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Aren't there any archived versions of Houdini 6.5 mirrored somewhere?

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I'm not sure about the Indy , but I read it should several Linux distributions ( Debian for sure) as well as some, if not all, *BSD variants.

I don't know how efficient an Indy is, I've never owned one. But, if you want to run a nice, efficient, firewall (and more not), you could also get one of those ARM -based barebones and run OpenBSD on it. If you'd like to do a tiny bit more than just a firewall, the ARM -based Iyonix PC is also a good choice. In good ARM fashion, no fan required. I think you can even trick those things out with USB ports and SCSI-controllers. As ARM Linux is not extremely common, it should therefore be quite safe too. But then, the very same can also be said about MIPS of course. ;)

Just my ¢2...

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I almost forgot about posting my own system! To make up for the delay, I've also included some pictures; which I took ten days ago (I couldn't upload anything to the Nekochan gallery , so I hosted them elsewhere. Some people in the IRC channel have seen them already. ;) )


hinv -vm
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Location: /hw/module/001c01/node
IP53_2CPU Board: barcode NCG143     part 030-1869-001 rev -C
Location: /hw/module/001c01/IXbrick/xtalk/11
WS_INT_53 Board: barcode NBY973     part 030-1881-007 rev -A
Location: /hw/module/001c01/IXbrick/xtalk/12
ODY128B1_2 Board: barcode NPL864     part 030-1884-005 rev -B
Location: /hw/module/001c01/IXbrick/xtalk/15
WS_INT_53 Board: barcode NBY973     part 030-1881-007 rev -A
Location: /hw/module/001c01/IXbrick/xtalk/15/pci-x/0/1/ioc4
IO9 Board: barcode MTC546     part 030-1771-005 rev -A
2 700 MHZ IP35 Processors
CPU: MIPS R16000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.1
FPU: MIPS R16010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 2.1
CPU 0 at Module 001c01/Slot 0/Slice A: 700 Mhz MIPS R16000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 2.1. Scache: Size 4 MB Speed 350 Mhz  Tap 0xc
CPU 1 at Module 001c01/Slot 0/Slice C: 700 Mhz MIPS R16000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 2.1. Scache: Size 4 MB Speed 350 Mhz  Tap 0xc
Main memory size: 8192 Mbytes
Instruction cache size: 32 Kbytes
Data cache size: 32 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 4 Mbytes
Memory at Module 001c01/Slot 0: 8192 MB (enabled)
Bank 0 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 1 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 2 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 3 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 4 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 5 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 6 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 7 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Integral SCSI controller 2: Version IDE (ATA/ATAPI) IOC4
CDROM: unit 0 on SCSI controller 2
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version QL12160, low voltage differential
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 1)
Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 2)
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version QL12160, low voltage differential
Integral SCSI controller 3: Version IEEE1394 SBP2
Integral SCSI controller 4: Version Fibre Channel QL2342 Port 1, 33 MHz PCI
Integral SCSI controller 5: Version Fibre Channel QL2342 Port 2, 33 MHz PCI
Disk drive: unit 32 on SCSI controller 5 (unit 32)
Disk drive: unit 33 on SCSI controller 5 (unit 33)
Disk drive: unit 34 on SCSI controller 5 (unit 34)
Disk drive: unit 35 on SCSI controller 5 (unit 35)
Disk drive: unit 36 on SCSI controller 5 (unit 36)
Disk drive: unit 37 on SCSI controller 5 (unit 37)
Disk drive: unit 38 on SCSI controller 5 (unit 38)
Disk drive: unit 39 on SCSI controller 5 (unit 39)
Disk drive: unit 40 on SCSI controller 5 (unit 40)
Disk drive: unit 41 on SCSI controller 5 (unit 41)
Disk drive: unit 42 on SCSI controller 5 (unit 42)
Disk drive: unit 43 on SCSI controller 5 (unit 43)
Disk drive: unit 44 on SCSI controller 5 (unit 44)
Disk drive: unit 45 on SCSI controller 5 (unit 45)
Disk drive: unit 46 on SCSI controller 5 (unit 46)
Unknown type 13: unit 47 on SCSI controller 5
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty3
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty4
Graphics board: V12
Integral Gigabit Ethernet: tg0, module 001c01, PCI bus 1 slot 4
Iris Audio Processor: version MAD revision 1, number 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x100a) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x104c, device 0xac28) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1216) PCI slot 3
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x14e4, device 0x1645) PCI slot 4
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1412, device 0x1724) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x104c, device 0x8024) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x2312) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x2312) PCI slot 2
IOC4 firmware revision 79
IOC3/IOC4 external interrupts: 1
HUB in Module 001c01/Slot 0: Revision 2 Speed 200.00 Mhz (enabled)
IP35prom in Module 001c01/Slot n0: Revision 6.210
DMediaPro DM10 FW option: unit 0, revision 1.1.0
[updated: Feb. 21st, 2009]


