The collected works of Winnili - Page 2

SAQ wrote:
The one I don't want to see die is OpenVMS.

Then it's probably best to close your eyes.

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• Offering various remaining (system) parts, many compatible with IRIX and OpenVMS AXP / I64 ;
• Looking for an SGI O3000 IP59 1 GHz MIPS R16000 quad-processor node board (for a Tezro).
One is sold, the other is reserved and about to be sold.

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• Offering various remaining (system) parts, many compatible with IRIX and OpenVMS AXP / I64 ;
• Looking for an SGI O3000 IP59 1 GHz MIPS R16000 quad-processor node board (for a Tezro).
Thank you for the very detailed answer. That's an interesting limitation then.

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• Looking for an SGI O3000 IP59 1-GHz MIPS R16000 quad-processor node board (for a Tezro).
Hakimoto wrote:
Favourite part? A few years ago I met a guy who belongs to one of the ethnic minorities (ok, we have A LOT of ethnicities here, but this is a real minority), the Pashayi people. They have their own language, own culture. So I've been to their homeland twice so far, learned some of their language, in return they've treated me like their long-lost brother and I feel privileged to be able to go there because it's in the South-East of Afghanistan, pretty much a no-go zone for anyone who's not from there .

Sounds like a rather xenophobic place.

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• Looking for an SGI O3000 IP59 1 GHz MIPS R16000 quad-processor node board (for a Tezro).
fu wrote:
@winni
xenophobia is what's being pushed back into eu/us as a norm, wrapped into the phony paper of "recession". mere survival for folks in places like afghanistan is a different universe.

I'd think that xenophobia is xenophobia. There are many Afghans in my home country and they aren't excluded from going anywhere, in fact, it'd be against the law. Well, strange exemption or exception then, don't you think? Also, how do you mean “survival”?

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• Looking for an SGI O3000 IP59 1 GHz MIPS R16000 quad-processor node board (for a Tezro).
fu wrote:
and i always pick a funky neighborhood to reside where no one's excluded from walking around but the bigger picture usually involves more than mine or your neighborhood

I don't understand what you're trying to convey with the above.


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we don't have to spill any virtual ink for that, you could post a shot of the average guy in your neighborhood and hakim could do the same :)

a propos, where's you cool habitat at? & what do you think of the current state of europe?

You don't need to know my exact whereabouts, but I can tell you that there are tons of home invasions and robberies in this country. In fact, this week questionable figures (on a scooter) were at the door late at night.

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• Offering various remaining (system) parts, many compatible with IRIX and OpenVMS AXP / I64 ;
• Looking for an SGI O3000 IP59 1 GHz MIPS R16000 quad-processor node board (for a Tezro).
That's very interesting, beautiful imagery and great quality scans as always. Thank you very much!

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• Offering various remaining systems and parts, several interestingly compatible with both IRIX and OpenVMS ( AXP and I64 );
• Looking for an SGI O3000 IP59 1-GHz MIPS R16000 quad-processor node board (for a Tezro).
Both are sold now. (I'll also be selling an rx2620 this week, although I can't update the thread because it's still ‘locked’.)

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• Offering various remaining (system) parts, many compatible with IRIX and OpenVMS AXP / I64 ;
• Looking for an SGI O3000 IP59 1 GHz MIPS R16000 quad-processor node board (for a Tezro).
It's no longer for sale. I found out it fit nicely in a laptop of mine, of which I've now maximized the memory.

I do have a 2 Gbyte DDR3 SO-DIMM (of Elpida; other information, such as part numbers and such I can look up on request) that I can sell, for what it's worth.

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• Offering various remaining (system) parts, many compatible with IRIX and OpenVMS AXP / I64 ;
• Looking for an SGI O3000 IP59 1 GHz MIPS R16000 quad-processor node board (for a Tezro).
Finisar FTLX8571D3BCL 10GBASE-SR/SW SFP+ (850 nm, MMF, LC) transceiver, for (e.g.) a suitable 10 gigabit ethernet NIC. Feel free to make me an offer.

Here's a picture (not my picture, although I can make one), but ― other than the serial number and so forth ― mine is identical:

Image

[Update: It's gone.]

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• Offering various remaining (system) parts, many compatible with IRIX and OpenVMS AXP / I64 ;
• Looking for an SGI O3000 IP59 1 GHz MIPS R16000 quad-processor node board (for a Tezro).
The system is reserved now.

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• Offering various remaining (system) parts, many compatible with IRIX and OpenVMS AXP / I64 ;
• Looking for an SGI O3000 IP59 1 GHz MIPS R16000 quad-processor node board (for a Tezro).
It's gone now.

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• Offering various remaining (system) parts, many compatible with IRIX and OpenVMS AXP / I64 ;
• Looking for an SGI O3000 IP59 1 GHz MIPS R16000 quad-processor node board (for a Tezro).
Sad, I was a regular user there and enjoyed the great amount of software. Too bad connections weren't always fast, even now with FASOLT:: (the replacement DS20E, not DS20 by the way). But, I heard that that's largely caused by uplink issues...


mila wrote:
Ohh now its been 3-4 years since I did use VMS, $ set host ..., set def d$7:[000000.mila] haha what a syntax once you been on Unix for a while.

You can omit “000000”, per fileSpec, when you're at the root. (I have no idea what “d$7” is, a privately defined logical? It doesn't look like a valid VMS storage device nor allocation class.)

