The collected works of Adrenaline - Page 1

I will try it with MIPSPro sometime this week and let you know
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stuart wrote: Having run pidgin 2.4.1 for 24 hours now, the only problem I can see is that the client-supplied icon isn't displayed correctly when Pidgin is iconified/minimised.

Does anyone have a decent pidgin/gaim icon that I can override this with?

Can you package together Pidgin into a tardist?
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After selling off my 2 Octanes a few years back I'm itching to get back into them. Is there anyone in the VA/MD area looking to part ways with their Fuel, O2 or Octane?
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Wow that is a sweet deal, hopefully I'll hear back from some employers out there before this sells.
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You've got PM!
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Trying to get my Origin 300 up and running. Got DINA all configured with all the cds, I can see it on my network through Samba too.

However no matter what I try (resetenv, crossover cable, Origin 300 + Linux box on their own switch) all I get is:

Unable to execute bootp()192.168.2.100:/irix/6.5/1/dist/sa(sash64): could not connect to server
Cannot load bootp()192.168.2.100:/irix/6.5/1/dist/sa(sash64) -- could not connect to server.

Any ideas?

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Thinking about it some more, my Origin 300 has a Fiber Channel card in it, would that affect things or not?

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PymbleSoftware wrote:
Adrenaline wrote:
Thinking about it some more, my Origin 300 has a Fiber Channel card in it, would that affect things or not?


No. FibreChannel not supported in PROM for booting options, can not install from or onto FC. I have FC cards in my o300s and installed IRIX successfuly.

R.


Shucks, I was hoping that was it.

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Here's my boot login over console:

Code:
IP35 PROM SGI Version 6.182  built 04:29:57 PM Oct 20, 2004
Testing/Initializing memory ...............      DONE
Copying PROM code to memory ...............      DONE
Discovering local IO ......................      DONE
Discovering NUMAlink connectivity .........
Local hub NUMAlink is down.
*** Local network link down
DONE
Found 1 objects (1 hubs, 0 routers) in 16411 usec
Waiting for peers to complete discovery....      DONE
No other nodes present; becoming global master
Global master is /hw/rack/001/bay/16
Intializing any CPUless nodes..............      DONE
Checking partitioning information .........      DONE
No other nodes present; becoming partition master
Local slave entering slave loop
Loading BASEIO prom .......................      Local slave entering slave loop
Local slave entering slave loop
DONE

BASEIO PROM Monitor SGI Version 6.182  built 04:24:33 PM Oct 20, 2004 (BE64)
4 CPUs on 1 nodes found.
Automatic update of PROM environment disabled
Installing PROM Device drivers ............
Base I/O Ethernet set to /dev/ethernet/ef0
Probing Fibre Adapter 3: Found 0 device(s).

Walking SCSI Adapter 0, (pci id 1)
1+ Device Vendor Product: MAXTOR ATLAS15K_36SCA
2- 3- 4- 5- 6- 7- 8- 9- 10- 11- 12- 13- 14- 15- = 1 device(s)


Walking SCSI Adapter 1, (pci id 1)
1- 2- 3- 4- 5- 6- 7- 8- 9- 10- 11- 12- 13- 14- 15- = 0 device(s)

Initializing PROM Device drivers ..........             DONE
Checking hardware inventory ...............              DONE

**** System Configuration and Diagnostics Summary ****


printenv results:

Code:
AutoLoad=No
root=dks0d1s0
nonstop=0
rbaud=19200
SystemPartition=dksc(0,1,8)
OSLoadPartition=dksc(0,1,0)
OSLoader=sash
OSLoadFilename=unix
TimeZone=PST8PDT
console=d
oldConsolePath=/hw/module/001c16/iobrick
gConsoleIn=default
gConsoleOut=default
diskless=0
scsihostid=00
ProbeAllScsi=n
RestorePartEnv=y
dbaud=9600
volume=80
sgilogo=y
AutoPROMVars=0
cpufreq=500
dbgtty=/dev/tty/hubtty0
ConsolePath=/hw/module/001c16/iobrick
ConsoleOut=/dev/tty/hubtty0
ConsoleIn=/dev/tty/hubtty0


Tried using the "setenv -p srvaddr 192.168.1.100" and get a: ARP couldn't resolve network address.

