The collected works of uridium - Page 1

G'day,

Anyone have a mirror or alternate link for this? 404 basically. Trolled additional downloads and nekoware but no love. :-\

Ah bless ye and all that sail in you!! <3 <3

Hi, just thought I'd share this one. I recently bought for $1 a brand NEW VAX and documented the unpacking. Some of you may feel the desire to wax nostalgia. I have documented it here:

http://deviate.fi/~uridium/newvax/newvax.html

Take it easy.

I do have some, but you can get PAK's from the OpenVMS Hobbyist site if you wish for free.

You just need a DECUS/Encompass membership. There's a few free ones around if you hunt some out.

Go here: http://www.openvmshobbyist.org/licenses.php

Punch in your details as per your chapter membership number (they will need to push your details to the hobbyist site ..usually takes a week and you can email them to hurry up *Grin*). This thing generates license for a year.

*Grin* Nah, your doin it wrong!

1) Bring old girl up in a conversational boot.
2) do a:
$ LICENSE DELETE *<return>
3) By hand type in 2 licenses for VAX-VMS && UCX (So base + UCX)
4) by hand run:
$ @[VMS$COMMON.SYSMGR]TCPIP$CONFIG.COM
Start up your tcpip stack. Then edit your 104pak to remove the UCX license, or license will get sand
when you process it and say "Oop! already done you.. stopping!" Then ftp the 104pak over and @run it.
Reboot and your done. You only need two though.

Job done! But yes, your making lots of work for yourself. You can also if you want to de-register it quickly go and remove the LMF$LICENSE file but I see no point when step 2 works. Also, you can do a nice DCL script to monitor machines and mail you when it's getting low. I have a daily batch queue that reruns a bunch of scripts I don't want scheduled that checks it. That makes it useful. I have the vax4000's on hobbyist licenses so I've become quite accustomed to doing it all over the years.

Take care.

That's a bit pretty

The two ds20e's here (Although one has serious problems), one had 7.0, the other 7.2-1.

http://www.compaq.com/alphaserver/firmw ... /ds20.html

MOP or update floppy? I've always had trouble with the floppies.

There's also the *.world cd image they used to publish. Sort of a double-clutch boot with -CURRENT firmwarez for *.machines. That might be easier .. but it's usually a massive download.

ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/alphaserver/firmwa ... se/v73.zip

Might pay you to have a troll around in the directory.

Nice one Pymb. Looking forward to progress with it :>

I like the simm's. They look almost as large as the ones out of a DEC SPIM box or a HP9000 G-Class. Hawt.

So.. 2 cpu's? only 1 cpu card? Spec?

That's a bit hot.

Least either way it's 64bit capable. R4000 and up were, just SGI chose to be pansy's and not use it till R8k.

Nice! Hope the business things finish soon. Eager for next installment.

G'day Simon,

The HP-UX flavour I've rolled is actually messier than the IRIX one in so much as there's no nekoware there so I maintain all the dep software myself. So, to answer your question, yes, I could do a 64bit version because I do have a Allegro/c3750 lurking, but haven't. It's built on a little Staccato/A180C ( http://www.openpa.net/systems/hp_a180.html ). ldd for irssi looks like:


Usually the A180C is on because it eats around 1/3rd the juice of the c3750, is quieter and doesn't turn my room into a Pripyat Summer. Also it's more than enough horse power to run screen, mircnet, compiler, etc. I'm not currently using any package managment (depot, deb, rpm, rah rah), other than simple/unique version numbers for software in /opt. I used to roll .depots and have an /opt/skunkware and mirror it when I was at uni built and run off an old G40 (inferno) but gave up supporting it and the skunkware on 10.20 and 10.30 (yes there was a 10.30) years ago. Maybe worth while reviving it for 11i v1 for hobbyists given that HP is making rumblings about moth-balling it soonish.

Welcome to a tarball if you wish.

Take it easy.

Yep. v2 should be for itanic anyway. The supplimentary v2 update for 11i I've seen go tits up a few times.

Yes, HP dropped support for *ALL* 700 series machines.. which means "All Workstations" .. so no more graphics.. ever! That was around v2 time so your FX10pro won't work out of the box. You can get them running on 11iv3 with a lot of hack-fu from the v1 modules + libs, but seriously, unless your good with a hex editor and PA-Risc Asm, give it up.

FX10pro's actually quite a nice card. I have two of them. They'll Quake3 without breaking a sweat.