Either way:
Code:
$ DEFINE $HOME D$7:[mila]
$ SET DEFAULT $HOME


Or, assuming that “D$7:[mila]” is configured as your “SYS$LOGIN” (i.e. UNIX “$HOME” equivalent):
Code:
$ SET DEFAULT SYS$LOGIN:


If “SET DEFAULT” just happens to be too exhausting for you:
Code:
$ CD :== SET DEFAULT


From there, e.g.:
Code:
$ CD $HOME


But, yes , UNIX is probably more for you...


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Unix was and is much better.

FAFNER::'s successor, FASOLT::, is still running VMS though. Dr. Ulmann still appreciates VMS (as do I) and I laud him for continuing to run and provide VMS for remote, public, access.

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• Looking for an SGI O3000 IP59 1 GHz MIPS R16000 quad-processor node board (for a Tezro).
If you try to log on in the usual manner and find out you can't, it's best to ask for your password to be reset.

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• Looking for an SGI O3000 IP59 1 GHz MIPS R16000 quad-processor node board (for a Tezro).
It is sold.

What remains, DS15-related, are various options (including a rare DS15 “audio option” card and a 1 Gbyte memory kit). I will list them in a new thread.

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• Looking for an SGI O3000 IP59 1 GHz MIPS R16000 quad-processor node board (for a Tezro).
That's a good question and interesting idea. I also still have a Sony PlayStation (“PSX”) here and had roughly the same idea once. (In the past, before I owned any SGIs for that matter, I was mildly involved with PSX homebrewing with PC cross-compiling/assembling, linking, etc. tools.)

I don't have one of my SGIs powered on at the moment, so I can't check it myself; but, if one can produce a little endian o32 (COFF) format binary, then I guess there would be a chance? Maybe a bit of a long shot. I don't know (from memory) if one can still produce COFF binaries (since I believe that is what the PSX primarily/solely uses, last time I checked), with modern versions, but I do know that IRIX since around version 6.2 doesn't provide any library and run-time support for it anymore (under IRIX itself).

Besides the above, you also need to make sure that you build for a target without an MMU (and fit whatever you have in the tiny ~4 Mbytes of shared memory). But, that is largely of secondary importance until the above is sorted out.

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Hereby I'm offering my remaining Hewlett-Packard Integrity rx2620 server and many zx6000/rx2600/rx2620 parts, for those possibily interested.

As far as complete systems go, I've sold an rx2620 about a month ago and I can still offer another one with the following:
  • 2 × Intel Itanium 9015 (SL9PC, released in 2007), “Montecito” dual-core and hyperthreading processors with VT-x at 1400 MHz with 12 Mbytes cache (up to ~533 MHz FSB, per Intel ARK), installed in late 2011 (brand-new out of the box);
  • 24 Gbytes PC2100 ECC-registered DDR-SDRAM (I can also lower to just 8 Gbytes and the ‘official’ maximum is 32 Gbytes and possibly beyond that);
  • HP iLO/MP card, with on-board ATi Radeon 7000 and permanent SSH license;
  • LSI 2000-series Fusion-MPT, with 1030 (53c1030), dual-channel Ultra320 SCSI LVD/SE on-board, with additional external HD68 connector;
  • Intel i82546 dual GbE (1000BASE-TX, copper) NIC on-board;
  • HP slimline stock DVD-ROM drive.
All in a 2U (industry standard 19") rack enclosure, with an intact bezel (hard to find separately), security/locking keys and the latest (2007~'08) firmware loaded. I should stress once more that the processors were installed in late 2011, brand-new. The system is also in a great shape, as you can hopefully tell from the pictures below.

Since it has an IPF 9000-series processor ― providing up to 8 logical CPUs and Intel VT-x Virtualization Technology (along with the necessary hypervisor) ― you can run exclusive features and applications such as HPVM (also known as Integrity VM). It's a fast system, works great with OpenVMS I64 (up to the latest, V8.4), HP-UX (up to the latest, 11i V3.1), various Linux distributions (Debian and Gentoo, notably), FreeBSD and should also work with ― if you care for it ― Windows 2008 R2 and even Windows XP SP2 IA-64 (it worked for me, the last time; I can show screenshots). Of lesser importance, but nice to know: The rx2620, unlike the zx2000, zx6000, rx2600, rx1600 and others before it, does actually provide a “glass terminal” (like for VMS, see the screenshot below).

(* Pictures are now removed, the head[?] moderator asked me to do so a while back. *)


Relevant FRU data:
Code:
FRU info

FRU Entry #   0 :
FRU NAME: CPU 0 PIROM ID:20

PROCESSOR DATA
S-spec/QDF:  L9PC
Sample/Prod: 01

CORE DATA
Arch Revision                :  00
Core Family                  :  20
Core Model                   :  00
Core Stepping                :  07
Max Core Frequency           : 1400 MHZ
Max SysBus Frequency         :  200 MHZ
Core Voltage                 : 1100 mV
Core Voltage Tolerance,High  :   32 mV
Core Voltage Tolerance,Low   :   96 mV

CACHE DATA
Cache Size                   :   12 MB

PACKAGE DATA
Package Revision             : NE Substrate Revision: 01

PROC PART NUMBER DATA
Part Number                  : 80549KC
Electronic Signature         : 0001C36186485CBE

THERMAL REF DATA
Upper Temp Ref               :  92 C
Calibr Offset                :  11 C