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tingo wrote:
Have you troed another network cable?


Just tried, same thing.

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Just tried putting a "." for the Remote Directory IP Address and got this:

duplicate IP address!! sent from ethernet address: 18 87 96 be 92 f1
duplicate IP address!! sent from ethernet address: 18 87 96 be 92 f1
duplicate IP address!! sent from ethernet address: 18 87 96 be 92 f1
duplicate IP address!! sent from ethernet address: 18 87 96 be 92 f1
duplicate IP address!! sent from ethernet address: 18 87 96 be 92 f1
duplicate IP address!! sent from ethernet address: 18 87 96 be 92 f1
Unable to execute bootp().:/irix/6.5/1/dist/sa(sash64): could not connect to server
Cannot load bootp().:/irix/6.5/1/dist/sa(sash64) -- could not connect to server.

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Tried a different switch with only my Linux box and the Origin 300, now I'm getting:

Code:
dks0d1s0: volume header not valid
swap partition (0) is not a valid swap area.


Is there way to wipe the drive from prom? I'm guessing it doesn't like the non-irix partitions?

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recondas wrote:
Adrenaline wrote:
Is there way to wipe the drive from prom? I'm guessing it doesn't like the non-irix partitions?
See Clearing Old Data Prior to Installation.


Thanks! But how would that work doing a netboot? I don't have a cd-rom drive to boot fx from my IRIX CDs unfortunately.

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I wish I could get that far, it simply dies on the:

Code:
dks0d1s0: volume header not valid
swap partition (0) is not a valid swap area.

Press <Enter> to return to the menu:

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Should I try wiping the partitions in another system?

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recondas wrote:
Hard to tell from only two lines out of the netboot process where things are going south. Can you invoke fx using this method? http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/IRIX_Netwo ... figuration


That worked! Doing an "auto" on it now.

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Got IRIX up and running, thanks all for your help.

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Woke up this morning to tons of

Code:
Media Error: Unrecovered data block read errors


Time to reinstall everything again :(

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PymbleSoftware wrote:
Adrenaline wrote:
Woke up this morning to tons of

Code:
Media Error: Unrecovered data block read errors


Time to reinstall everything again :(


.. and update your signature

R.


Done :)

I was able to clone it to another Maxtor ATLAS 15k luckily, so all was not lost :)

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I started with QBasic at 9, moved up to Visual Basic a few years later and kinda got stuck in that rut for longer than I wanted. It wasn't until I was 13-14 I started picking up C and diving through the Doom source code and picked up C++ in High School through free time/high school classes. Got into PHP and MySQL at 17, got really advanced in it in my free time to the point where I got a professional PHP/Oracle job based on a CMS I built from scratch at 21.

Since then it's been mainly C# (WinForms/WPF/WCF/ASP.NET/MonoTouch/WP7) and MS SQL Server, with an occasional PHP script here or there. But I have been diving into IronPython the last week or two.

Been debating on whether or not to get back into C++ since a bunch of jobs I have been looking through are C#/C++, which I found kind of interesting. To be honest I've gotten very used to C# handling as much as it does.

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Nice collection and project!
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Prior to Silicon Graphics deciding on going down the Itanium route was there discussion on IRIX 6.6 or even a roadmap to 7.0?
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R-ten-K wrote:
Adrenaline wrote: Prior to Silicon Graphics deciding on going down the Itanium route was there discussion on IRIX 6.6 or even a roadmap to 7.0?



Internally processor/OS/SW projects had codenames usually left to the whim of the PM in charge.

There must have been tons of "roadmaps" floating around during the roaring late 90s. But they were mostly vaporware, anything that had to do with what would have been Irix post 6.5 was abandoned probably around 1999 when Oracle dropped support for Irix and it was clear that any new MIPS arch was not going to materialize.

I assume most discussions among the Irix team around that time were about resume writing tips.


