The collected works of duck - Page 7

You can always grab one off Ian http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/sgidepot/kybdsmice.html

Older-type Granite PS2 SGI US Keyboard (good condition): 75 UKP (SGI PN 9500900)
Older-type Granite PS2 SGI US Keyboard (fair condition): 65 UKP (SGI PN 9500900)

Is this a known problem? I just upgraded from some previous non-optimized build of firefox 3.0.19 and got this:



I'm not sure if this is from the old or the new

miod wrote:

ClassicHasClass wrote: I *am* looking for the rear ATX shield, though. The disassembled 164LX I bought didn't come with it.

Good luck with that. When I bought my 164LX new, it was nowhere to be found in the box

Ugh. It's really been itching my pedant not having that cover... (No, there wasn't any on the case I got my 164 in either (preowned)).

Maybe we could get some 3d-printed

I'm not too fond of Dell, but sure. Whereabouts in the world are you located? As for price, well, something around €50?

hamei wrote: Given the duck's extremely helpful contributions to anyone running an SGI machine, if I had one I'd be shipping it to him free. Prepaid.

Ach, you're making me blush!

Yup, mine is pretty yellow too (and I have worn a super smooth groove where my left thumb usually sits)

Welcome outside the asylum

vishnu wrote:

zagnut wrote: Well, photo editing would fall into the pro category...not sure about RAID serving for that purpose though.

There's an Irix version of Photoshop 3, ancient but still usable. And any of the Irix versions of Shake are still world class at all aspects of photo editing, not to mention compositing.

I fired up photoshop on my octane the other day and I was pleasantly surprised how clean and usable it was (snappy in fact, nicer than the free copy of ps cc I got when I bought my EOS 6D), though the dpsnx.agent tended to hang occasionally. There's also a lot of convenience missing, you end up having to mouse around a bunch i menus and things (ah, that old-time mac feel). Also I couldn't find a way to get more than one undo level which was mildly amusing.

zagnut wrote: Out of curiosity....should this have the bandwidth capable to stream 1080 HD video at around 25mbps? I understand the type of array will effect that as well, but that aside, will the Octanes components handle that ok?

hamei already outlined why the octane is a terrible choice for a fileserver, but as for data speeds this is not the issue. The random disk I have in my Octane just clocked in some 85MB/s in sequential reads off the disk, and there are gigabit ethernet cards available if you have a PCI shoehorn or -box.

The internal architecture of the octane is fascinating in that regard. There's no traditional mainbus in the octane, but instead it inherited the crossbar architecture from its big brother the Origins. It will happily push up to (IIRC) four bidirectional data streams between any part of the machine to any other part connected to the Xbow at any time. I have some data that the individual stream's guaranteed bandwidth is 1.6GB/s[0][1].

You couldn't realistically do transcoding on it though, which the hip kids tell me they do on their NASes.

Disclaimer: I have a terrible memory, broadly I think I remember correctly, but if I didn't, please correct me.

[0] Yes, byte. Shared between the read and write though, so 800MB/s either way.
[1] The page at http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/octnarch.html claims that the bandwidth is based on the cpu clock rate, so 200MHz * 8 = 1600 MB/s, but I am dubious, wouldn't it rather be the speed of the xbow chip? Perhaps it takes its timing from the cpu.

I always liked the Prism/Altix mazy grille

Edit: Maya...



I think I'll fiddle with this and see if I can't make a new grille background for y'all

jan-jaap wrote:

duck wrote: The random disk I have in my Octane just clocked in some 85MB/s in sequential reads off the disk

The internal SCSI bus of an Octane is UltraWide SCSI, 40MB/s.

Err yes, I know that, my ears are burning. I ran bonnie++ once and didn't even stop to think.

Something must be wrong it, it now claimed 181MB/s sequential reads and 56MB/s sequential writes on a 1GB file.

sgifanatic wrote: I tried to. Couldn't quite get through the first episode... maybe I was distracted. Or maybe it gets better. Does it?

Same here, so much excessive drama really turned me off after a few episodes.