FEATURES DATA
IA-32 Proc Core Feature Flags:  FFFB8743
IA-64 Proc Core Feature Flags:  1B81806300000000
Package Feature Flags        :  3F000000
Devices on TAP Chain         :  2


FRU Entry #   1 :
FRU NAME: CPU 1 PIROM ID:21

PROCESSOR DATA
S-spec/QDF:  L9WZ
Sample/Prod: 01

CORE DATA
Arch Revision                :  00
Core Family                  :  20
Core Model                   :  00
Core Stepping                :  07
Max Core Frequency           : 1400 MHZ
Max SysBus Frequency         :  200 MHZ
Core Voltage                 : 1100 mV
Core Voltage Tolerance,High  :   32 mV
Core Voltage Tolerance,Low   :   96 mV

CACHE DATA
Cache Size                   :   12 MB

PACKAGE DATA
Package Revision             : NE Substrate Revision: 01

PROC PART NUMBER DATA
Part Number                  : 80549KC
Electronic Signature         : 0000E156564B2891

THERMAL REF DATA
Upper Temp Ref               :  92 C
Calibr Offset                :   3 C

FEATURES DATA
IA-32 Proc Core Feature Flags:  FFFB8743
IA-64 Proc Core Feature Flags:  1B81806300000000
Package Feature Flags        :  3F000000
Devices on TAP Chain         :  2


FRU Entry #   2 :
FRU NAME: Processor 0 RAM ID:24

CHASSIS INFO:

BOARD INFO:
Mfg Date/Time      : 0
Manufacturer       :
Product Name       : MONT C2 14 12 4M
S/N                : PR10641302
Part Number        : AD122-2101C
Fru File ID        : B
Custom Info        :
Custom Info        : 4633
Custom Info        :
Custom Info        : 2G5780C82R82
Custom Info        : 1


FRU Entry #   3 :
FRU NAME: Processor 1 RAM ID:25

CHASSIS INFO:

BOARD INFO:
Mfg Date/Time      : 0
Manufacturer       :
Product Name       : MONT C2 14 12 4M
S/N                : PR106397K2
Part Number        : AD122-2101C
Fru File ID        : B
Custom Info        :
Custom Info        : 4633
Custom Info        :
Custom Info        : 2G5780C82R82
Custom Info        : 1


FRU Entry #   4 :
FRU NAME: I/O Backplane ID:05

CHASSIS INFO:

BOARD INFO:
Mfg Date/Time      : 0
Manufacturer       : hp
Product Name       : server rx2600 riser card
S/N                : 40CTKES02D
Part Number        : A7231-66530
Fru File ID        : 10
Custom Info        : A5
Custom Info        : 4224
Custom Info        : A5
Custom Info        : 0


FRU Entry #   5 :
FRU NAME: MP Board ID:06

CHASSIS INFO:

BOARD INFO:
Mfg Date/Time      : 0
Manufacturer       : hp
Product Name       : management processor card
S/N                : [...]
Part Number        : AB587-60002
Fru File ID        : 10
Custom Info        : A
Custom Info        : 4538
Custom Info        : C
Custom Info        : 0

[...]

FRU NAME: Motherboard ID:00

CHASSIS INFO:
Type:Rack Mount Chassis

BOARD INFO:
Mfg Date/Time      : 5480269
Manufacturer       : CELESTICA
Product Name       : motherboard
S/N                : 52CTR67063
Part Number        : AB331-60101
Fru File ID        : 10
Custom Info        : A
Custom Info        : 4551
Custom Info        : A5
Custom Info        : 0

PRODUCT INFO:
Manufacturer       : hp
Product Name       : server rx2620
Part/Model         : AB332A
S/N                : DEH46265H8
FRU File ID        : 11
Custom Info        : 11a


Information from the CLUE facility in the VMS SDA, with various options added into the system:
Code:
System Configuration:
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System Information:
System Type   HP rx2620  (1.40GHz/6.0MB)                Primary CPU ID 0.
Cycle Time    0.71 nsec (1400 MHz)                      Pagesize       8192 Byte

System Management BIOS Information:
BIOS Version   04.29                     Manufacturer   hp
Release Date   11/30/2007                Product Name   server rx2620
[...]

System Memory Configuration:
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Cluster      PFN Start      PFN Count           Range (MByte)            Usage
--------   ------------   ------------   -----------------------------   -------
#000               0              1            0.0 MB -        0.0 MB    Console
#001               1             79            0.0 MB -        0.6 MB    System
80             48                                      NXM
#002             128            384            0.6 MB -        3.6 MB    System
#003             512            256            3.6 MB -        5.6 MB    Console
#004             768            256            5.6 MB -        7.6 MB    System
#005            1024            256            7.6 MB -        9.6 MB    Console
#006            1280           6912            9.6 MB -       63.6 MB    System
#007            8192           2048           63.6 MB -       79.6 MB    Console
#008           10240           6144           79.6 MB -      127.6 MB    System
#009           16384           2048          127.6 MB -      143.6 MB    Console
#010           18432         109627          143.6 MB -     1000.1 MB    System
#011          128059           2501         1000.1 MB -     1019.6 MB    Console
#012          130560            270         1019.6 MB -     1021.7 MB    System
#013          130830            242         1021.7 MB -     1023.6 MB    Console
131072         393216                                      NXM
#014          524288        2621439         1023.6 MB -    21503.6 MB    System
#015         3145727              1        21503.6 MB -    21503.6 MB    Console
3145728       30539776                                      NXM
#016        33685504         390380        21503.6 MB -    24553.5 MB    System
#017        34075884            788        24553.5 MB -    24559.6 MB    Console
#018        34076672             84        24559.6 MB -    24560.3 MB    System
#019        34076756              1        24560.3 MB -    24560.3 MB    Console
#020        34076757              1        24560.3 MB -    24560.3 MB    System
#021        34076758            939        24560.3 MB -    24567.6 MB    Console
#022        34077697            253        24567.6 MB -    24569.6 MB    Console
#023        34077950              2        24569.6 MB -    24569.6 MB    Console
#024        34077952            196        24569.6 MB -    24571.2 MB    System
#025        34078148            316        24571.2 MB -    24573.6 MB    Console
#026        34078464              1        24573.6 MB -    24573.6 MB    System
#027        34078465            255        24573.6 MB -    24575.6 MB    Console

