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Hi folks,

I've acquired another fuel, this time it has 500Mhz PIMM, 2GB RAM and of course just a V10.

Couple things I noticed when I first powered it up:

L1 didn't give me any echo to any commands - it would just respond "ok", or print expected output - ie, there was no usual 001a01-L1> prompt

Nothing shows up on Serial port1 - everything goes onto L1 port, so after booting, I had to press CTRL-D to get into PROM - which is fine by me.

I noticed that PROM doesn't really hold settings (at least not all of them), settings like netaddr would last through soft reset, but settings like srvaddr, tapedevice, fxaddr, notape (all the standard for installation) wouldn't last (of course all of them were with -p ).

I was able to start FX remotely, partition my drive etc, but then, I started SASH, and when I wrote "install" it would throw a TLB error at me:

Code:
A 000: *** TLB Refill Exception on node 0
A 000: *** EPC: 0xc00000001fc44de4 (0xc00000001fc44de4)
A 000: *** Press ENTER to continue.


(it may not be exactly the address I got - my scrollback went up so I stole it from someone else).

Well, I thought, maybe that's because my console was set to g , I've changed it to d (it wouldn't last reboot), and just in case - plugged a keyboard and a mouse in - who knows, maybe it's as picky as an O2.

That didn't help.

So then I went into L1 again, reset nvram, checked flash status etc. And I finally got the ol'good L1 prompt - but then, it won't boot again anymore, all I get is this:

Code:
escaping to L1 system controller
001a01-L1>power up

returning to console mode  001a01 console, <CTRL_T> to escape to L1
Starting PROM Boot process


IP35 PROM SGI Version 6.180  built 01:50:56 PM Nov 18, 2003
Running in DDR mode
Testing/Initializing memory ...............             DONE
Copying PROM code to memory ...............             DONE
Discovering local IO ......................             DONE
Discovering NUMAlink connectivity .........
Local hub NUMAlink is down.
*** Local network link down
DONE
Found 1 objects (1 hubs, 0 routers) in 5895 usec
Waiting for peers to complete discovery....             DONE
No other nodes present; becoming global master
Global master is /hw/rack/001/bay/01
Intializing any CPUless nodes..............             DONE
Checking partitioning information .........             DONE
No other nodes present; becoming partition master
Loading BASEIO prom .......................             DONE

BASEIO PROM Monitor SGI Version 6.180  built 01:47:37 PM Nov 18, 2003 (BE64)
1 CPUs on 1 nodes found.

NVRAM checksum is incorrect: reinitializing.
Automatic update of PROM environment disabled

PS/2 Keyboard & Mouse diagnostics
Found mouse on port 0
Found keyboard on port 1
PS/2 Keyboard & Mouse diagnostics passed

Graphics diagnostics

Odyssey board #0 found on nasid 0
Running Odyssey xtalk sanity diag...
Board version 1 - Buzz revision 2B
On board sdram size: 32 Mb
Cas latency: CAS 3
2 banks by sdram module
Running Odyssey Buzz registers diag...
Device passed diagnostics

Installing PROM Device drivers ............
Base I/O Ethernet set to /dev/ethernet/ef0
Installing Graphics Console...
graphics install: searching for pipe 0

Walking SCSI Adapter 0, (pci id 1)
1- 2- 3- 4- 5- 6- 7- 8- 9- 10- 11- 12- 13- 14- 15- = 0 device(s)


Walking SCSI Adapter 1, (pci id 1)
1- 2- 3- 4- 5- 6- 7- 8- 9- 10- 11- 12- 13- 14- 15- = 0 device(s)

Initializing PROM Device drivers ..........             DONE



I believe it should start going into hardware discovery - but it freezes at this point...

Some info from L1:

Code:
001a01-L1>flash status
Flash image B currently booted

Image      Status        Revision    Built
-----   -------------   ----------   -----
A     valid           1.22.6       08/07/2003 12:56:31
B     user default    1.22.6       08/07/2003 12:56:31
001a01-L1>


001a01-L1>serial all

Data                            Location      Value
------------------------------  ------------  --------
Local System Serial Number      EEPROM        08:00:69:10:26:C9
Local Brick Serial Number       EEPROM        MZL370
Reference Brick Serial Number   NVRAM         MZL370


EEPROM      Product Name    Serial      Part Number           Rev  T/W
----------  --------------  ----------  --------------------  ---  ------
NODE        IP34            MZL370      030_1707_003          M    00
MAC         MAC ADDRESS     NA          NA                    NA   NA
PIMM        IP34PIMM        MEF168      030_1708_002          J    00
XIO         ASTODYB         MFB185      030_1725_001          F    00