Seems like you've mostly got it. I have suppressed most of my Perl, but this should perhaps give a hint.



Edit: This is probably a terrible abuse of @errors, you should probably check with $#errors instead.

You're inverting the errors test, remove the !.

Hang on, 6.4 doesn't require the root password on single user, does it? IIRC that in some minor release of 6.5

Excellent, now back up everything in /var/flexlm/

I'm not sure if anyone here is interested, but since I can now afford it, I'm building a bike (again)...

https://goo.gl/photos/mASGuGM827T9aREQA

ivelegacy wrote: I love race bicycles by Bianchi , I have an old (1991) Bianchi Vento 605,12 Kg of steel frame, thin spoke wheels, cranks, brakes and derailleur made by Campagnolo, used to go to the lake every day. 80Km round trip.

I have recently written a letter to santa claus
- Dear, a new Bianchi Cento Strade under the tree.
Aluminum frame, no more than 6 Kg -

Neato.

ivelegacy wrote: what is the english of this part ? crank ?

what are these tapes used for ? where have you bought them ?

I'm not too hot about just copying my photos, though for the forum I suppose I don't mind much. You could've just linked them and saved neko some drive space.

The first photo is a crank, yes, or crank arm. It's the drive-side portion of the formerly Truvativ now SRAM Omnium "GXP" external bearing crankset. Very smooth, and stupidly easy to install/maintain. Not quite as hot as the RaceFace X-type that they copied, but near enough and specially designed for single speed.

The second photo is a bunch rolls of cotton handlebar tape. Can't have enough of those. I prefer cotton to the foam stuff people usually use because it leaves the handlebar thinner and less "slimy", though naturally it reduces the shock absorption. Gloves are kind of a must if you plan to go further than the shop. I got those from http://www.singlespeedshop.de/ , a great shop for my kind of bicycling.
Some day maybe I'll try cork, but that just seems a little too retro-fantastic.

My plan is to put a porteur rack on the front of this one, and if I can manage it fenders, but even with the wide surly frame I may have to put smaller tires on it for that. The 32c marathons I got on now are a bit too fat. I already have a pretty aggressive (and pink) fuji feather, so this was supposed to be an every day work bike type of thing.

I had it out for a test-fit on the yard before cutting the steering tube, and it seems to run beautifully, tomorrow I'll slap some tape on the handlebar and take it for a real spin

ivelegacy wrote:

duck wrote: You could've just linked them and saved neko some drive space

emm, it's a link, [ img ] your link [ /img ]

Oh, sorry.

ivelegacy wrote: I am going to order a few cotton handlebar tapes, thank you for the tips, my bicycle really needs them (worn-out)

The rolls are long enough for about one side, so for each bike, get two (they're sold individually). You can also do fun stuff like "harlequin" wrap with these.

Here's me practicing on a broom handle: https://goo.gl/photos/SKpxxMgtbJZYswbz7

And here it is, in the wild

zagnut wrote: Nice! Is that a fixie (single speed)?

Yep, fixed. I kinda got bit by the bug and tried it with my pink Fuji Feather and liked it a lot so this one became fixed too.

zagnut wrote: I'd like to build a carbon fiber frame mountain bike for my Urban Detroit riding. Our roads are very rough here.

Would like a hardtail (no rear suspension), with a suspension / shock absorber fork in front. I found some very cheap carbon fiber frames on eBay that would work well. I have seen reviews of these cheap carbon frames, and they seem very strong and well made. I'd spend $300-$400 USD for one of these frames. I won't be jumping from large heights, so one of these frames should hold up nicely. Unfortunately, I have more important financial obligations at this time.

I like your bike....looks good!

Thanks a lot!

The large tires on this one (32mm) is a pretty direct response to the deteriorated state of the finnish road network, with no money for repairs in sight. It's much better than the 23mm on the fuji... I can ride on gravel!