System Processor Configuration:
-------------------------------
CPU ID         0                         CPU State    rc,pa,pp,cv,pv,pmv,pl
CPU Type       Dual-Core Itanium  (Intel Itanium 9000  Rev C2)
Halt PC        00000000.00000000         Halt PS      00000000.00000000
Halt code      Bootstrap or Powerfail    Halt Req.    Default, No Action
Slot VA        FFFFFFFF.960A7000         CPUDB VA     FFFFFFFF.89048000
Package        0                         Core         0
Thread id      0                         Cothread id  4
FW Usage       00000000.00000000         CPU die      0
ACPI CPU id    00000000.00000000         Serial Num   0001C36186485CBE
LID            00000000.00000000         CFG flags    00000000.00000631  Hardware Initialized Primary Present Reassignable

CPU ID         1                         CPU State    rc,pa,pp,cv,pv,pmv,pl
CPU Type       Dual-Core Itanium  (Intel Itanium 9000  Rev C2)
Halt PC        00000000.00000000         Halt PS      00000000.00000000
Halt code      Bootstrap or Powerfail    Halt Req.    Default, No Action
Slot VA        FFFFFFFF.960A8000         CPUDB VA     FFFFFFFF.89105500
Package        0                         Core         1
Thread id      0                         Cothread id  5
FW Usage       00000000.00000100         CPU die      0
ACPI CPU id    00000000.00000002         Serial Num   0001C36186485CBE
LID            00000000.02000000         CFG flags    00000000.00000611  Hardware Initialized Present Reassignable

CPU ID         2                         CPU State    rc,pa,pp,cv,pv,pmv,pl
CPU Type       Dual-Core Itanium  (Intel Itanium 9000  Rev C2)
Halt PC        00000000.00000000         Halt PS      00000000.00000000
Halt code      Bootstrap or Powerfail    Halt Req.    Default, No Action
Slot VA        FFFFFFFF.960A9000         CPUDB VA     FFFFFFFF.89107380
Package        3                         Core         0
Thread id      0                         Cothread id  6
FW Usage       00000000.00030000         CPU die      0
ACPI CPU id    00000000.00000004         Serial Num   0000E156564B2891
LID            00000000.04000000         CFG flags    00000000.00000611  Hardware Initialized Present Reassignable

CPU ID         3                         CPU State    rc,pa,pp,cv,pv,pmv,pl
CPU Type       Dual-Core Itanium  (Intel Itanium 9000  Rev C2)
Halt PC        00000000.00000000         Halt PS      00000000.00000000
Halt code      Bootstrap or Powerfail    Halt Req.    Default, No Action
Slot VA        FFFFFFFF.960AA000         CPUDB VA     FFFFFFFF.89109380
Package        3                         Core         1
Thread id      0                         Cothread id  7
FW Usage       00000000.00030100         CPU die      0
ACPI CPU id    00000000.00000006         Serial Num   0000E156564B2891
LID            00000000.06000000         CFG flags    00000000.00000611  Hardware Initialized Present Reassignable

CPU ID         4                         CPU State    rc,pa,pp,cv,pv,pmv,pl
CPU Type       Dual-Core Itanium  (Intel Itanium 9000  Rev C2)
Halt PC        00000000.00000000         Halt PS      00000000.00000000
Halt code      Bootstrap or Powerfail    Halt Req.    Default, No Action
Slot VA        FFFFFFFF.960AB000         CPUDB VA     FFFFFFFF.8910B300
Package        0                         Core         0
Thread id      1                         Cothread id  0
FW Usage       00000000.00000001         CPU die      0
ACPI CPU id    00000000.00000001         Serial Num   0001C36186485CBE
LID            00000000.01000000         CFG flags    00000000.00000611  Hardware Initialized Present Reassignable

CPU ID         5                         CPU State    rc,pa,pp,cv,pv,pmv,pl
CPU Type       Dual-Core Itanium  (Intel Itanium 9000  Rev C2)
Halt PC        00000000.00000000         Halt PS      00000000.00000000
Halt code      Bootstrap or Powerfail    Halt Req.    Default, No Action
Slot VA        FFFFFFFF.960AC000         CPUDB VA     FFFFFFFF.8910D300
Package        0                         Core         1
Thread id      1                         Cothread id  1
FW Usage       00000000.00000101         CPU die      0
ACPI CPU id    00000000.00000003         Serial Num   0001C36186485CBE
LID            00000000.03000000         CFG flags    00000000.00000611  Hardware Initialized Present Reassignable