gfxinfo
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Graphics board 0 is "ODYSSEY" graphics.
Managed (":0.0") 1920x1200
BUZZ version B.2
PB&J version 1
128MB memory
Banks: 4, CAS latency: 3
Monitor 0 type: IVM 22020
Channel 0:
Origin = (0,0)
Video Output: 1920 pixels, 1200 lines, 59.90Hz (1920x1200_60f)



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I just noticed that on properly calibrated monitors these pictures don't exactly come out as being of the best quality imaginable , as they were shot with poor lighting conditions and without a fixture. I can upload (an)other/new one(s), if anyone is interested...

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sybrfreq wrote:
hmmm, I think I like the tezro light fx even more than the octane :twisted:

It's quite bright too!


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eMGee wrote:
I almost forgot about posting my own system!

Looks pretty nice, em ! I believe to get the photos into the gallery you ftp them up. Then neko puts them into a gallery manually.

Thanks for clearing that up. I was a bit confused by the option for registration, but I guess that's to be able to post comments.


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What version of Irix are you running ?

At the moment IRIX 6.5.26, but I intend on updating to 6.5.28. Although, I must say, I'm rather satisfied with .26 at the moment. Ian (Mapleson) was kind enough put it on a SCSI HDD I ordered from him.


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I ask because I also used to get this :
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Now I get
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The "Fabric Disk" is actually a firewire disk and used to show up the same as yours. I'm reluctantly using 6.5.30, not sure when the reporting blew up. The firewire disk is definitely not on Integral SCSI controller 1. Neither is the firewire CF card reader. The CD-ROM is .

Hoping it's just a reporting issue and not a symptom of something truly fubar. Not sure what changed it or when :(

I see what you mean. But, does the media work? I'm still messing around with my Maxtor OneTouch external FW-HDD enclosure (with a non-original HDD in it, since it died... like many of these particular drives; the enclosure itself is very nice actually). Anyway, no luck so far. Although, I won't give up yet!


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The forum itself supports image attachments - there's no need to host elsewhere unless you really want to.

Okay, understood. Thanks for letting me know, I'm still somewhat new here. On that same note, I have to say, this is a great forum! In fact, so far the best I've ever been on in a long while (since od[force] ). Great community. :)


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He, a Tezro in NL :o

Where does it come from? Most Tezros were Discreet stations but this one doesn't have the usual digital media or fibre channel options.

I want a Tezro ;)

I managed to buy it rather bare , with no internal DVD-drive and such. I believe it did come from a studio indeed, like the vast majority of these amazing systems, and of course stripped of all its additional expansions and options (FC/SCSI controllers, VBOB and so on). Besides, the DM2-5 range is barely of any use to an individual anyway. It's not like I have matching broadcasting equipment here. At the moment I don't even have room for an output monitor. By the way, since you said ‘were,’ I hear they're still being used on quite some scale (I know at least one facility in Amsterdam that still uses at least one of them, as their Flame suite). I guess this is a contributing factor as to why they're not very common still on places like eBay . The same thing could be said of the VPro -based Octane2 systems and even the Fuel series, although to a lesser degree. In fact, I heard that even the old Octane is used on a certain scale. It reportedly still does well, I presume for non-HD or generally non-broadcast work. Although, that'll probably change real soon in 2009, with the whole HD standardization over in the USA...

As for fibre channel, I'm not that rich! ;) But, I might invest on it in the future. Not before a 4×1GHz CPU ‘update’ though, but who knows. Actually, to bring up the earlier DM10 (and its issues), which I specially got since I was planning on using some of my older IDE-ATA HDDs via FireWire . Although, as I said, without any luck so far. For the rest, and performance-wise, I have pretty capable SCSI drives (15K and 10K RPM respectively, in the internal bays).