Cool, that's what I thought. Hopefully some of those roadmaps get released into the wild, it would be neat to see what could have been.
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kubatyszko wrote: Very nice, I was just going to ask about the progress :) .
The problem with Origin200 is that it doesn't even have a video card, so in fact there is no way to test Gtk+ locally - you'd need physical box for that.

Cheers


Couldn't he simply run a VNC Server? That's what I do with my O300.
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jdboyd wrote:
SAQ wrote: Third: I'm strongly considering some sort of revision control. I know it sounds somewhat silly for a single-person project, but I'm getting tired of having to start over from the beginning with packages, especially given some of the IRIX packaging utilities' penchant for zeroing out my IDB files now and then :x . What systems have people used successfully with IRIX? I've never had to get involved with these before, but since XFS isn't a versioning file system I'm having problems.


I use version control for all my single person projects, and the ones I don't use it for, I probably should be using it anyway.

I've used cvs and git on irix, but I suspect that the best option is svn (I say that presuming that you are dealing with moderately large binary files).


I will second SVN, been using it daily at work and for my personnel use for the last 6 years.
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Congrats on getting it all hooked up with an L2, one day I hope to get one too.
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smj wrote:
Adrenaline wrote: Congrats on getting it all hooked up with an L2, one day I hope to get one too.

Thanks - no drama, which I had half expected. The L2 Emulator from the L3 software package worked just fine, but this L2 was too good a deal to let get away. Ditto for the router. Though at this point all I've done is increased my electric bill for no change in performance... :?

In your case would you use it with O300s, A350s, or... both?

Having the L3 software running in a VM on a cheap laptop is cheap, makes for a convenient console, etc etc. I currently use a Thinkpad R52 with a 2GHz Pentium M - plenty fast enough for this, plus browsing Nekochan. And one of these days I'll look into the performance monitoring software that's in the L3 package.

This laptop also runs DINA in another VM, for fast installs or updates. A hard drive with a few dozen GBs provides plenty of room for IRIX and Nekoware. Highly recommended...

I've got a second O300 on it's way at the end of the month. The A350s need an IO9, right now they're collecting dust :(

I'll have to look into the L3 software, thanks for the heads up!
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Glad to hear!
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I replaced my fans in my O300s with these:
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-80mm-Bearing-Black/dp/B0009JZSKO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1334833591&sr=8-3

Because the power connector for these fans does not match the proprietary O300 power connector on the motherboard, I simply wired them to the 4 pin molex power connector that is used to power the U160 drives. I disabled env because of this, but I setup a script to run env via the l1cmd to ensure everything is still within spec.

After doing the swap, I can barely hear my O300s being on.
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If you were curious about the "clean factor", I attached a picture. It's not pretty, but it's been working for 2 months now 24/7.
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I know this is not what you were probably looking for, but it was good read on comparing architectures:

http://www.jarredcapellman.com/files/NASA_Article_on_Clusters.pdf
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Just so I'm clear, you've got a c source file on your Fuel that you want to edit on your Macbook? Why not just setup a SMB share with your source code?

If you've doing cross-platform development, you might want to simply use SVN or CVS to check in/checkout code from each platform. That's what I do when I have cross-platform development at work and for personnel projects.

Another option to consider, yesterday I was asked to make modifications to all 3 platforms our app runs on (Windows Phone 7, iOS and Android). Since you can't do iOS development on anything but a Mac, I simply have 1 Visual Studio for Windows Phone 7, 1 for Android and a TurboVNC connection to the iMac.

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hamei wrote:
kubatyszko wrote:
IRIX BOX (say Fuel) with 6.5.30 and Macbook with OSX running emacs.

I'm trying to edit remote files on Fuel using emacs (running on osx)

This is crude but vnc works for a quick-n-dirty answer ......

Beat me to it! :)

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Ryan Fox wrote: Interesting that this got brought up. Imagine if Sgi still utilized MIPS , perhaps R20K cpus well over the 2GHZ mark.... (I never really liked a wintel box)
Irix 7 might have gone the same route as MacOS.. bubbled up, eye-candied up.. pwetty...
And if prices were competitive or equal to what Apple offered , then perhaps Sgi might still have the upper hand today in the graphics world.