CPU ID         6                         CPU State    rc,pa,pp,cv,pv,pmv,pl
CPU Type       Dual-Core Itanium  (Intel Itanium 9000  Rev C2)
Halt PC        00000000.00000000         Halt PS      00000000.00000000
Halt code      Bootstrap or Powerfail    Halt Req.    Default, No Action
Slot VA        FFFFFFFF.960AD000         CPUDB VA     FFFFFFFF.89116A80
Package        3                         Core         0
Thread id      1                         Cothread id  2
FW Usage       00000000.00030001         CPU die      0
ACPI CPU id    00000000.00000005         Serial Num   0000E156564B2891
LID            00000000.05000000         CFG flags    00000000.00000611  Hardware Initialized Present Reassignable

CPU ID         7                         CPU State    rc,pa,pp,cv,pv,pmv,pl
CPU Type       Dual-Core Itanium  (Intel Itanium 9000  Rev C2)
Halt PC        00000000.00000000         Halt PS      00000000.00000000
Halt code      Bootstrap or Powerfail    Halt Req.    Default, No Action
Slot VA        FFFFFFFF.960AE000         CPUDB VA     FFFFFFFF.89118900
Package        3                         Core         1
Thread id      1                         Cothread id  3
FW Usage       00000000.00030101         CPU die      0
ACPI CPU id    00000000.00000007         Serial Num   0000E156564B2891
LID            00000000.07000000         CFG flags    00000000.00000611  Hardware Initialized Present Reassignable


System Adapter Configuration:
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TR Adapter     ADP               Hose Bus      BusArrayEntry     Node GSIN   iVec    SCB  Port Slot Device Name / HW-Id
-- ----------- ----------------- ---- -------------------------- ---- ------------------- ---- ---- ---------------------------
1 ACPI_IA64_P FFFFFFFF.890AEE40    0 00 IA64_BUS
2 ACPI_IA64_B FFFFFFFF.890B6C40    0 00 IA64_BUS
3 XBUS        FFFFFFFF.890C8BC0    0 00 XBUS
FFFFFFFF.890C8F98    0 0023    00DE   15E0 TTA:    0 Generic Com port
FFFFFFFF.890C90A8    1 0022    00DD   15D0 TTB:    1 Generic Com port
FFFFFFFF.890C91B8    2 0000    FFFF      0 CMA:    2 IPMI port
FFFFFFFF.890C92C8    3 0024    00DC   15C0 SEA:    3 ACPI System Event
4 PCI         FFFFFFFF.890D4C80    0 00 PCI
FFFFFFFF.890D5168    8 FFFF    FFFF      0         1 MFPCI
FFFFFFFF.890D5278   10 0015    00DB   15B0 DQA:    2 CMD 649 IDE/ATA Controller
5 PCI         FFFFFFFF.890D7780    0 00 PCI
FFFFFFFF.890D7B58    8 0010    00DA   15A0 OHA:    1 NEC OHCI USB Controller
FFFFFFFF.890D7C68    9 0011    00D9   1590 OHB:    1 NEC OHCI USB Controller
FFFFFFFF.890D7D78    A 0012    00D8   1580 EHA:    1 NEC EHCI USB Controller
6 PCI         FFFFFFFF.890DB240    0 20 PCI
FFFFFFFF.890DB628 2008 FFFF    FFFF      0         1 MFPCI
FFFFFFFF.890DB738 2010 FFFF    FFFF      0         2 MFPCI
7 PCI         FFFFFFFF.890DDB40    0 20 PCI
FFFFFFFF.890DDE18 2008 001B    00D7   1570 PKA:    1 LSI Logic 1030 U320
FFFFFFFF.890DDF28 2009 001C    00D6   1560 PKB:    1 LSI Logic 1030 U320
8 PCI         FFFFFFFF.890DE6C0    0 20 PCI
FFFFFFFF.890DEA98 2010 001D    00D5   1550 EIA:    2 i82546 LOM (dual Gbit Ethernet)
FFFFFFFF.890DEBA8 2011 001E    00D4   1540 EIB:    2 i82546 LOM (dual Gbit Ethernet)
9 PCI         FFFFFFFF.890E4700    0 40 PCI
FFFFFFFF.890E4BE8 4008 0026    00D3   1530 EWA:    1 AB287A (10 Gigabit Ethernet)
10 PCI         FFFFFFFF.890EAF80    0 60 PCI
FFFFFFFF.890EB468 6008 0031    00D2   1520 PKC:    1 LSI Logic 1030 U320
11 PCI         FFFFFFFF.890F1440    0 80 PCI
FFFFFFFF.890F1928 8008 003C    00D1   1510 EWB:    1 AB287A (10 Gigabit Ethernet)
12 PCI         FFFFFFFF.890F78C0    0 C0 PCI
FFFFFFFF.890F7DA8 C008 0047    00D0   1500 PKD:    1 LSI Logic 1030 U320
13 PCI         FFFFFFFF.890FE000    0 E0 PCI
FFFFFFFF.890FE3E8 E008 FFFF    FFFF      0         1 MFPCI
FFFFFFFF.890FE4F8 E010 0053    00CF   14F0 GHA:    2 ATI Radeon 7000
14 PCI         FFFFFFFF.89100900    0 E0 PCI
FFFFFFFF.89100BD8 E008 0052    00DF   15F0         1 1291103C.1290103C (<...<...)
FFFFFFFF.89100CE8 E009 0052    00DF   15F0 SRA:    1 Console Serial Line Driver



There are many options, too many to list in this thread, so best is to contact me for specific items. I will also create a new thread, with many PCI, PCI-X, AGP, etc. options I have in general; many of which, by the way, should also work in SGI (i.e. O3000-series) and other systems.