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Nice system! I remember, back when I was 15 years old and relatively new to CG, I dreamed about owning one of those. I remember that I became so curious, I one day picked up the telephone in an adventurous mood and called SGI to ask how much one of their lowest spec.'ed O2 systems would cost. I remember the price was extremely high, especially for a 15-year-old kid, being something like ~ƒ15,000 (Dutch guilders; the equivalent of $8,500 or $9000, depending on the value of the US$ at the time)...

Is it true that the R5K O2 s somehow perform better than some R10K and R12K s? That's what I heard from some people, something I've picked up here on the forum as well in some threads. By the way, you should try to get an A/V-module (if you haven't acquired one already, in the meanwhile). That's undoubtedly one of the most interesting, and unique , features of the O2 among SGI visual workstations...

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Installed the DVD-drive in it about a week ago (as it was lacking one and really wanted one) and before that I managed to get my hands on an IBM -branded SpaceBall 5000 . Anyway, here are some pictures.

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sgtprobe wrote:
Oh, it's a beauty. Me wants.... A lot :lol:

/Jonas

Thanks, I'm real happy with it! Keep a good eye out on Swedish eBay , I saw one Tezro being sold by a Swedish post-production company not long ago. But it was extremely expensive though. :(

But, you're getting a Fuel soon. Same class roughly ( O3K ). On that same note, I do have some spare parts (from my Tezro ), like 1GB memory kits, to offer you (depending on how many RAM there'll be installed in the Fuel , of course).


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Whoa! sure looks high end. even looks cool with the room lights on.

Good point, it's a remarkably photogenic computer chassis! It can look so different with different lighting, the color can shift quite drastically also. Sometimes it has a very blue'ish hue, most of the time dark indigo-purple.

It's a great case, opening it up and installing new DIMMs is a matter of removing the right-hand side panel (when frontally facing it) and then sliding the DIMMs into the banks/sockets. This is of course not unique to the Tezro , but it's still great. The Tezro is very ‘roomy’ for a SGI ‘desktop’ system, which allows great airflow and makes inspecting and maneuvering within the interior a lot more pleasant, to name a few things.

SGIs might be expensive, as everybody always says (and yes, it's true to some extent of course), but I wouldn't mind spending more money for this kind of quality!


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Is that glowing logo on the front, the expensive 3d engraved glass sgi logo, or am I mixing it up with the prisim.

It looks like it was engraved, or some other technique; I wouldn't know for sure, but it looks great. I've never seen a Prism case with my own eyes though.


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The Tezro is on my wish list either a rackmount unit or deskside box.

Those Origin300s you're selling are also pretty nice, right? Or is it the lack of graphics hardware? (On your site you mentioned you used them in your VR lab, for distributed rendering I presume?)

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Everything is expensive in Sweden, so I can only imagine how much that Tezro would have cost. Ouch.. :lol:

The €uro hasn't made life a lot cheaper for us either, but it was a while ago and just expensive in general (not just in relation to the Swedish crown).

I do remember that liquor is very expensive in Scandinavian countries, particularly in Sweden and Norway. Although, in supermarkets the price is not all that much higher than here I've noticed and in bars it's roughly the same. I wanted to buy a new battery for my Nikon D-SLR camera when I visited Norway in 2007. I didn't notice a huge difference in the pricing of electronics.


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I think My Fuel will have one memory slot available, since I ordered it with at single 2GB stick. So I might be interested of more memory later on. :)

I don't think there are O3K 2GB DIMMs (besides, I think it'd give memory errors, requiring sequential groupings). I'm quite positive that the largest amount is 1GB per DIMM for the O3K line. Which makes sense, since the memory limit is 8GB of the Tezro (tower; 16GB for the RM version) and 4GB for the Fuel if I'm not mistaken.

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sgtprobe wrote:
Oh, I do hope you are wrong, because Ian Mapleson is building a Fuel with just that spec for me right now. :P hehe

That's odd, maybe Ian could enlighten us a bit on this? I've never heard of 2GB O3K DIMMs. ( If they exist, I wonder if the limits could be overridden...)

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No, it has four. Below is a page from the Fuel user's guide, which you can download here — either in HTML or PDF format — and reproduce (i.e. print it at a print shop) for *free* from SGI TechPubs . (You should flip through it a bit, if you want to orientate and familiarize yourself with the Fuel already).

So, if you're interested in more RAM, I have a 1GB (2×512MB) O3K memory kit for you. (I sold two already).

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Formatting (low-level) can be done with fx in expert mode ( fx -x ), found under [ d ] ebug . I hope this will help you.