As for carbon fiber, I don't know if I'd trust it yet... But I haven't ridden any anyway, so I can't judge. The price seems on par with good steel frames though. Do you have a link to the ebay frame? I won't bid, promise

The first bike I built was in fact a hardtail mountain bike. It was fun to ride, but steel frame, and heavy Marzocchi fork made it unwieldy at 20kg... It's been rotting on my balcony for many a year now. Sad, but for a long while I didn't have the money to keep it in repair (expensive parts... Mavic rims, Hope hubs & headset & 4-piston hydraulic brakes, RaceFace bars & stem & x-type cranks, SRAM X.9 derailleur & shifter. All in red/black. Quite silly, in fact.) Might be fun to refurbish it and sell it.

Yup, this is definitely NOT a touring bike... There aren't any braze-on at all on the fork so I'll have to invent something to hook up the planned porteur rack on the wheel axis. I know there are P-clips and the like that hang onto the fork legs, but that's just so ugly and I suspect quite weak too.

My understanding is that SRM is for Unix and VMS while ARCS boots NT. Some firmwares include both, you just have to flip modes. So as long as an appropriate firmware is available, there's no real difference?

Not too sure though, please verify this independently, but if noone else steps up with better info perhaps this gives you some leads to start looking.

The 'xfs service' you saw may have been the x font server. Just sayin' The only linux install I have is a debian virtual machine that does have an xfs module installed (it's pretty much default), so perhaps you have to modprobe it or however you do it these days.

ClassicHasClass wrote:

duck wrote: My understanding is that SRM is for Unix and VMS while ARCS boots NT. Some firmwares include both, you just have to flip modes. So as long as an appropriate firmware is available, there's no real difference?

Not too sure though, please verify this independently, but if noone else steps up with better info perhaps this gives you some leads to start looking.

That is exactly right.

Note that some lower-spec machines can only be in one mode at a time and must be reflashed to switch; my 164LX is one of these. Since it exists to run Tru64, it runs the SRM console. Linux can also boot on the ARCS console, but most everything else needs SRM.

A-ha, þe olde noodle pulls through for once

I had a vague niggling that ARCS could boot unix too, but that was linux then.

miod wrote:

ClassicHasClass wrote: Right. NetBSD, Tru64, VMS, etc., need SRM. Only Linux, it seems, can tolerate ARCS.

By ARCS, I suppose you mean `AlphaBIOS'? We're not on SGI hardware here

Right, I meant ARC. SGI calls it ARCS and DEC called it ARC or AlphaBIOS, both implementations of the ARC bootloader.

SGI developed the xfs driver for linux, I'm not sure anyone legally could make an xfs driver for the BSDs.

Whatever seemed to match the machine

tingo wrote: Since it hasn't been mentioned here yet: NetBSD also has support for xfs. Or had, the release I used back when I tried it a few years ago is very old now, I haven't kept up with NetBSD developments since then.

I'm pretty sure that NetBSD has never supported xfs (there certainly isn't any support in the source tree I have checked out, which should be HEAD somewhere around 7.99.13). There is support for efs and the sgi volume headers though, perhaps you were thinking of that?

The hardware is still presumably alright, just don't go with their software.

That reminds me of a fortune(1):

In case Xpad doesn't work out for you, there's also the thing jimmer cooked up ( viewtopic.php?t=13785 ), though the link is dead (and that's an old version anyway). I have a copy here: http://duck.at.shangtai.net/files/sgi/ .

Damnit, hamei, you ninja

hamei wrote:

duck wrote: Damnit, hamei, you ninja

There's plenty of room here for a team ... maybe you can get it to not seize up the desktop ?

Notes then? I have no issues running it since I first installed it...

hamei wrote:

duck wrote: Notes then? I have no issues running it since I first installed it...

Could still be several things - Viewkit here at 21 and so is the os. Also I have 2 p's ? One would think everything in Irix would be careful about smp but you never know.

Yup, dual R12ks here too, and ViewKit 2.1. I thought I had the 1.0 tardist installed (linked in my earlier post), but the binary is in /usr/local and I don't have a 'notes' package installed, so perhaps I'm running 0.9? I have a vague memory of one of the versions being kind of broken.