For now, these are some of the more prominent and useful (and, notably, largely HP-UX/VMS-compatible), parts I can offer:
  • 650 watt PSUs (I have several), like for a second PSU in the rx2620 and thus providing N+1 redundant power;
  • 3½" Ultra320 SCSI LVD/SE SCA80 disks, mostly 10K but also 15K RPM models, along with HP ‘ring’-sleds available (contact me for more information);
  • AMD/ATi video cards such as...
    • Radeon 7500 All-In-Wonder (64 Mbytes), PCI † & AGP ‡ ;
    • Radeon 7500ME (128 Mbytes), AGP ‡ ;
    • Radeon HD4670 (1024 Mbytes), AGP ¤ ;
    • Radeon HD5450 (512 Mbytes), PCI ‡ ;
    • FireGL X1 (256 Mbytes), AGP ¬ .
      HP zx6000-type 1× AGP plus 3× PCI-X riser/backplane board * , either pre-installed into a card cage or as a separate board (e.g. if you should want a card cage with 4× PCI-X slots, for primary usage).
        † These graphics cards, besides the (2D-only) iLO/MP-integrated Radeon 7000, are fully compatible with VMS. (By the way, not too many left...)
        ‡ These cards are notably not compatible with VMS. Which also includes the Radeon 7500 AGP cards, as they're said to potentially give issues with VMS. So, it's best to go with a PCI model for VMS usage. I believe (nearly) all of these cards, however, will at least provide a VMS “glass terminal.”
        ¤ Avoid this card unless you know what you're doing. This card needs additional power, which either needs to be provided externally or from within the system. Suggested only for electronics-savvy people.
        ¬ This card is ‘officially’ only supported by HP-UX 11i v2.3 MT- and DC-OE editions and Windows XP IA-64.
        * This is, needless to say, a requirement for any AGP video card.
  • HP-badged S2io/Exar/Neterion Xframe 10GbE (10GBASE-SR, 850 nm, MMF, LC) fiber-optical NICs, including transceivers ;
  • HP-badged Broadcom/LSI GbE-and-FC (1000BASE-TX and 2 Gbit FC-AL, 850 nm, LC) ‘combo’ cards;
  • HP-badged Intel/LSI GbE-and-U320 (1000BASE-TX and Ultra320 SCSI LVD/SE, with two external VHDCI connectors) ‘combo’ card;
  • HP-/Compaq-branded Broadcom VMS-compatible GbE (1000BASE-TX, copper) NICs, mostly BCM5701, BCM5703 and BCM5704 types (a.k.a. “DEGXA” and “DEGX2”);
  • LSI 2000-series Fusion-MPT with 1020/1030 (53c1030) Ultra320 SCSI LVD/SE HBAs, several HP- and IBM-badged, single- and dual-channel (typically with either one HD68 or two VHDCI external connectors);
  • HP Smart Array 6402 dual-channel Ultra320 SCSI LVD/SE RAID HBA, with 256 Mbytes (usually only found on quad-channel models, i.e. 6404) memory and battery;
  • HP-branded HP-UX/Windows/Linux-compatible audio card (3.3 V PCI);
  • HP-branded (and some other) slimline DVD±R/RW burner, instead of the DVD-ROM drive.

Besides the above, there are also many spare PSUs, loads of (spare) PC2100 ECC RDIMMs, a few card cages and a so-called “M-cable” (for in the iLO/MP card in rx2600/rx2620 type systems, notably), to name a few things. Also ‘non-operational’ parts and items, like the “Processor Tool” (the ‘official’ tool to lock processors into the socket found in zx2000 [?] , zx6000, rx2600 and rx2620 type systems), stickers, various documents (part number sheets), cables and more. Please do not hesitate to contact me.


As far as one or more possible trades go: I'm interested in an SGI IP59 1 GHz MIPS R16000 quad-processor board (P/N: 030-1989-003 ).

[Update: It's all sold, save for some PCI-X expansion cards and other items.]

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Does anyone have a Delta Electronics DPS-75TB 75.24 W power supply unit, perhaps a spare one and willing to sell/trade it? To clarify, it's the one found in the Digital Multia/UDB, or the VX40 of mine at least. I may also be interested in a full Multia/UDB, maybe a VX41, or a gutted one even (as long as the PSU still works fine). I may also consider a similarly-sized DEC 3000.

Thanks in advance.

[Update: No longer needed.]

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Winnili wrote:
sgi_mark, did you see my the two DEC PWS 500au and two Compaq AlphaServer DS10 systems, or even the HP Integrity rx2620 , which I've put up for sale/trade? (With pictures.) All systems should be max'ed out (or very close to it), with lots of possible extras. I'm located in the Netherlands, so relatively nearby.

To update the above, in case you may still be interested: All have been sold (my PWS 500au's, DS10s, an rx2620 and also a DS15), only one rx2620 remains.