EEPROM     JEDEC-SPD Info           Part Number        Rev Speed  SGI
---------- ------------------------ ------------------ ---- ------ --------
DIMM 0     CE0000000000000027F30900 M3 47L6510BT0-CA0   0B   10.0  N/A
DIMM 2     CE0000000000000028C4B801 M3 47L6510BT0-CA0   0B   10.0  N/A
DIMM 1     CE0000000000000027FA0900 M3 47L6510BT0-CA0   0B   10.0  N/A
DIMM 3     CE0000000000000028C2B801 M3 47L6510BT0-CA0   0B   10.0  N/A

001a01-L1>



001a01-L1>env
Environmental monitoring is enabled and running.

Description    State       Warning Limits     Fault Limits       Current
-------------- ----------  -----------------  -----------------  -------
12V    Enabled  10%  10.80/ 13.20  20%   9.60/ 14.40   12.06
12V IO    Enabled  10%  10.80/ 13.20  20%   9.60/ 14.40   12.12
5V    Enabled  10%   4.50/  5.50  20%   4.00/  6.00    5.07
3.3V    Enabled  10%   2.97/  3.63  20%   2.64/  3.96    3.32
2.5V    Enabled  10%   2.25/  2.75  20%   2.00/  3.00    2.46
1.5V    Enabled  10%   1.35/  1.65  20%   1.20/  1.80    1.47
5V aux    Enabled  10%   4.50/  5.50  20%   4.00/  6.00    5.10
3.3V aux    Enabled  10%   2.97/  3.63  20%   2.64/  3.96    3.27
PIMM0 12V bias    Enabled  10%  10.80/ 13.20  20%   9.60/ 14.40   12.12
Fuel SRAM    Enabled  10%   2.25/  2.75  20%   2.00/  3.00    2.54
Fuel CPU    Enabled  10%   1.44/  1.76  20%   1.28/  1.92    1.61
PIMM0 1.5V    Enabled  10%   1.35/  1.65  20%   1.20/  1.80    1.49
PIMM0 3.3V aux    Enabled  10%   2.97/  3.63  20%   2.64/  3.96    3.27
PIMM0 5V aux    Enabled  10%   4.50/  5.50  20%   4.00/  6.00    5.10
XIO 12V bias    Enabled  10%  10.80/ 13.20  20%   9.60/ 14.40   12.00
XIO 5V    Enabled  10%   4.50/  5.50  20%   4.00/  6.00    5.07
XIO 2.5V    Enabled  10%   2.25/  2.75  20%   2.00/  3.00    2.47
XIO 3.3V aux    Enabled  10%   2.97/  3.63  20%   2.64/  3.96    3.30

Description    State       Warning RPM  Current RPM
-------------- ----------  -----------  -----------
FAN 0  EXHAUST    Enabled          920         1357
FAN 1       HD    Enabled         1560         2671
FAN 2      PCI    Enabled         1120         1790
FAN 3    XIO 1    Enabled         1600         2200
FAN 4    XIO 2    Enabled         1600         2157
FAN 5       PS    Enabled         1600         2531

Advisory   Critical   Fault      Current
Description    State       Temp       Temp       Temp       Temp
-------------- ----------  ---------  ---------  ---------  ---------
NODE 0            Enabled   60C/140F   65C/149F   70C/158F   46C/114F
NODE 1            Enabled   60C/140F   65C/149F   70C/158F   44C/111F
NODE 2            Enabled   60C/140F   65C/149F   70C/158F   29C/ 84F
PIMM              Enabled   60C/140F   65C/149F   70C/158F   60C/140F
ODYSSEY           Enabled   60C/140F   65C/149F   70C/158F   35C/ 95F
BEDROCK           Enabled   70C/158F   75C/167F   80C/176F   54C/129F

001a01-L1>





I did notice it says that NVRAM checksum is invalid, I wonder how much is that related...

Any ideas ?

I do have another Fuel, and I might be able to try and swap the timekeeper chips (dallas and ST), but I wonder if anything else could be done to find out what's going on....

Cheers

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[click for links to hinv] JP: [ :O200: :Fuel: :Octane2: :Octane: :O2: :Indy: :Indy: ] PL: [ :Fuel: :O2: :O2+: :Indy: ]
For Sale: 2*O200 M/B, 2*O200 PSU, 6*256MB O200 RAM, 2*O200 SCSI Backplane, 2*O200 MSC, DMediaPro DM-2 ( 030-1653-002 Rev. H , XT-DIGVID) with Octane XIO pull (Origin pull optionally available)
Hmm, interesting, after unplugging the kbd and mouse it goes through (but it worked with them plugged until I reset the L1)...