11iv3 they dropped support for anything 700 completely.. so you can't even install 11iv3 on a 700 class machine (and just get disabled fb). You have to find an 800 that can install it then brain-swap the disk over and change the boot order. I did it off an old rp4400 at my old work. You also need to replace some of the scsi drivers or it won't claim the controller and boot (which is an odd one because the older rp3410's are still supported and have the same scsi controller chip.. topic for another time).

Suffice to say, that if you want an "out of the box" PHUX experience on an Allegro, you want 11iv1. Feel free to send Carly Fiorina hate mail. I don't think Bob Hurd cares much either :~(

Regards,
Al.

G'day Whiter.

No clue about "Nekoware standards" .. hopefully as with many collections of "standards" there is "Many" to choose from. I would say no. As stated earlier, I merely get the latest nekoware -- irssi. Then build irssi to sit in /opt/irssi-0.8.15 .. thus not effecting anything "The real" (you??) irssi maintainer might do. This is 0.8.15. I have an earlier 0.8.15-rc1 if you wish.

Regards,
Al.

recondas:

Nifty. That's actually quite easy to follow, so thank you. I'll make a note of this for future crimes.

I do wonder though about the R10000 CFLAG option. I'll have to go and look that up. Only thing I have to build on over here is an 180Mhz R5k moosehead.

Of interest.. is there any m68k cpu's in it? Unisys did the dogey and for quite a while was producing a lot of machines, mostly under the series "Unisys 5000" and some 6000's .. which were Arete (with the little dongle over the second 'e') machines badge engineered (tm) to be Unisys's. They were 1-24x m68k boxes that could be run as big-SMP or lock-stepped in various configurations and ran a pretty vanilla SysVr[3,3.5,4] derivative called ARIX .. again by Arete till Unisys acquired them whole-lot and they were moved into the fold. For the era.. very nicely designed machines. They even had level 2 cache. My old 5000-series 5085 was dual 25Mhz mc68020's with 33mhz m68882's, proper butterfly and m68851 MMU's, 16+16+8mb RAM, and cache I remember oo'ing over being 25ns cycle time and there being 128kb per processor board. Also they were VME backplanes afair. A friend of mine back in perth used to be in posession of a bigger machine that was 8-way 030, but it had a strange series number (I never did keep up on the whole Unisys/Sperry stuff).

Regards,
Al

@miod

/240's are nice, but that R4000 cpu will usually work in anything. I used to have one years ago I donated to UCC that I'd brainswapped into a 5000/20. worked like a trooper with Ultrix 4.5 and afairc NetBSD ~1.6 era when I was hacking around on it.

I've had it running on a King Gecko 712/100 with 192mb ram. It can spawn a getty on a serial console, but requires a frame buffer for the install. Also, you'll later need to do the two-step boot to get it to not try and log into a NIS domain.. afair it defaults to one and you finish the install and suddenly buggar! you can't log in

Frame buffer required to the best of my knowledge. Sorry for the bad news.

Nice! looking forward to hearing more of your adventures.

If I'm reading the Oracun disclosure case info's correctly, it appears that there "was" a project that got HP-UX to IPL on x86 to a rudimentary userland level and it was cancelled prior to staff being for the high-jump and everything moving to India.

I'd kill to see VMS on x86 (Purely to save it.. because I don't see them ever bringing back the VAX). The port to alpha shows pretty clearly you don't need exotic priv levels in your hardware any more.

Sorry.. I ment IA64.. "alpha" indeed.. brainfart. IA64 doesn't have the "hardware assist" modes of VAX/Alpha so we at least know VMS on x86 is possible.

4000-M300, 4000-M90, 4000-VLC, 3100-m76, 3100-m10/20(e) (few ..they seem to breed), uVAX-II (3).
Alpha ES45, ES40, DS20 *2, DS10
pdp-11/23Plus,11/70, 11/84
DECServer 5400 (non-living).

One question.. how big's the cat?

True..there will always be emulators. I though am one of those odd individuals that really enjoys restoring, managing and dealing with the actual hardware and issues, reading about things.

Emulators have always felt like "cheating" .. but I'm sure there'll be a day when getting the hardware will simply be impossible.

I reackon they should've returned to "Albert" the Cheshire cat from the early VMS days. That warms my heart.

Did RSX-11/RSTS-E have a mascot?

Pr0n.

Nice! Good to see it's in good condition and has a loving home

Do love the warning note.

Ha! you're right. RSTS .. hurrah google. The bulldog was the key.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSTS/E

Hi Sir Duck!

Yeah.. what is the deal with that console? Guessing it's just a wallpaper in the background and some punter's project looking glass desktop? ..or am I completely wrong?

Al