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fu wrote: (i think) i just created the relevant category O2 Compatible Hardware . i'll start working on articles (drives, monitors, etc) later

Indeed you have. I marked your changes as "patrolled" which means that they will not be rolled back without at least a warning.

fu wrote: something else i just noticed (dave is right: wiki looks serious, threads are funky):

... and can get more serious over time... Something to look back on what you have cleaned up and edited with pride.. At least in my opinion.

fu wrote: the aggregators include non sgi-made, community-contributed pieces of hardware (some require hacks, other are kinda sorta working). O2 Compatible Hardware sounds more formal (and may also include sgi-made hardware?)

we might want to think about that and tag each piece of hardware with some sort of disclaimer (dear user, please don't search for official drivers but take a look @ this hack) or select only the ones that work 100% hack-free

magellan, your idea sounds sleek, i guess with decent content ready, it'll take just some good (hyper)linking à la wiki.

I think that works... I think nothing of moving stuff between machines.. The DAT drive on my Origin 300s came with an Origin 200 bracket. I move U160/U320 SCA hard drives between machines without hesitation. And you can include parts of articles inside other articles and go nuts with the linking, if you so choose.


R.

True for almost all SCSI devices, but the situation can get more complicated for other devices, like certain PCI cards. (Apologies in advance if I misunderstood the context.)

PymbleSoftware wrote: I think that works... I think nothing of moving stuff between machines.. The DAT drive on my Origin 300s came with an Origin 200 bracket. I move U160/U320 SCA hard drives between machines without hesitation. And you can include parts of articles inside other articles and go nuts with the linking, if you so choose

josehill wrote: For example, in the Hardware: SGI Workstations: O2 Compatible Hardware category, there would be individual articles for each topic in the current O2 Aggregator:

• SCSI HardDisks
• SCSI PCI Cards
• Fibre Channel Cards
• FireWire (IEEE-1394) Cards
• Network Cards
• CD-ROM Drives
• CD-RW Drives
• DVD-ROM Drives
• DVD-R/RW

all right, i followed jose's suggestion and now the O2 Compatible Hardware category contains the 9 articles above. just basic formatting for now, looks like notes about hacks/faqs can be included (nicely) for each class of component.

compare the above to the current octane take which is integrated into the main article .

good enough to keep adding the rest? or paint everything white and start afresh?

Looks great!

Very nice!

Nicely done fu!

BTW - after everyone has had a a day or two to catch up with the wiki-related posts here in the O2 Hardware Aggregator, I'll be splitting them off to join the New Nekochan Wiki thread. That will keep the O2 Hardware Aggregator on topic, and for long-term storage/posterity they'll be a better fit in the neko-wiki topic.

roger rockers, i'll keep adding then

just wanted to know if its (currently rough) form/layout is good for everyone.

minor update, magellan offered help. he'll be adding the fuel aggregator in a similar fashion. since all agree on form/structure, lets take further discussion on the wiki-boogie thread

(rec, clean/split whenever you find appropriate, chiming just to acknowledge. please delete this post too)

Hello,

I'm currently working with Fu on the hardware aggregators wikification.

He created a page http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/index.php/DVD-ROM_Drives that list the O2 compatible devices. How do I create the same but for the Fuel?

I'm not a wiki expert but willing to help.

Thank you.

Magellan

magellan wrote: He created a page http://www.nekochan.net/wiki/index.php/DVD-ROM_Drives that list the O2 compatible devices. How do I create the same but for the Fuel?

I suggest calling it DVD-ROM Drives (Fuel Compatible) to make it obvious which platform we are talking about. I'll go ahead and add "(O2 Compatible)" to the O2 pages.

As long as we're dealing with SGI hardware of roughly the same era <O2, Octane, O2k, Onyx2, IP35, attributing specific SCSI devices to individual hardware platforms might be a little too fine-grained <SCSI devices such as hard drives, DVDs, CD-ROMs, CDRWs, but *not* PCI SCSI controllers> . I've worked my way through pretty much all of those systems, and can't recall a SCSI device that worked on one but not the others. I might have just been lucky, but if not, it'd save quite a bit of wiki creation time.

If a specific device appears in only one or two of the forum aggregators, it would be simple enough to add a note mentioning "not yet tested on platform X".

Ditto for third-party monitors, and a possibly a few other categories as well.

I agree with what you said about SCSI devices, but I still lean towards keeping it separated by platform. I think that the idea is that a device should be on the list only if it is confirmed to work on a particular machine. It reduces the (admittedly, for SCSI, unlikely) possibility of time wasted trying to get an incompatible device working after reading an ambiguous compatibility report.

We could always put a note in the individual articles that SCSI devices that are confirmed to work on one type of system are likely to work on contemporary systems.

In any case, the important thing is to get the content up on the wiki, so if folks don't agree with my suggestion, no problem -- wikify as you see fit!

recondas wrote: As long as we're dealing with SGI hardware of roughly the same era <O2, Octane, O2k, Onyx2, IP35, attributing specific SCSI devices to individual hardware platforms might be a little too fine-grained <SCSI devices such as hard drives, DVDs, CD-ROMs, CDRWs, but *not* PCI SCSI controllers> . I've worked my way through pretty much all of those systems, and can't recall a SCSI device that worked on one but not the others. I might have just been lucky, but if not, it'd save quite a bit of wiki creation time.

If a specific device appears in only one or two of the forum aggregators, it would be simple enough to add a note mentioning "not yet tested on platform X".

Hi,

I must say I like recondas idea better (no offense to josehill).

I'd prefer to have a wiki category "Compatible Hardware" and in it, a page per type of device (Firewire cards, Network cards, …) and for each device on the page we can just flag with which system it work…

My 2cents.

Magellan

The wiki blasts through 500 articles recently. Hurrah. \o/
Thanks to all those contributors.


R.

500 cheerio!

i'm working on the SoG monitors and testing a few layouts. will get back to the wiki-boogie sometime next week when i escape the labyrinths of a wooden stage.

(thanks for the rapid edits regan :))

Could someone with admin rights add some citation templates to our wiki? They're really helpful for adding references.
Here's how to do it:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Temp ... to_another

Citation seems to be a good all-rounder, more are here .

GL1zdA wrote: Could someone with admin rights add some citation templates to our wiki? They're really helpful for adding references.
Here's how to do it:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Temp ... to_another

Citation seems to be a good all-rounder, more are here .

I will look into it if Pete does not beat me to it and its something in my powers to do.


R.

I'm looking at it now

nekonoko wrote: I'm looking at it now

Thanks.

R.

Edit: False alarm; looks like it got it.

nekonoko wrote: Edit: False alarm; looks like it got it.

Thanks!