So I'm getting the same TLB problem:

Code:
>> setenv netaddr 192.168.4.45
>> setenv srvaddr 192.168.4.100
>> setenv notape 1
>> setenv tapedevice bootp()192.168.4.100:/IRIX/IRIX6.5.30/cd1/dist/sa
>> boot -f $tapedevice(sash64)
Obtaining /IRIX/IRIX6.5.30/cd1/dist/sa(sash64) from server 192.168.4.100
896+111764+16853+3848 entry: 0xa8000000012a6ee4
Standalone Shell SGI Version 6.5 ARCS   Jul 20, 2006 (64 Bit)
sash: install
A 000 001c01:
A 000 001c01: *** TLB Refill Exception on node 0
A 000 001c01: *** EPC: 0xa80000000129c874 (0xa80000000129c874)
A 000 001c01: *** Press ENTER to continue.
A 000 001c01: POD SysCt Unc> why
A 000 001c01:  EPC    : 0xa80000000129c874 (0xa80000000129c874)
A 000 001c01:  ERREPC : 0x28142aebadf406f6 (0x28142aebadf406f6)
A 000 001c01:  CACERR : 0x000000009e044ac6
A 000 001c01:  Status : 0x0000000024407c80
A 000 001c01:  BadVA  : 0x0000000000000038 (+0x38)
A 000 001c01:  RA     : 0xa80000000129a49c (0xa80000000129a49c)
A 000 001c01:  SP     : 0xa8000000012fe870
A 000 001c01:  A0     : 0xa8000000012a9988
A 000 001c01:  Cause  : 0x0000000000008008 (INT:8------- <Load TLB Miss>)
A 000 001c01:  Reason : 244 (Unexpected TLB Refill Exception.)
A 000 001c01:  POD mode was called from: 0xc00000001fc01de8 (0xc00000001fc01de8)
A 000 001c01: POD SysCt Unc>


I wonder if this could be bad RAM (but it does pass the initial test).

EDIT, I tried removing the RAM and using only first bank, and again using only second bank - no luck. but I haven't tried using another RAM modules

EDIT 2, I tried with another (working) RAM, and another PIMM (also working, 600MHz) - no luck. Must be the Motherboard - Now the question is, could something be really broken, or maybe it's related to bad NVRAM...

EDIT 3, Swapping the Dallas chip didn't help (Still seeing that NVRAM checksum error), will try swapping the ST tomorrow (if even makes sense, can't recall which chip is the NVRAM or is it even replaceable)..


Thanks

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[click for links to hinv] JP: [ :O200: :Fuel: :Octane2: :Octane: :O2: :Indy: :Indy: ] PL: [ :Fuel: :O2: :O2+: :Indy: ]
For Sale: 2*O200 M/B, 2*O200 PSU, 6*256MB O200 RAM, 2*O200 SCSI Backplane, 2*O200 MSC, DMediaPro DM-2 ( 030-1653-002 Rev. H , XT-DIGVID) with Octane XIO pull (Origin pull optionally available)
I did resetenv a couple times, couldn't see anything suspicious with any variables - better yet, the ones I have set disappear (I use -p of course), including console=d resetting to g at every reboot or so.
I'm far away to the west of Tokyo without access to the machine, so I won't be pursuing this for a couple more weeks.

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[click for links to hinv] JP: [ :O200: :Fuel: :Octane2: :Octane: :O2: :Indy: :Indy: ] PL: [ :Fuel: :O2: :O2+: :Indy: ]
For Sale: 2*O200 M/B, 2*O200 PSU, 6*256MB O200 RAM, 2*O200 SCSI Backplane, 2*O200 MSC, DMediaPro DM-2 ( 030-1653-002 Rev. H , XT-DIGVID) with Octane XIO pull (Origin pull optionally available)
Titox wrote: Surprised with the fast delivery, last time I waited near two months for a ps2 console!!!

