin/irssi: PL_stack_base
8977:../bin/irssi: rld: Error: unresolvable symbol in ../bin/irssi: PL_markstack_max
8977:../bin/irssi: rld: Error: unresolvable symbol in ../bin/irssi: PL_na
8977:../bin/irssi: rld: Error: unresolvable symbol in ../bin/irssi: Perl_sv_2pv_flags
8977:../bin/irssi: rld: Fatal Error: this executable has unresolvable symbols


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editnote:
Pulled the source, installed glib to satisfy prereqs, and am now kicking off a build. Will report in. Mind you if anything goes wrong I'm pretty much screwed since I never really got past chapter 1 of K&R :P
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Uber-fail. No idea what's going on here, but I can't use this build.
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uridium wrote: theodric: Hi, looks like your perl 5.8.{8.9} dist is broken or an rqsall bombed. Hmm. Most of those symbols are in nekoware's libperl.so if you run elfdump -cC libperl.so | pg<return> you should see that there's symbols for PL_curpad, PL_sv_yes, PL_op ... are there. Perhaps one of your perl deps is missing? Good place to start :)


Thanks for the pointer. I did update to the Perl build sitting in /beta but it didn't seem to make a load of difference. I'm on the wrong side of the (relatively small) country today but I'll be back nearer my machines tomorrow and will have another poke at this.
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I spent a long, long time trying to decide what car to buy, since it was mainly going to be a toy (or so I told myself at the time).

    * I toyed with the Lotus Elise S2, but what was a viable dream when I lived in Ireland became a major pain in the neck in the part of the world where we don't drive on the wrong side of the road: practically everything I could find was right-hand drive, British reg and often crashed and repaired.
    * I toyed with the Porsche 928, but after the initial glee from the 5.4L V8 you apparently discover that the electronics are nightmarishly unreliable, and unless I was a tricksy hobbit the insurance was going to cost me €700/month. I'm 27, see, so I clearly cannot be trusted with anything more powerful than a riding lawnmower.
    * I toyed with the 80s Porsche 911. Stylish, simple, fast in a straight line, relatively reliable if you keep the oil filled up...but visibility is odd, engine access is so-so (I do my own maintenance) and finding one that hasn't rotted somewhere is a pain. Plus the (IMHO) most beautiful ones - 60s to early 70s - are the most rotten of all, since they didn't start galvanizing the chassis until IIRC 1977.
    * I toyed with the majestic Jaguar E-type - and mind you I still want one - but it's a mechanical disaster AND more often than not, rotten to boot.
    * I toyed with follies like the DeTomaso Pantera (Italian looks, Ford V8 in the back, hard to find under €30k) and the Maserati Merak (€20k worth of magic, when it's not broken down).

What I ended up with was a 1999 BMW 530D Touring. A diesel, and a station wagon. Go ahead, laugh.

But for those out there (I'm mainly looking at Americans, and I especially get to do that because I am one) who still think of diesels as slow and boring, think again: it's a 7.7 second-to-60MPH wagon with a wall of torque that comes out of nowhere at 2000RPM and pushes you well past the speed limit if you're not careful. I've had it on the 'bahn and I still have not found the top end, because I get scared over ~140MPH. But equally importantly it still manages about 36MPG (U.S.) which is damn important over here in expensive fuel land, AND you can fit about 3% of a 1960s Dutch mainframe in the back and still have room for your bags, random crap, toolset and two passengers -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/theodric/3911122436/in/photostream/ Try doing that in a Porsche :twisted:
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Might this be relevant?