But, like others have already said, it isn't recommended to do a low-level format. Modern SGI machines and fast HDDs take less long to format, but it's mostly the risk.

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I've updated the Hinv print-out (with the QL2342 and HP DS 2400 FC disk array).

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I wonder what the Japanese men think of this phenomenon. I've heard they actually resent this a lot, I saw scans of Japanese magazines where they condemned this. Any information on that? (Japanese speakers that have heard of this also?)

Anyway, I'd never want to upset the Japanese. So I'll just stick to the beautiful blue-eyed blonde Dutch girls. ;)

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So there it is. Very nice, congratulations! More information and pictures will follow soon, I guess. ;)

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tomo wrote:
I'm using shake currently - but it is like killing flys with hammer. My tree in shake contents only these objects: 2xfile_in, layer and file out. Before shake I'v used gimp - but I must manually paste composited content to background image for every frame and then save to another file.

You mean in the regard that it only pays off going through the trouble of building a composite for more complex setups and operations? Because Shake itself sure is an extremely light-weight program for something as powerful as it. I don't know how well it runs on an O2 , like yours, but it flies on my machine.

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I picked up a cool irix-themed GTK2 one some time ago called 4dIndigo. screenshot (309k)

IRIX...?

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zizban wrote:

Now that's rather nice! Great find. I think I'm going to use that on my Linux server. (Though it's headless, I still run X on it, for via VNC ; some things are just a bit more pleasant to administer via a GUI, like moving files and directories around).

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dukzcry wrote:
Image

Didn't anybody think that Tezro curves looks like clot of menstruation blood and have a colour of McDonald's Grimace? :<

BTW, this HDD cage looks similar to Intel's one.

You sure have an ‘interesting’ imagination... :roll:

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modology wrote:
I have the same spec except only with 4GB of RAM. I gonna upgrade my RAM in the future to 8GB. Your case seems to be in very good condition with no scratch marks, great care you have

Thank you, I'm very happy with it. What does your setup look like? Do you have the entire VBOB, Lucid ADA , etc. hooked up? (With SD/HD VTR, broadcast monitor, etc. as well?)

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I also like the forum as it is currently. Plus, vBulletin has its own issues.

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modology wrote:
I barely use VBOB and LUCID since I can't afford to buy DV deck atm. Do you spend alot on your RAM?

That's a pity. But yes, it's pricey stuff. Not to mention you have to invest on XLR cables and what-not as well. I could go for a Lucid though, I didn't originally buy it (and I feel sorry for it now, since the seller had it for sale; but I thought I wouldn't have any use for one). My brother is very much into audio, so that's another reason.

As for the RAM, do you mean if it was expensive? Yes, compared to regular PC RAM rates, unfortunately it was. But very much worth it in my opinion; for one thing it'll allow high-res., like 2K and 4K (I've tested it and goes great). A good investment! Most Tezros out there have the 3GB minimum, which I find surprising. Though, perhaps years back the memory was even more expensive than it currently is. (Even for the big post-production facilities and the leasers, by the looks of it).


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Does your wacom 4D Mouse works in IRIX?

Yes it does. Doesn't yours work for you? Maybe Autodesk/Discreet's DLwacom doesn't support the mice? I'm not sure. Either way, I run the 4.80 Wacom IRIX driver (the last one that was released) and it works fine for me.

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Good question fzalfa. Either way, I'll try it out as soon as possible.

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It isn't my cup of tea either, but as recondas said, we're guests here and I'm very grateful for what Nekonoko (the admin.) provides us!

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I've recently ‘upgraded’ one of the internal HDDs, the SGI -branded 73 GB disk that came configured with the system originally) to a Fujitsu 300 GB disk (purchased from Ian). It's wonderful, and so silent too!

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modology wrote:
is it faster than the original sgi hdd? how much ian quote you? I might consider buying one of em

Yes it does, quite a bit too. Here are some SCSI HDD benchmarks that Ian performed recently. As I said it's also a lot more silent too, which is very pleasant. Check out his SCSI items page (though it isn't updated yet with the latest offerings), though you should probably e-mail him (so he can inform you about shipping rates also, see his site for the address [I won't post it here, to avoid possible spam-bots picking it up]).

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I don't trust (S)ATA HDDs, too many have died on me in the past. While I do have several (rather inevitable with peecees), but they're attached to my Linux file server system in a LVM array. So my Tezro can still benefit from it via NFS over gigabit, which works excellently.