Oh well..

I really wish they were still the original Silicon Graphics I grew up hearing about from my dad and even as late as when I got into 3D Animation in the late 90s they were still king. It's sad, PCs put the nail in the coffin for MIPS. A large part of that could be attributed to Microsoft's dominance as a platform.

Growing up on Intel (and later switching to AMD in 2000), it was cool to spend a little money at a time here and there, especially when 3Dfx was around. Adding a Diamond Monster 3D (Voodoo 1) back in December 97 was probably the second biggest jump I ever saw in performance in gaming. Watching the blaster pistol's bullet in Quake II light a corridor as it traveled down it at 640x480 in OpenGL mode was amazing. Not sure if anyone else got into Glide programming back in 98, but that triggered me into getting serious about learning C/C++ because of the ease of use.

The problem I see now is there is so little competition now. You've got Intel taking hold of the Highend Desktop market and AMD taking the lower end. Graphics flipflop between nVidia and AMD/ATI. More and more people are using cloud environments like Rackspace, GoGrid etc, so the need for internal servers is slowing (at least from the companies I have seen in the Baltimore/DC areas). Before you know it your "desktop" will be connected to a private cloud with your cell phone as a primary interface. Slowly moving the home/small business desktops & servers into the larger companies' cloud network, essentially shutting out the small to medium sized companies need for their own internal servers.

The thing that could still save the idea of a MIPS cpu is the low power usage per node, but then having to have an emulation layer to convert MIPS -> x86/x86-64 would be costly. I'm not sure even the current MIPS implementation could perform better per watt than a low power Intel Atom or AMD C or E Series after taking that into account. Maybe a MIPS/x86-64 hybrid would be the answer, taking the best of both approach? AMD seems to be thinking of using ARM cpus in conjunction with their APUs so maybe (read up on their SeaMicro acquisition).

I could be completely wrong, but that's my thoughts.
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wow what a killer deal you got, congrats!
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In the last couple weeks my album rotation has been:

    -Metallica - Load & Reload (Yeah probably the most hated albums, but my favorite of Metallicas, Outlaw Torn is amazing)
    -Bear McCreary - Battlestar Galactica Season 2-4 Scores (Can't wait for the Walking Dead score)
    -Mark Snow - X-files Volume 1 Score (Can't wait for Volume 2)
    -Cliff Eidelman - Star Trek VI Score (Don't be put off by Star Trek being in the title, it's very un-Star Trek)
    -Sonic Mayhem - Quake II score (Great programming getting in the zone music)
    -Depeche Mode - Music for the Masses
    -Nine Inch Nails - Still
    -Megadeth - Th1rteen & The World Needs A Hero

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For reference if you're going the other way (ie from 2012 to 6.5), you'll need to remove these lines from your .ma file:
    relationship
    .slnk
    .setAttr ".unw" 1
    setAttr ".g*
    .covm[0]
    .cdvm[0]

And then replace the "requires maya xxxx" line with "requires maya 6.5"

I haven't noticed any other problems using my PC to create scenes in 2012 and then having my O300s render them.

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Since I'm in the "current generation" of newer programmers, I figured I'd reply.

At 10 years old I got into programming from a May/June/July (I can't recall exactly) 1995 issue of Boys Life , there an article about programming, specifically QBasic. I started plugging away at it on my 486 DX2-66mhz PC. From then on I scoured through all of my dad's Visual Basic, C and Perl books in the pre-unlimited internet days (128k T-Online ISDN was very expensive in Germany back in 97-2000, maybe still is?). Once I had unlimited ASDL (and later cable) in 2000, the scouring continued into C++, OpenGL, SDL, PHP, C# etc.

I can only imagine if I had the resources kids have today back when I first started diving in how much farther along I would be. The one negative that I see with kids today though is the instant gratification/laziness seems to only get worse with every year. If the kids don't pick it up instantly, they drop it and move onto something else or simply adopt the "Copy & Paste" Method, without actually knowing what they are doing. Those kids can churn out code, whether it is there own or a concatenation of theirs and MSDN, but when asked to do something outside of the Samples folder, they say it is impossible (I have had a CIO/Senior Programmer of a Vendor say as such in the last year multiple times).

