The collected works of TeamBlackFox - Page 4

Yeah, I know. Luckily DHJJ is in Chicago, so its not that bad on shipping. If my friend can afford it, he'll probably go for it.

I just got the Fuel working. Loose connections. The hinv says its only 2GB RAM, with a single back dead . Lying fuckhead of a seller, but its still a bargain so I'm not gonna complain. Gotta install IRIX now to find out if its a V10 or V12.

IRIX is very OpenGL heavy, but again as robespierre said its different from rendering. Mostly the OpenGL comes in handy for what he said, games, video editing and other graphically intensive tasks. Keep in mind, many CGI studios used tech for many, many years after it was replaced. I think Fox Animation ( Titan AE ) used either Indys or Indigo2s for the 3D of that movie. I could be wrong, I'm kinda drunk right now.

I got it from a company called CMI here in Virginia. They called a client of mine I lent some help with doing some IRIX installs for a few O350 render farms, said they had some SGIs come in from a local DoD contractor. I headed over after my client got all of their rackmounts. All they had left was this Fuel, and 2 Challenge M that had seen better days. I salvaged some network cards and RAM from the Challenge Ms and took the Fuel home. As I said, I have a client in the area who uses these for CGI/rendering because they've never seen the need to upgrade.

vishnu wrote: Is anybody on the irc channel these days? I've meant to check it out a million times but then I remember I can no longer compile my fave irc client. smirc, in case you had to know...

I jump in on occasion. I use irssi. Not BSD-licensed, so not the most ideal for me, but it works better than most I've tried.

Also, for the record, what hamei's talking about regarding drunken shrimp, its neither white wine or turpentine. Its 50% ABV sorghum-based vodka. Its good with Sichuan or Hunan food, but its got a funky taste and odor by itself. The confusion stems from the characters, it literally means "white alcohol" and a mistranslation into "white wine" is very common. Also, I can attest to drunken shrimp being tasty. Had them in Beijing, but I did pussy out and behead and shell them before eating. I tried asking the waitress in broken Mandarin for a knife, but apparently I asked for a dagger, per my tour guide. He kindly cleared the confusion, and I was promptly brought a knife.

AFAIK Machinima is by definition realtime, so yes, it would be GL accelerated. But Iclone isn't available for IRIX, AFAIK. Theoretically, any realtime application will be accelerated. You're going to face bottlenecks with the CPU and GPU though, especially on older hardware. My Octane2 is roughly as good as an early AMD64 desktop at doing that stuff, but I put probably $500 in this system to get it where it is.

For a hi-res image with textured triangles you'd need a pretty hefty system to do that in realtime. Pre-rendered? You'd be able to do it with most of what you're going to find.

ajw99uk wrote: Is that for the people, or the computers, or both?

Computers.

Vishnu, seriously, try irssi out. Its a good terminal-based client and it works well.

NGINX is better than Apache by far.

What does Apache have that NGINX doesn't have? NGINX runs on almost any unix-like system, which is good enough for my use case, its not like I'm gonna go and get a Windows Azure VPS and run Apache on it, or run Apache on OpenVMS, they have their own webservers which are better tied to those OSes. NGINX uses far less memory than Apache does and can handle more connections at once. NGINX has a BIND-like file config, Apache has nasty XML. Apache's under little more restrictive license, and has know security issues. Never heard of any issues with NGINX.

Eh I just think Apache stopped being KISS after the 2.x release.

Yeah Vishnu, of course you can use a modern day computer to do that, but that's no fun. And its funny because my Octane *feels* faster than my i5 school laptop for about a 25% of what I do.

josehill wrote: I love "interface responsiveness." Hit the return key or click on something on a reasonable IRIX machine, and the machine feels like it immediately starts doing what you asked it to do. On a current laptop, there is an ever-so-slightly perceptible moment where it feels like the machine's mind is somewhere else, probably looking for some kewl visual effect to show you or figuring out a way to send all your personal data to some botnet controller somewhere.

Indeed this feels the case on GaNoU/Leenux and used to be on FreeBSD, until I switched to i3wm on FreeBSD. I still use i3's stacking mode a lot and I want to see if I can somehow enable the 4DWM/CDE mouse over window = active behavior, although i3's vi keybindings are workable for sure. I'm just happy a few pieces of GPL are gone off those boxes.

Are you ipv6 only now duck? I'm still stuck on ipv4 here in Virginia with Verizon FiOS.

tingo wrote: Too many versions of the irix clone script show up in search. Can anyone point to the most up to date version?

This is a script for DEC OSF/1 also known as Tru64, not IRIX.

Can somebody send me some drop-in, properly wired Origin3x0 fans? I just had one drop into my lap for a song, so I'm looking to keep it as a silent 24/7 system.

I got a good offer on an O3x0 R-brick. Am I able to use these with an O3x0 system, assuming I have the craylink cables?