Besides, adding extra internal HDDs into a Tezro is rather troublesome (space-wise). For a SATA disk I don't feel like possibly ruining the airflow/circulation or to let one rest on top of the DVD-ROM drive...

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Well, that certainly isn't my experience. Did you second-hand buy all those SCSI disks by any chance? The thing is, while mechanically speaking the drives may indeed suffer from the same sort of failures (bearings wearing out, to name something), SCSI and FC are often in the 10K and 15K+ RPM range, thus are better suited for RAID/LVM protection via mirroring and striping (being a lot faster). Aside reliability, about which opinions seem very mixed, the whole (P/S)ATA versus SCSI/FC discussion: You can't deny that SCSI and particularly FC outrun SATA easily. I haven't even mentioned iSCSI or SAS, the latter being an awkward hybrid of SCSI and SATA (in some regards) which appears to be making significant inroads...

Ian should probably contribute to this discussion, as an authority on storage and SCSI in particular. Recently he has been extensively running tests with all sorts of SCSI disks (including some of the most recent 300 GB 15Ks), see the link I've posted earlier for his benchmarks.

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Very nice, it looks great. I ought to check it out! (I'll try to as soon as I can).

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I just noticed your last post, with which I have to disagree or — let's say — just don't share (experience-wise). So, I'll add: I personally never had a SCSI disk fail on me to this date, plenty of SATA disks though. Maybe you shouldn't buy second-hand SCSI disks then? That'd seem like a more fair comparison too (as it's more likely that you'd buy new SATA ones, considering the price and availability). If that's what you meant with YMMV ( Your Mileage May Vary? [I'm not from North America, neither very aware of all expressions] ), then I guess that's it.

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I see, okay, thanks for clearing that up. By the way, I'm very happy with my recent 300 GB Fujitsu disk! It's very silent indeed.

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Now that is a very nice system there! That's one of the Octane2 s you got off ‘SGISTEVE’, isn't it? (For some reason he decided to ditch all of his SGI s, and very nice ones at that too). With a PCI card cage and three internal SCSI disks in the bays installed by the looks of it, you could run that in [software] RAID5 if you wanted to. :o

What do you use it for, are you into graphics much? Do you plan on expanding it with a PCI cards, like one or more FC-controllers? Either way, it's a beauty!

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Well, then a regular striped/mirrored setup via XLV, that should be good enough as well. :)

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I'd personally just save it out as an image sequence, transport it to any other system, from there just re-encode it to something else with whatever codecs at your disposal.

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It might, hardware-wise, but the license code will still most likely be based on an Octane configuration and thus probably won't work.

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Good suggestion, that'd be nice. I'm also into MIPS assembly programming myself.

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Another happy Photoshop IRIX user here, usually on dual R16Ks at 700 MHz. Like someone said, the only thing I more or less miss is multiple undo, as well as being able to map more than ~2 GB of memory as a swap/ “scratch” file (or whatever the limit was).

I see also a Solaris version mentioned, I never realized that. Did support end for that too with version 3.01?

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Very nice! Do you use it much? The mix of R12Ks and R14Ks seems interesting, is it noticeable in the way IRIX balances loads over them? Or barely? (Since it's all MIPS IV , instruction set-wise; or is it too crude to put it like that?)

Not specific to yours, but someone should make a video of one of these, from the powering up to a bunch of demos, without music mixed over it.

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bplaa.yai wrote:
This is the kind of machines that is really more impressive/fun for real, but pretty boring in a video... ;)

A computer that is powered up with an ignition key and a gigantic graphics pipe? I tend to disagree! :D

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Thanks for the advice ppcaddon! I'll look into that.

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There would be a market for Photoshop on Linux , think of many of those post-production facilities who — after having used IRIX for so long — switched over to Linux , like ( Digital Domain ), Rhythm & Hues and ILM ( Industrial Light & Magic ), to name just a few. They all were early Linux users and I believe they still are. All since and right after IRIX (and to some extent, Solaris too) started to fade away... I know that the first two are big Linux -based Houdini users.

Say what you want about Linux , for all its quirks and faults, but it can be made to resemble IRIX more closely than anything else out there today. Especially with the help of the excellent XFS having been made open source, the excellent MaXX Desktop (for something quite visually reminiscent of the Indigo Magic 5Dwm ) and other additions.

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