Thanks a lot!
20121221_202317.jpg


Cheers, glad it arrived so fast.
[click for links to hinv] JP: :Fuel: | :O2: | :Indy: || PL: [ :Fuel: :O2: :O2+: :Indy: ]
<joke>
afair, two v12's mean the second one is upside-down, you may need some rotation tool or a because of that ;-)
</joke>

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[click for links to hinv] JP: [ :O200: :Fuel: :Octane2: :Octane: :O2: :Indy: :Indy: ] PL: [ :Fuel: :O2: :O2+: :Indy: ]
For Sale: 2*O200 M/B, 2*O200 PSU, 6*256MB O200 RAM, 2*O200 SCSI Backplane, 2*O200 MSC, DMediaPro DM-2 ( 030-1653-002 Rev. H , XT-DIGVID) with Octane XIO pull (Origin pull optionally available)
Not mine, but since I stumbled upon those, and recall somebody was looking for Crimson parts posting it here:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SGI-Silicon-Graphics-IO3B-for-Crimson-Power-Series-more-/300824754856?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item460a8d7aa8

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SGI-Silicon-Graphics-GM3-for-Crimson-Power-Series-more-/290822233546?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43b65b1dca

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SGI-Silicon-Graphics-Parallel-Port-board-for-Crimson-Power-Series-more-/290822797490?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43b663b8b2

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SGI-Silicon-Graphics-DG1-board-w-EVI-NTSC-video-board-Crimson-Power-Series-/290822232903?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43b65b1b47

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SGI-Silicon-Graphics-front-panel-with-video-cables-and-more-Crimson-Power-Series-/300824755708?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item460a8d7dfc

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SGI-Silicon-Graphics-DG1-board-w-bridge-board-video-cable-Crimson-Power-Series-/300824755348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item460a8d7c94

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[click for links to hinv] JP: [ :O200: :Fuel: :Octane2: :Octane: :O2: :Indy: :Indy: ] PL: [ :Fuel: :O2: :O2+: :Indy: ]
For Sale: 2*O200 M/B, 2*O200 PSU, 6*256MB O200 RAM, 2*O200 SCSI Backplane, 2*O200 MSC, DMediaPro DM-2 ( 030-1653-002 Rev. H , XT-DIGVID) with Octane XIO pull (Origin pull optionally available)
smj wrote:
Short answer -- if you're already adding another, you might as well surrender now and get both, you're clearly doomed. ;)


SAQ wrote:
You'll wind up keeping both.


I couldn't agree more,
I started with an Octane2 (with broken XBOW that cause occassional freezing) whilst waiting for my Fuel,
then got another Octane2, O2, couple Indy's etc.
Now I have 10-some machines.

"And I thought it will not be easy to source SGI anymore :) "

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[click for links to hinv] JP: [ :O200: :Fuel: :Octane2: :Octane: :O2: :Indy: :Indy: ] PL: [ :Fuel: :O2: :O2+: :Indy: ]
For Sale: 2*O200 M/B, 2*O200 PSU, 6*256MB O200 RAM, 2*O200 SCSI Backplane, 2*O200 MSC, DMediaPro DM-2 ( 030-1653-002 Rev. H , XT-DIGVID) with Octane XIO pull (Origin pull optionally available)
vishnu wrote:
I though some of you might get a kick out of how obsessively well organized our customers at work insist that our wire runs be... 8-)


That's probably because they didn't want electrons falling out of their path on sharp corners :P
(this is only partially a joke, there exists a method of eavesdropping on multimode fiber links by bending it and catching electrons that didn't make it)

Cheers

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[click for links to hinv] JP: [ :O200: :Fuel: :Octane2: :Octane: :O2: :Indy: :Indy: ] PL: [ :Fuel: :O2: :O2+: :Indy: ]
For Sale: 2*O200 M/B, 2*O200 PSU, 6*256MB O200 RAM, 2*O200 SCSI Backplane, 2*O200 MSC, DMediaPro DM-2 ( 030-1653-002 Rev. H , XT-DIGVID) with Octane XIO pull (Origin pull optionally available)
My BENQ is slowly nearing its end of life, there's a high chance my tweaking of Octane's VFO broke something internally, and what happens is:
after a while of use, I get ripped font (not only edges on the screen, as if it was going a tad out of sync,
this happens on my Octane, Fuel and a MAC (over 3 different ports - DSUB, DVI, HDMI respectively), so it's definitely monitor issue.
I'm considering replacing it with a new one, and it turns out that many new models gave up on supporting SOG (chearper iiyama's for example only support separate sync),
and I see no point buying sync splitter.

Has anybody had any recent buying experience with IPS or at least LED panels that worked well with SGI ?

Cheers.

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[click for links to hinv] JP: [ :O200: :Fuel: :Octane2: :Octane: :O2: :Indy: :Indy: ] PL: [ :Fuel: :O2: :O2+: :Indy: ]
For Sale: 2*O200 M/B, 2*O200 PSU, 6*256MB O200 RAM, 2*O200 SCSI Backplane, 2*O200 MSC, DMediaPro DM-2 ( 030-1653-002 Rev. H , XT-DIGVID) with Octane XIO pull (Origin pull optionally available)
The best advice I can give you - brace up with patience and wait.
You will likely find someone who lives nearby, and either is willing to give some SGI away, or asks reasonable(low) price for them.