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5795&start=30

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Your're sure that your /usr/lib/terminfo/* is whole and uncorrupted? Mine (6.5.30) has these files:

Code:
./5
./5/5051
./a
./a/arpanet
./d
./d/dialup
./d/dumb
./d/dtterm
./e
./e/ethernet
./i
./i/ibm-pc
./i/ibm5051
./i/iris40
./i/ibmpc
./i/iris
./i/iris-ansi
./i/iris-ansi-24
./i/iris-ansi-24-net
./i/iris-ansi-66
./i/iris-ansi-66-net
./i/iris-ansi-net
./i/iris-tp
./i/iris-color
./n
./n/net
./n/network
./u
./u/unknown
./v
./v/visual
./v/visual50
./v/vs100
./v/vs100s
./v/vt100-am
./v/vt100-bot-s
./v/vt100-nam-w
./v/vt100-s-top
./v/vt100-top-s
./v/vt100-w-am
./v/vt100-w-nav
./v/v50am
./v/vi200
./v/vi200-f
./v/vi200-ic
./v/vi200-rv
./v/vi200-rv-ic
./v/vi300
./v/vi300-aw
./v/vi300-rv
./v/vi300-ss
./v/vi50
./v/vi550
./v/vt100
./v/vt100-nam
./v/vt100-nav
./v/vt100-nav-w
./v/vt100-np
./v/vt100-s
./v/vt100-s-bot
./v/vt100-w
./v/vt100-w-nam
./v/vt100am
./v/vt100nam
./v/vt100s
./v/vt100w
./v/vt125
./v/vt132
./v/vt220
./v/vt50
./v/vt50h
./v/vt52
./w
./w/wy-50
./w/wy50
./w/wyse-50
./w/wsiris
./w/wsiris24
./w/wyse50
./x
./x/xterm
./x/xterms
./x/xwsh
./s
./s/screen
./s/screen-bce
./s/screen-s


Are the permissions set such that tset can access the terminfo files that are there? 444 is standard.

I realise it's a really lame suggestion but have you considered running an xfs_repair on the root fs, just in case something got crapped up there? It's certainly unusual to have this sort of thing happen all by itself.

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I realise that's possibly not much help in your current situation but a) do you have autofs installed and b) have you tried it? (cd /hosts/<hostname_of_exporting_system>/<export>

I had *all* kinds of weird issues - including ones like these - getting a Linux (or OSX, or Solaris, or Debian/kFreeBSD, or a NetApp filer) box to export in a way that pleased my IRIX installs, but what I discovered is that even when my (otherwise working on other systems) NFS exports failed to mount manually under IRIX, autofs would pick them up without a single complaint. I now no longer bother manually mounting NFS shares, except from my Ubuntu 8.10 box running nfs-kernel-server, which IRIX seems to accept as one of its own. Maybe it's because I installed MaXX on it :D

FWIW, here's my /etc/exports from the Ubuntu box:

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# /etc/exports: the access control list for filesystems which may be exported
#      to NFS clients.  See exports(5).
#
# Example for NFSv2 and NFSv3:
/irix      10.10.10.0/24(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check) 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)
/500g      10.10.10.0/24(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check) 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)
/media/disk   10.10.10.0/24(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check) 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)
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marmotta wrote: with editing fstab my nfs net work correctly but remain the question why gui tools (system preference, add remote resource ecc) not view my shares, and what does the message "mount:server does not provide support for any security mode, will use
default even if it violates RFC 2623" ????? when i launch the mount command...


No idea , but the one hit on Google for that error is of another person who got that error message on IRIX but it *did* work.
http://www.mombu.com/gnu_linux/gentoo/t ... 81139.html

If you want a random guess, maybe it's that you're adding options into fstab that the GUI tools don't?
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Stop tempting me!! It'd end up living in my car next to the NetApp boxes and the ASR-33 teletype that's been in there since I was in Germany two months ago :) I really need to move into a house with a ground floor.
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Not mine. I spotted this on a list I subscribe to and didn't see it on the first several pages of Hardware For Sale/Trade so I'm passing it along. Curse my not having a garage to put this in! e-mail address inline, obscured, below.


Message: 4
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 21:12:36 +0100
From: Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at Up(remove.me)date dot UU dot SE>
Subject: Free SGI Onyx2 in Link?ping Sweden
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Hi

This is a longshot, if you can make it to Linköping with a truck within
two weeks, I can probably hook you up with 4 racks worth of SGI Onyx2.

/Pontus.
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Pontus wrote: I've announced this to a few swedish nekochan members before, but interest was low.