The IR Graphics are a league above IMPACT and VPro. I've spent a little time on an Onyx2, IR3, quad 400MHz and 8GB RAM. Its very fast, but what IR is good for primarily is for is high performance 3D visualization and rasterization, you wouldn't want an IR workstation as your everyday system, the desksides consume over a kW of power, and the rackmounts require 220V power. Plus my friend told me an Onyx2 weighs in at over 300lbs.

Of course the VPro series is better at processing, but an IR3 or IR4 can easily blow them away on most tasks.

Sure, so long as you don't surpass the technical limitations of the system. This is true for any computer.

The original IR, for polys, 7 million textured, lighted and anti-aliased triangles per second.

As far as resolutions go, the IR can go up to 1080p, but this depends on various things including colour depth, refresh rate etc. The thing about the SGI graphics architecture is that there's significant flexibility with regards to how the system works. The main difference between the IR through the IR4 is the raster and texture memory available, they're all built around the same core graphics system. The IR4 has 1GB of texture memory per RM11 board and 2.5GB for example. But these systems are still widely used, especially the IR3 and IR4, so you're going to be looking at thousands of dollars. Plus, they're insanely static sensitive.

The V10 and V12 has far less memory available, but they're much more practical for a workstation. As I said, thebulbguy has had his electric bill go over $1000/month at times, and he has so many systems its not even funny.

Trekiej,

You're gonna pay out of the nose for anything with the name Onyx attached to it. Probably over $1,000 USD after shipping. When it comes to SGIs, I highly recommend as a collector myself to cut your teeth on a cheaper and lighter model. An SGI Octane dual 300 with a V6, for example, can still drive a display at 1920x1080. Can it do HD video? Not from what I've seen with common encodings like h.264, XviD, or the dreaded WMV, but its capable of playing Quake 3 Arena acceptably and many other common tasks. I've seen Octanes with V6 or V8s for sub-$300, and unless you're planning to do something with it for your job, it has most of what you'd ever need.

What about adding an A/C vent to the closet?

ivelegacy wrote: anyone has experience with a word processor for IRIX ?
i do not like OpenOffice, and i need a Word application

AbiWord is decently compatible with MS Word.

Optimization, and perhaps other issues with rendering/bugs in that binary. When I get my development box up and running I'll look more into it, and look into porting some more games.

You're right that I haven't bought/sold one personally, but I was VERY close to getting one. The freight quote from NH to NoVA totaled the system out to over $1000, and the system was only $650. I'm just speaking from experience with *trying* to buy one. Of course, I'll yield to your authority Guardian, as I've not one myself.

I'd get one if I could take it with me overseas when I move. Hmm, maybe if I can get over Aquaphobia I can take a boat...

Still looking, I need quieter fans than the stock ones.

Of course not. You're asking the impossible.

Same, but its beer for me that I'm cleaning off of it. Also, as an aside, the username VenomousPinecone paints quite a painful picture.

Curious, what size fan does the Octane use in the top and PSU fans? I'm buying fans to update and replace in my systems, so I wanted to buy them all at once to save some money. Any special connectors I need to be aware of?

I don't know how many kWh we pay, but between me, my roommate and his boyfriend, we paid $400 this month to Virginia Dickhole Power Co. His house is ancient though, has so many air leaks its not even funny.

Trekiej wrote: I still think that SGI machines are cool, great, awesome, excellent, even if they are new or used.

Of course. They're ten-fold more powerful than even an Amiga 4000T, but again, remember they suffered a similar fate. I'm still laughing at the 4K question Rick, that was just priceless man.

Sounds like there's an issue with your memory. Have you tried removing the memory so only one or two sticks is installed?

I could be wrong, but didn't SGI have their own brand of Linux on this? Could also ask other members like Adrenaline if they have any ideas.

Replaced the fan in the PSU, system is soo much quieter. I'll leave the other fan for another day.

Still looking? I got in one that's a little rougher around the edges but still usable. $50 shipped to St. Petersburg.

ivelegacy wrote: if i write that I want to use wordeditor to document my things (things that MUST use a word editors features like notes/bold/italics/underlined/font/size etc etc ) i perfectly know the difference between a text editor and a word editor !

WordPerfect and other word processing applications on IRIX follow two rules:

They're old, and proprietary, like WordPerfect.

They're old and open source, like OpenOffice.

If you're a Gentoo MIPS developer, why not use a Gentoo box with remote X to pull a recent Libreoffice or Apache OpenOffice copy over. Otherwise, updating Abiword or providing us with another productivity application from BSD or Linux-land would be appreciated. You know the old adage: If you don't like how someone else does it, you might as well do it yourself.

Yeah that's what I meant foetz.

:shrug: I've gotten my home infra to the point that browsing the internet from Sakuya or Alice isn't really a priority. Just have my FreeBSD or NetBSD boxes download it onto an NFSv3 share, and I have it as fast, if not faster, than trying to use Fireflop or Dicklow.

I've ordered one of these very cards. I don't have an Altix to test with though.

I used a standard 3-pin 120mm fan.