Cheers.
[click for links to hinv] JP: :Fuel: | :O2: | :Indy: || PL: [ :Fuel: :O2: :O2+: :Indy: ]
hamei wrote:
ShadeOfBlue wrote:
I have a cheap $2 one from China in my Fuel and it works great.

Mine has a resistor. That's probably why it was $3 :P


$1 for a resistor, that's a ripoff ! ;)

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[click for links to hinv] JP: [ :O200: :Fuel: :Octane2: :Octane: :O2: :Indy: :Indy: ] PL: [ :Fuel: :O2: :O2+: :Indy: ]
For Sale: 2*O200 M/B, 2*O200 PSU, 6*256MB O200 RAM, 2*O200 SCSI Backplane, 2*O200 MSC, DMediaPro DM-2 ( 030-1653-002 Rev. H , XT-DIGVID) with Octane XIO pull (Origin pull optionally available)
bitcpy wrote:
Yesterday, I found 2 of the Cheetah 15k drives and 2 Atlas II drives which are on order and should be arriving in a few days. Once those arrive I can finally start to setup the computer and install IRIX on it.


Careful on the models, some drives are "more" server-oriented and have features that make deskside installation unpleasant (unles you enjoy screeching noise every couple seconds):

http://forums.nekochan.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16726200

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[click for links to hinv] JP: [ :O200: :Fuel: :Octane2: :Octane: :O2: :Indy: :Indy: ] PL: [ :Fuel: :O2: :O2+: :Indy: ]
For Sale: 2*O200 M/B, 2*O200 PSU, 6*256MB O200 RAM, 2*O200 SCSI Backplane, 2*O200 MSC, DMediaPro DM-2 ( 030-1653-002 Rev. H , XT-DIGVID) with Octane XIO pull (Origin pull optionally available)
Thanks guys for information.
I think I'll settle on Dell 2410 - I can't resist lots of ports (I need DSUB,DVI,HDMI at the very least).

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[click for links to hinv] JP: [ :O200: :Fuel: :Octane2: :Octane: :O2: :Indy: :Indy: ] PL: [ :Fuel: :O2: :O2+: :Indy: ]
For Sale: 2*O200 M/B, 2*O200 PSU, 6*256MB O200 RAM, 2*O200 SCSI Backplane, 2*O200 MSC, DMediaPro DM-2 ( 030-1653-002 Rev. H , XT-DIGVID) with Octane XIO pull (Origin pull optionally available)
Titox wrote:
I'm using a DellU2412M with great results with Octane and Fuel. VGA + DVI + DisplayPort for cheap...


Do you have any experience with HDMI -> DisplayPort adapters ?

I'm considering 2412 as an alternative to 2410 (in case I can't find it), and my MBP and RaspberryPI need HDMI, so adapter would be my only chance (DVI will be taken by Fuel).


tingo wrote:
Hmm, no BenQ monitors on that list. Yet my two BenQ monitors claim to support SOG ("Composite SYNC on green" as the specifications state). I have requested an account and will update the list if my reqest gets approved. :-)


I have E2200HD , VFO here: http://forums.nekochan.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16725900&p=7344708#p7344708

Works via DVI on Fuel, and DSUB on Octane,O2 and Indy.

Thing is - I *suspect*, that my BENQ panel broke because of my extensive VFO experiments, but I have no evidence that this is true.

Thanks

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[click for links to hinv] JP: [ :O200: :Fuel: :Octane2: :Octane: :O2: :Indy: :Indy: ] PL: [ :Fuel: :O2: :O2+: :Indy: ]
For Sale: 2*O200 M/B, 2*O200 PSU, 6*256MB O200 RAM, 2*O200 SCSI Backplane, 2*O200 MSC, DMediaPro DM-2 ( 030-1653-002 Rev. H , XT-DIGVID) with Octane XIO pull (Origin pull optionally available)
tingo wrote:
Perhaps you should add it to the list on the wiki then?


Done.

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[click for links to hinv] JP: [ :O200: :Fuel: :Octane2: :Octane: :O2: :Indy: :Indy: ] PL: [ :Fuel: :O2: :O2+: :Indy: ]
For Sale: 2*O200 M/B, 2*O200 PSU, 6*256MB O200 RAM, 2*O200 SCSI Backplane, 2*O200 MSC, DMediaPro DM-2 ( 030-1653-002 Rev. H , XT-DIGVID) with Octane XIO pull (Origin pull optionally available)
big_mac wrote:
Greetings,

I'm looking for SGI Stickers for a couple of projects of mine, anybody know where one could purchase them? Also in the market for memorabilia items such as key rings, sgi plastic tux, o2 stuff etc..Most stuff is interesting, let me know what you got :)

Cheers


There's some SGI club in Japan who used to make sheets of stickers, I'd have to check on the details and whether it's still possible to source that..