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There are also three [3] Intel Itanium 2 ““McKinley”” (?) /““Madison””/““Madison-9M””-type processor cooler & VRM assemblies, without processors. I also have a zx6000/rx2600/rx2620-type ““Processor Airflow Guide””/baffle. If anyone is interested, please let me know. I do not nead the ‘‘jackpot’’, but considering the time it will cost me to pack and ship them, a little something would perhaps be nice.

If nobody is interested, I will have to recycle them (as they are in the way, boxed). In fact, a general note with regard to this entire thread : I will recycle the (e.g.) PCI/PCI-X/AGP expansion cards, processor VRM/cooler assemblies, etc. if they aren't sold or spoken for by the end of Tuesday. The rx2620 by the end of Friday .

One final remark, or reminder actually: If you'’d like (more) information and/or pictures, please let me know. I can also bring up the rx2620 and show you around with HPVM/IVM. (For instance, already set up a virtualized hexa-node VMScluster, which runs fine.)

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Where did you get it, off that Hummingbird Sales site by any chance?

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pentium wrote: I simply can't see myself doing ANYTHING with an AS/400.

What, does ERP-at-home not appeal to you?
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I still have it and you have to hurry then, because Friday is the deadline .

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Perhaps, but OpenVMS is ‘officially’ not supported on the 164LX and 164SX systems . Digital/Tru64 UNIX will whine less, or perhaps not at all. In fact, Tru64 UNIX and even up to the last versions (e.g. V5.1B-4, -5 and -6, if you can get a hold of it) also runs better on, say, a Multia/UDB (or an equivalent AXPpci-type system, which the Multia/UDB resembles quite a bit).

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The rx2620, along with a single-channel HP-branded LSI Logic 2000-series w/1030 Ultra320 SCSI LVD/SE and two HP FC/GbE ‘combo’ cards has been spoken for. The rest, notably the expansion cards, are still available and will be scrapped if it isn't spoken for by the end of the day.

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Alver wrote:
It's notouriously evil at 64bit, for a starter... which is probably why CDE was built as 32bit binaries on all (closed source) platforms I know :D

What about VMS and HP-UX for IA-64 or Digital/Tru64 (OSF/1) UNIX and VMS for AXP? Those are pretty much ‘64-bit—only’ platforms, AXP particularly so (IA-64 especially since the 9000-series IPF).

They did seem to go for 32-bit, like in the case of CDE for IRIX (I haven't checked Solaris). But, don't you think it has more to do with support and (backwards) compatibility reasons than any other considerations?

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These are very rare and if (rarely) available, very pricey.

I seem to remember a zx6000/rx2600 “deskside pedestal mounting kit”, albeit new, to cost around EUR 350. (Things like bezels are also rare and very pricey. The most affordable bezel I saw recently, in years actually, wasn't even for an Integrity but 9000; for the similar form factor rp3440, I believe.)

Depending on how much you're willing to spend, it's probably best to contact third-party resellers and specialized dealers. Over in Australia you have Systemax via eBay , they often have excellent prices. I remember I ordered a few things from them in the past, often for a fraction of the price of the same things offered here in Europe and in the USA; even with shipping costs included in the total sum and on each occasion the items seemed like new, or were simply new! (I'm not in any way affiliated to them, just sharing my experiences.) You could try and contact them, to see if they have anything for you. It's perhaps worth a try.

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Nice catch. Do you have any SDI I/O equipment to take advantage of it? (And for that matter a VBOB, perhaps en route?)
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Excellent, I don't recall these ones either. Thanks for sharing these!

I love how SGI used to capitalize much on its presence in the film industry, that made a very strong impression (also on me).

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Thanks again (vielen dank) for the scans, Isogul! I really appreciate it. Threads like these make me keep returning to this forum.

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What are you going to try, if I may ask? (Purely out of curiosity.)
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jan-jaap wrote:
Same problem here

There's no problem here on my end, I'm merely inquiring out of curiosity. I have some (HD-)SDI equipment here.


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On the plus side: the 'traditional' mini converters from AJA and the like still cost a fair bit of money, but it looks like the Chinese have jumped in, e.g. http://www.ebay.com/itm/350592200330

I have one of those as well, or something very similar/nearly identical. I use one of those contraptions in combination with a decent IPS panel LCD monitor, instead of having to spend money and desk space for a HD broadcast monitor (usually CRT and not always equipped with SDI, sometimes merely optional in the form of an equally expensive expansion board) of some kind.


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They may either be good (or at least reasonable, I'm not doing broadcast stuff anyway), or else drive the price down.

They're good in so far I've tested mine. They may not be flawless, but I'm not broadcasting either. (Merely using it provide the de facto broadcast monitor, via the DM5.)

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Teddy wrote:
Yes, i think my only bet may be to hunt down a complete low end system on ebay.

Have you used the system much so far? (Out of curiosity, which operating system[s]?)


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There seems to be a reasonable amount parts for the zx6000 / rx2600 on ebay, but no one has the tower skins and front bezel.....

Same situation as many years ago then...


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I have already been in contact with systemax-online, they dont have anything currently in stock.

Too bad, sorry to hear. Well, good luck with the hunt.

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Interesting, certainly looks nice and quite neat.

The TI-83/84/84P/84P-SE could alternatively be a good candidate as well, with the excellent BASIC and assembly programming capabilities. (There should also be a serial link cable available, or you could of course simply build one yourself.)