Another thing I see as problematic going forward is that kids (and my generation) learn something once and never wanting to keep themselves current, which is especially bad if you're doing C# for instance, in which there are always new ways to do things coming out of Microsoft (Had a WCF Primer over Email to a Senior Architect a few weeks back, still don't think he really understands the power it has over a typical SOAP Service, but that's another story). I find myself spending almost all of my free time keeping up in C#, SQL Server, Architecture Patterns and older books based on PymbleSoftware's (thank you again) suggestions in the past. I don't know anyone else personally between the 3 vendors my employer outsources to that devote their time to it, but I don't see another way to call myself a Senior Programmer if I didn't keep myself current and accepted long ago that this came with the job.

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SAQ wrote:
guardian452 wrote:
(Shall I forward this by saying I finished my BSEET earlier this year?)

I went to a school were we had to solder together our own boards before we could program our 8051 MCUs in assembler and then interface said 8051s in assembler to all sorts of random hardware: displays, ps/2 keyboards, etc... We learned about vacuum tubes, tesla coils, jacobs ladders, radio transmissions... analog semiconductors... power distribution, computer programming, telecom (old-fashioned, we had a class 5 pstn switch to play with), a bit of welding.. .


Sweet program, though EE seems not to have suffered as much decay as CS in general. I'm still pretty convinced that assembler should be taught to advanced HS/beginning college students so they have a better feel for how the computer does things. Then move on to the HLLs.

Couldn't agree more, the best CS class I ever took in college was CS238:x86 Assembly taught by the Program Manager of the NASA Environmental Monitoring Satellites. The guy was super sharp and learned so many good principles that carry with me today. All of the other courses, especially the Java based ones looking back didn't teach me anything other than how to solve some un-real world problem (god help current gen students who don't learn outside of class surviving as a Junior Programmer). Granted I did college kind of backwards, about 6 months after that assembly class I got a PHP/Oracle Full Time job so I put school on the back burner for a year and then did 1 or 2 classes a semester online at UMD to finish up.

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hamei wrote:
Adrenaline wrote:
Since I'm in the "current generation" of newer programmers, I figured I'd reply.

So, Adrenaline ... since you've outed yourself, let me ask a question or two :

Why are "developers" incompetent nitwits ? Go look at half the websites on the Internet. Put simply, they are nonfunctional shit. To extend that thought, much of what I have to deal with that's computerized is also semi-functional shit. Maybe that's strictly in userland but from what I've seen of humanity, it's unlikely that everything in userland is crap while everything in professional-land is wonderful.

If you'd like to know, I can tell you why many manufactured goods nowadays stink ....


I think the lack of caring and the pursuit of simply getting a paycheck (at least in the DC Metro area) is the reason for that. There's few and far between "good" developers, so the IT Consulting companies hire what they can, send them off to work on some client's "big" project and the new employee does just enough and maybe visually gives a decent job. While under the hood, it's the most spaghetti mess of code you've ever seen. The client doesn't know any better until they eventually hire either another vendor or an internal programmer and the consultant company reaps in the $100-$200/hr from the client to pay the $20-60/hr programmer. I've been on both sides of that equation. On one hand being the consultant looking in, learning the trade as I went along, looking back yeah I made some questionable decisions 6 years ago with how some things were implemented, but never a blatant disregard of quality/functionality that my co-workers at the time did. Now I'm an internal programmer looking back at the worst code I have ever seen and even telling my boss yesterday that we really need to set aside a month to start from scratch on the complete disaster that is one of our products. The sad part is that I originally architected it nearly 3 years ago, got put onto other projects and am now just going to "fix" things as the vendor couldn't figure the bugs out. In the process of "fixing" things, they made it look like a group of 15 year olds were learning C#.

So I am with you hamei, I have only met 1 other programmer in my area of the world out of the 20-30 I have worked with that I would consider a "good" programmer. Maybe other parts of the country (or world) are better, I don't know.

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