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[click for links to hinv] JP: [ :O200: :Fuel: :Octane2: :Octane: :O2: :Indy: :Indy: ] PL: [ :Fuel: :O2: :O2+: :Indy: ]
For Sale: 2*O200 M/B, 2*O200 PSU, 6*256MB O200 RAM, 2*O200 SCSI Backplane, 2*O200 MSC, DMediaPro DM-2 ( 030-1653-002 Rev. H , XT-DIGVID) with Octane XIO pull (Origin pull optionally available)
I went with Dell U2410f, it arrived today, first impression is good, looks and feels way more sturdy and sophisticated than my benq.
Haven't tried with SGI yet.

EDIT, tried with Fuel, works like a charm, selected default 1920x1200_60p mode and everything looks good.

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For Sale: 2*O200 M/B, 2*O200 PSU, 6*256MB O200 RAM, 2*O200 SCSI Backplane, 2*O200 MSC, DMediaPro DM-2 ( 030-1653-002 Rev. H , XT-DIGVID) with Octane XIO pull (Origin pull optionally available)
I have one that is "partially broken" (messed up XBOW - at random times it freezes, it seems to be associated with high load/IO but there's no proof),
if you want a donor for parts it's free.

Thing is, I'm in Tokyo, not sure how much would that run to ship.

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For Sale: 2*O200 M/B, 2*O200 PSU, 6*256MB O200 RAM, 2*O200 SCSI Backplane, 2*O200 MSC, DMediaPro DM-2 ( 030-1653-002 Rev. H , XT-DIGVID) with Octane XIO pull (Origin pull optionally available)
NCommander wrote:
ClassicHasClass wrote:
Is there any way to get your changesets against -esr10?


I'm pretty sure those changesets are gone, though I do have my original notes I took during the process plus this thread.


Well, I still do have all the stuff you did, let me know if you want it in any form...

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I have the original file I already gave to diegel a while ago, up to you if you want it from him or from me (he might have done some extra work on it meanwhile, I'm not sure).
PM me if you want it, I will most likely create a torrent file and share it this way.

NCommander, this is a dump from the first machine you worked on, before I moved you from O200 to O2 (I think you haven't made any progress since the move)

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Any way we could make it work for all the platforms so that it doesn't have to be Linux-specific ?
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ItsMeOnly wrote:
kubatyszko wrote: Any way we could make it work for all the platforms so that it doesn't have to be Linux-specific ?

As far as I remember the problem was only the licensing agreement with SGI - x86 linux only.


I just wonder whether MaXX still needs to worry about this... but I will leave that to him.
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SAQ wrote: I wouldn't ignore it - legal blackmail can still be highly profitable, even with "dead" products.


In theory, IRIX already qualifies as abandonware, with all the support being discontinued.
But you're right, lawyers are lawyers, you never know, if the "current" SGI decided to go on the windows path again, they might someday end up under sudden need for more lawsuits should they fail ;)

on a sidenote, SGI Japan HQ is in my office building (unrelated to my firm), and I've been seeing real people with SGI badges, this means they are still alive...
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Hi there, since I just moved from Tokyo to London - and I believe the SGI community here is much larger than the Japanese one ;) - anybody up for drinks ?
I'm still working hard on my jet-lag but should be available for a few over the weekend (I have all the weekends and evenings free until 27th of June).

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For Sale: 2*O200 M/B, 2*O200 PSU, 6*256MB O200 RAM, 2*O200 SCSI Backplane, 2*O200 MSC, DMediaPro DM-2 ( 030-1653-002 Rev. H , XT-DIGVID) with Octane XIO pull (Origin pull optionally available)
You haven't seen Japanese folks on Tokyo's subway - or worse - Hong Kong, or even worse - Shanghai...

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dibs on the DDR RAM and both GeForce cards, will get in touch later.

EDIT, picked up the 3 components, big thanks to [[C|-|E]]
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I just checked in my stash, and I only have 73GB (or even 146) SCA but it's the full height, so works with everything but O2...