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foetz wrote: i hope of course i can fire up an old machine a make some pics of explore 4.2 and prisms.

That would be great, especially of the latter. I'm a big fan of Houdini, although I've never had the chance to use/run PRISMS. (I remember reading about it on the SESI web site, also in magazines at the time. Lots of great stories.)
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What is the most maximized setup you can get in terms of ARM-powered workstations/desktops, being able to run that RISC OS?

For instance: Which (types of ARM, socketed for that matter?) CPUs and at which frequencies? How much RAM? What graphics adapters, storage controllers, etc. are there? What kind of buses, just PCI, PCI-X perhaps and even PCI-E? Also, peripheral-wise, are there digitizers/tablets known to work?

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The (last, remaining) rx2620 has been sold.

Only some parts still remain, mostly 10GbE NICs along with other costly/rare PCI/PCI-X options (as well as some other items; if you need something and think I may have it, feel free to contact me).

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theinonen wrote:
The last real desktop RISC OS computer was IYONIX and all the newer systems are just boxed Raspberry Pi, BeagleBoard and PandaBoard systems. RISC OS 5 has ROM images for IOMD (A7000, RiscPC), OMAP3, OMAP4, Raspberry Pi and IYONIX.

Is it also touch screen optimized? OMAP, does it mean it would potentially run off a Texas Instruments ARM development board ‘system’ too?


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I am still using old and trusty IYONIX that has slow with modern standards 600 MHz X-Scale processor.

Looks like a nice system. I did see the site once, when it was still up, but the way these systems were offered didn't feel right; too little information, few pictures and so forth. Also a bit pricey, for me.


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It has 512 MB RAM that could be maxed to 1 GB

What kind of memory does it take?


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IDE hard drive

Is there perhaps also a way to drop in SCSI or even SATA disk in there? (Which I guess would require a SAS/SATA controller.) Speaking of PCI again, what type of PCI? (3.3 V, 5 V; 32-bit, 64-bit; 33 MHz, 66 MHz, 133 MHz [e.g. PCI-X, but I assume not], etc.?)

Do you think any PCI-E bus ARM systems will be made in the future? I mean, considering the fact that a 64-bit ARM has been announce (or rumored, I don't remember) months ago.


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As for expansion cards there are Nvidia FX5200 graphics card

That's not too bad, is it?


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gigabit ethernet and USB-card in PCI-bus

Any on-board USB, also? What kind of GbE NICs do(es) the RISC OS network driver(s) support?


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In IYONIX there is also support for old podule type expansion cards with the 2-slot riserboard, but almost no 32-bit drivers exist for podules. I have a MIDImax2 MIDI podule with 32bit drivers that never got working.

I'm not familiar with these. Are these of earlier ‘Acorn’ systems, by any chance? (The reason why they won't work, is that because of the old 26-bit addressing space?)


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The only tablet currently working fully I know of, that has proper drivers is cheap and chearful PaintPal tablet.

Never heard of it. But, it's better than nothing I guess. (Certainly more than, say, HP-UX has supported in that regard.)


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I have it and it works as expected.

That's good to hear then.


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I believe some Wacom tablets work in emulated mouse mode

That doesn't really count, that's just USB HID at work... But, I guess that aforementioned tablet would suffice.

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foetz wrote: i just happened to read the intro on the page with the prisms pics and noticed what a n00b that guy is. typical ipad kiddy.

Same here, I also became uninterested in the ‘accompanying texts’ after reading into the first paragraphs (although I did amazingly finish reading through it, somehow). Only the screenshots were of value to me.


if it doesn't look like on the iphone it's automatically ancient and bad. not a single word about the actual operation of the program but instead just dumb and superficial phrases.

Notice that he did model his (if you ask me, bulky, bland and unimpressive) ‘render farm’ after Google's first ‘production servers’. I mean, that was roughly from the same time period, wasn't it? I don't see him knocking that for being old and unwieldy. Unlike PRISMS, a very well-made, excellently thought out and robust software package, it was rather ‘ghetto’ rigged. I guess he must have a good reason for his double standards, or my value judgment just happens to differ a bit .

I also noticed that he's from here, but didn't see an education listed. Reminds me of what almost happened to me, as it almost seems he didn't finish his study(?), when I was offered by C.O.R.E. DP to come work for them before I had finished my study (which I declined at the time). I guess, if my suspicion is correct, he'd prove once that not having an education isn't ‘the end’ in terms of job/career opportunities and especially in this line of work... (I later then also made the stupid mistake of pursuing an IT/ICT study, amongst a few things, to ‘diversify’ my curriculum vitae.)


i bet if you'd just switch the gui widgets to apple defaults but change nothing else his text would be very different :P

Please don't give him and his ilk any ideas...


anyway don't get fooled by that article prisms is very good and unique. it's quite technical and doesn't follow the usual usage mechanisms.

Actually, isn't Houdini even also missing a few features and functionalities, like the PRISMS morphing tools? I certainly don't remember seeing them in any Houdini, both old and new, ever since.


it's not for everyone and some people never liked it; not back then and not today but if used right it'll serve you well in many ways :)

It's too bad nobody can use it anymore, I for one would love to try it (especially a N32 release). I guess I've permanently missed my chance, years ago...
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Only DAT72 (i.e. DDS-5), that I've personally heard of and dealt with. I think the explanation in the post before mine is very plausible.

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