Yup, "About Notes" says 0.9.

Find my binary enclosed.

It's not something I use every day (these notes are OLD , but quite handy...

sornywrx wrote: The error mentions controller 0, disk 1 and that's what the partition program shows so it seems to be pointing to the correct thing. Also, when I ran boot -f I replaced dksc(1,6,x) with cdrom(1,6,x) and both worked (as far as loading the partitioning tool but both ways gives me the same error in the screenshot above.

Did you try to run the installer again after resetenv? It looks to me like it's got some weird path set in the prom (you can think of /hw like /proc on linux, it's a virtual file tree of all the installed devices, but only available in a running system, it would make zero sense in the prom) where it would expect a dksc-style disk id.

sornywrx wrote:

duck wrote: Did you try to run the installer again after resetenv? It looks to me like it's got some weird path set in the prom (you can think of /hw like /proc on linux, it's a virtual file tree of all the installed devices, but only available in a running system, it would make zero sense in the prom) where it would expect a dksc-style disk id.

Sure did. Reset it and tried again (twice actually).. no dice.

I was just reading about using debian as a sftp server for the media... thought about spinning up a Debian VM and mounting my ISOs there and ruling out the CD-ROM drive. The files on the miniroot partition, after being copied by the CD, look to be corrupted and unreadable so I'm thinking it's something happening in the data transfer portion. :/

Bummer. It's been so long since I twiddled in the prom that I can't remember half of it anymore... I had a search around and this looks interesting: viewtopic.php?t=15702

Seems like the "Unknown device" can happen for many reasons... if you are able, maybe try to replace the disk? There's also the old nugget "reseat everything".

Fx also has the 'auto' command when launched in expert mode (-x) which will automatically exercise the disk to find bad blocks, map them out and create a standard label. Might be worth trying in case there happened to be bad blocks in just the wrong place.

sornywrx wrote: I had read that the disk could be the problem. Replacing the disk may be the next purchase as these SCSI disks (as long as they aren't labeled as SGI) aren't that expensive since I don't need anything bigger than a 36 or 73GB.

I actually launched fx in 'auto' mode last night around midnight so that it could exercise the disk and find bad blocks and all that. As of this morning when I left for work it was still running so I'll have to see how it turned out this evening. Figured it couldn't hurt since I wouldn't be home to work on the machine anyways.

It seems like you have anticipated my every move, good job

Krokodil wrote: Well I would've just replaced the board with vPro right away but the pixel clock bug in the v6/v8 is a deal breaker and finding the V10/V12 on it's own is almost impossible, or goes for astronomically high prices and would require upgrading everything to Octane2 standards, an expensive endeavor.

Nah, MGRAS is fine... also, the only thing you have to upgrade for the highend VPro is the XBow (yours is 1.3, you need 1.4), jan-jaap had one for sale yesterday (but it went right quick

Edit: Congrats on finding a working lightbar btw

uunix wrote: But what's this about a v6 clocking bug?

The v6 and the v8 have this (hardware) bug where the display will be blank even if a valid mode is loaded when the pixel clock is between 109 and 193MHz, also called "frequency hole"... see more on the threads linked here

Apparently it was not enough of an issue to halt production, but it's effectively impossible to produce some modes on LCD:s due to the limits in frequencies allowed. With CRTs, you can bypass the issue by just driving the display at a higher refresh rate.

Krokodil wrote: I would also need a Cherokee power supply to upgrade to V10/V12 no?

No, that's what SGI recommended, but it seems it works just fine with the old lucent (my octane doesn't have thew newer PSU for instance, and it's got V12 graphics and dual R12k CPUs. I've had it running with three disks as well, but now it only has one). Perhaps if it's really stacked, it might cause a problem?

hamei wrote: btw, I've never been able to get Scribus or Inkscape to do anything except crash. My hat is off to anyone who can actually get something worthwhile out of them.

I use Inkscape all the time to draw icons and suchlike. For that, it's excellent. I can even batch run it and thus get all the dpi versions of android icons updated in one stodgy go.