That's too bad, but I suppose that racks require space many people (like me) don't have! I'd love to have a couple of racks of Onyx2 to play with, regardless of spec...

Best of luck finding a home for as much as possible!
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Jurassic Park! :) It also got me started on UNIX. I mean, ffs, if that stupid girl could run UNIX then so could I (the logic of an 11-year-old, enjoy)! Who says misogyny never created anything worthwhile?

I ran Linux for a while in the 90s, loved the stability vs. Windows but found it poorly-integrated. I got my first SGI in '98, an Indigo2 Solid Impact (R4400SC 250MHz) with 128MB RAM and a 2GB HDD, and I adored it and its demos and Blender and the frickin' awesome Indigo Magic environment until I somehow managed to rm -rf something I shouldn't have-- and I didn't have OS media so that put it out of commission until I was able to purchase a copy of IRIX, over a year later. It was my primary system for my first two years of college, but when I left the US to study abroad it was too heavy to bring and so it now sleeps in my parents' attic. Five years after running away to Europe, I realised I'm not going back and I finally bought an O2 - now chipped to 600MHz - and then a Fuel, and who knows what other iron the future may hold?
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Hear, hear. Curious what your ballpark might be.
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I'm curious how you've gotten on here-- or is no news an indication of no change?
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::drool::

(Sorry, I have nothing more intelligent to add to this conversation than spittle...I am tempted to blow my savings and put off fixing my car, tho)
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PM sent on the off-chance that anything is left
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sgifanatic wrote: What do you think a reasonable price would be for an entire case with faceplate, backplate and the body?


theodric takes careful aim at his foot....

I reckon it would be worth about €400-500 to me as a bare case-- less would be awesome (and could well lead to me ordering two), while more would require careful consideration. I've paid €200 for a normal EATX desktop case, so for a low-volume custom job a greater expense is certainly justified. That said, I have no idea of your total costs to produce-- if you can knock off a whole case for a fiver I think I'd prefer to cut into your profit margin a bit more :)
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I need the space in my garage back since I'll shortly have to fit two cars in there, so I'm offering my Tandems to any takers. It's two K200s, a disk array, some spare disks, some DATs, no DATs, a terminal or two, and a bunch of spare cards and PSUs.

They are located in the Dutch province of Noord-Holland, measure 76x102x53cm, weigh a lot (two strong people can lift them), and are on wheels that are just about but not quite good enough to get them easily on a trailer. They can be shipped...if you arrange everything :) I have a 2-ton shop crane and a handtruck, and I'm willing to help you with loading. I brought them home one-at-a-time in the back of my old BMW 5-series wagon, but had to take the front door off the cabinets to fit them in.

They previously served (ha!) at the Dutch stock exchange 'NYSE Euronext' and came to me as a purchase from someone who worked there when they were decommissioned and obtained them through official channels. I don't know a whole lot about them, but I think they're MIPS-based and have a lot of CPUs. Apparently each CPU runs its own copy of the OS, and all the instances talk to each other over some internal network thingy. The mind boggles. Docs are available from HP.

I've listed them on Marktplaats (a Dutch Craigslisty sort of thing), and have put out a similar blast on cctalk as well. I don't expect a lot of takers, but I'm hoping I can find someone who cares, or they may end up recycled. There seem to be no shortage of people in the Netherlands who are happy to recycle them for me :-/

Photos are here: http://500px.com/theodric
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They've found a home.
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Lol, I can't believe so many people got into this! I built it back in Dec and left it running on my O2 600Mhz-- 0.21Kh, btw.

[proof: Twitter post https://twitter.com/theodric/statuses/411106063048798208 ]
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Not mine, posted on a Dutch classifieds site:
http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/computers-e ... delen.html

The dude says he'll trade for a crate of Duvel (a decent beer). Would be a shame if they went to the dump, but I have a hard time imagining someone wanting 18 of them...
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Thanks, Mike! I appreciate when people are willing to make the effort to bring new software to our obscure little Unix platform (and I'm glad my Fuel could do a good deed, even if the hard drive failed the first time around :) )
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