WIth O2 - pretty much any SCA 80 pin disk will do, but if this is your desktop, you should look for a disk that doesn't make weird squeaking noises (look for example at this post: http://forums.nekochan.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16726200&p=7347281&hilit=fujitsu#p7347183 )

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For Sale: 2*O200 M/B, 2*O200 PSU, 6*256MB O200 RAM, 2*O200 SCSI Backplane, 2*O200 MSC, DMediaPro DM-2 ( 030-1653-002 Rev. H , XT-DIGVID) with Octane XIO pull (Origin pull optionally available)
I have one of those Griffin's (in+out), might give it a try someday...
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if you mean lisp machines - well they were great and I heard some are still in use, but "generic" CPU's picked up so fast and they became obsolete...
if you mean lispm as in Rainer Joswig who is probably one of the very few surviving LISP users - he's alive and well - just active in his own "world".

I can't remember but I think I have tried compiling sbcl or at least ccl a while back - I found the latest version that compiled just fine on IRIX (it was still *very* old), and that's the last thing I recall - since then I had to remove that hard disk because I suspect that was causing my Fuel to crash, might plug it in someday to see what did I get stuck on.

I would also like to have some more recent implementation available.

Cheers
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So I tried my Griffin iMic with no luck - it does show up in hint but doesn't work:

Code: Select all

Iris Audio Processor: USB audio revision 1.0, number -1
USB controller: type OHCI


On the console I get:

Code: Select all

Soundscheme: Ignoring invalid device DefaultOut


And nothing shows up in audio panel either.

That's all for today - won't be spending more time on that, time to insert my sound blaster back.
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Hey guys,

I finally had some time to play with the EEPROM's, V10's and a V12.

I have 2 older rev V10's (the 32MB ones), 3 new rev V10's (the 128MB ones), and one V12 (broken - it boots and works, but anything heavier on the display and it freezes the whole system - doesn't even give me POD).

I carefully inspected the boards, and found 2 chips of interest:

Atmel 24C04 I2C EEPROM

Dallas (maxim) 2505 1-wire (with EEPROM)

Interestingly, the cards have pin headers that correspond to those chips - there's a 8-pin header (near the edge connector) wired into eeprom 1:1, 2:2 ... 8:8 etc. (pin number to pin number, NOT in the same order as the chip itself)
and a 2-pin header wired into dallas chip - here the pins are reversed, 1:2 and 2:1 (other 4 pins on the 6-pin dallas are not connected and not used).

I played *a lot* with eeprom reading and flashing (easy), and even after flashing V12's eeprom onto V10's eeprom - the V10 is still a 32MB V10.

What is very interesting, is that the "l1cmd eeprom" DOES NOT show full eeprom contents, it shows the portion directly AFTER whatever checksum and header there is (skipping the first 8-16 bytes or so),
if the checksum is incorrect, everything will still work, but the l1cmd eeprom won't show anything for that device, and l1cmd serial all will report bad checksum.
* I found it the hard way after I realised that I've overwritten a few bytes due to the way my i2c script worked.

Then, I looked at the dallas and was able to read its ID, but I couldn't read the EPROM contents - likely because of pull-up resistor that's somewhere on the board (and I had to use mine too) - that's the specific of 1wire protocol which uses ground and a single wire for power and signal.
Also, the dallas' eprom is *append-only* and it requires 12V programming pulse (which my super-duper device can't produce), I gave up on trying to read and reflash that.

So I took my soldering iron, and swapped the chips, and unfortunately no luck, 128MB V10 with both chips from V12 is still recognised as a V10 with 32MB RAM.

I even removed the small heatsink hoping to find other ID chips, and tried to remove the big one - but gave up, it's stuck on the chip and I don't want to damage a working card.


It is actually possible that SGI did put different chips but used the same RAM because it might have been what they had in stock that time...

canavan wrote: A broken V12 030_1996_001. If anyone wants to try soldering the eeproms from this board to a 128MB V10, it's available for the cost of shipping - or in exchange for a V12ified V10...


Where do you live and how much would the (cheapest) shipping to Japan cost ?

If yours is really broken, maybe I would be able to experiment a bit more (hard to do it on my working cards ensuring they continue working...).

Cheers
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MrWeedster wrote: The fans ive choosen are noctuas with 1800 rpm.
As i found the environmental specs of the tezro, telling that the warning rpm for the fans are at least 1500 - 1800 rpm, i thought they would be best.
Now i think the tezro dont give full power to them, because in L1 env they show around 1500 rpm.
Is there a way to tell her that she should always give full power to the fans?


Does L1 actually complain the RPM's are too low shutting the machine down ?

Give my experiences with Fuel, it should adjust RPM's as temperatures go higher, so just keep observing L1 and RPM correlation with temperature.

Alternatively you *could* generate constant PWM signal that would always give full RPM... In theory a simple 555 timer circuit would do the job (and work even at 12V which some bigger fans need)
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Hmm, it turns L1 allows to change voltage margin levels, but you can't change RPM warning levels.
Then your options are to get different fan or fake the signal to ensure L1 reads a value within the specs...
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Thanks, it seems it won't be as easy as it was with ATX PSU conversion though.

For a short time I *suspected* that small 8-pin chip in the upper right corner, I was able to read the markings off it with a lot of light and magnifying glass, but I don't think it's relevant.
The chip on the bottom right is likely a signal converter/buffer, so also a no bueno.

Another important point, is that if SGI was really making them the same with "decision" made after manufacturing, they would likely have had a header, and the only 2 headers are what I already mentioned - likely just for serial numbers.

There is a special many-pin header on the bottom side but that I'm not sure about.

Do we have any volunteers willing to take a heatsink off a V10 (ideally the 030-1826-xxx one) ?
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Thanks, Just got around to doing the same on my V10 (which I had to install in place of V12).
Works flawlessly.
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I wouldn't mind getting a couple myself either, and I'm based in Japan...
That $50 shipping quote is pretty insane.
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FYI, Fuel has 5 DS1780 monitoring chips, 3 on the motherboard (one between PCI slots, one near the external connectors, and one near the PSU socket), 1 on the PIMM, and 1 on the V10/V12 - if I recall, it's near the connector header, somewhere near the 1x2 and 2x4 pin headers and the smaller heatsink.
The V10/V12 also has an I2C EEPROM, and they are likely on the same I2C bus (but I do know there's also an I2C multiplexer on the board), so when the board is on (and powered), you might be able to scan the I2C bus and see if the DS1780 responds at all...
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khalidschofield wrote: Right won the PMC-Sierra cpu's. Next need the PROM from Xilinx (XC1765ELS08C) plus the programmer for the PROM. Where do we get the PROM code to download? Does anyone have a number of RM5200 boards to upgrade? I've three in machines.


Programming this PROM shouldn't be too hard, it's a serial chip with very few signals, it doesn't use popular SPI or I2C but it wouldn't take long to figure this out. I have a magical device that talks to anything with any protocol I need. Might buy a few of those chips to experiment.

I'd like to buy a portion of those chips for myself, I do not have any RM5200 boards just yet but when I get some I'd like to convert them myself.

I might also try aiming for even higher CPU - the one ChicagoJoe couldn't finish working on... PROM modification shouldn't be an issue.
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While we're back to this topic, I figured out a neat solution for EPROM.

The stock EPROM is write-once and every time you change the CPU you need a new chip soldered on the board.
It's in 8-pin SOIC package, but the chip itself is also available in 20-pin package (very different pinouts but all the signals are available - this obviously means an adapter board should be made unless someone likes wires).

There are other EPROM's from xilinx available in the same 20-pin package (with the same signals on the same pins) with more features like JTAG (easy flashing and debugging).

In other words with details:

stock EPROM XC1765E - 8-PIN SOIC package
can be substituted with XC1765E in a 20-pin SOIC package (it's useful just in case the small chip wasn't available or discontinued), with adapter board, or stuck somewhere else and wired to the CPU module's 8-pin location.

That can be replaced with XCF02S in a 20-pin SOIC package (same pinout as the 20-pin XC1765E), with an added benefit of easy JTAG programming and most importantly - the chip can be reprogrammed multiple times.

I'm also working on a way to reprogram PROM in Fuel (my Fuel's PROM is broken when it crashed during flashing), I hope to apply the findings to O2 as well. If that works out, the risk of bricking the motherboard with PROM modifications can be significantly reduced - maybe that will let us experiment with those 700+MHz CPU's ?
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Well, not to be picky, but there's a binary in IRIX ( http://nixdoc.net/man-pages/IRIX/flash.1.html ) called flash that flashes the PROM, blame SGI for naming not me ;)
And yes, the EPROM needs to be programmed only once, but with modifications to the CPU modules and experiments that I have in mind - being able to easily reprogram it, would make a huge difference.

vishnu wrote: Deadbugged; glue the IC to the board upside down with 30 gage wires soldered to the pins and run them down to the CPU module's pin pads. Trick I learned in 'Nam... 8-) (Just kidding, everyone deadbugs that way, it's da COOLest!) ;)

Yes, but if you want to get those extra JTAG pins, they need some kind of header, so a breakout board is in order (but indeed the board itself could be deadbugged, albeit not as cool as upside-down chip).
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