The collected works of armanox - Page 2

Nuke wrote:

vishnu wrote:

foetz wrote:

vishnu wrote: One thing's for sure, the LibreSSL guys didn't think too highly of the state of the OpenSSL code when they forked it.

they should've kept the build system tho. libressl comes with a bunch of crap such as hardcoded, gcc specific cflags and such

Well that's retarded. But apparently not as retarded as the OpenSSL codebase:

http://www.openbsd.org/papers/bsdcan14-libressl/mgp00001.html

Even if only a tiny fraction of what he's saying is accurate, wow wwwww .. .

http://www.openbsd.org/papers/bsdcan14- ... 00011.html
http://www.openbsd.org/papers/bsdcan14- ... 00012.html
Well, I can understand not re-implementing libc?

The drop-in replacement part, though...not supporting everything the original supports, just "what people will probably use"? This sounds tolerable for me given I probably won't ever need any of the things they've removed but I still don't like the idea of intentionally not supporting things and then saying "drop-in replacement".

It is far from a drop in replacement when they only support a couple of platforms. I can build OpenSSL on many platforms that are still alive but not common, say OpenVMS, that I doubt libreSSL will ever support. And then you have things like IRIX and AIX that don't work because the OpenBSD team never implemented arc4random and such, instead saying complain to SGI and IBM that the OS doesn't do things the way the OpenBSD team feels they should be done.

pentium wrote: WOAHHHHHHHHHHHH.
I they completely stopped releasing updates years ago.

I thought the final was supposed to be Jan 2014 for patches based on stuff I had read. Color me impressed. Can we say IRIX 6.5 has been receiving updates longer then any other OS at this point?

Titox wrote:

SGI_Patches.jpg

Yeah...just noticed that too when I logged in to look. I wonder if someone with a valid support contract could see if there's been any updates lately...

ivelegacy wrote: yes, buy those applications are targeted for PC , while I wish i had these applications for Irix.

Dina is more productive than PSpice, and EagleCAD is more interesting than OrCad, especially for PCB 2 layers design, small projects (~ 160x110mm ), this because It costs the less, 300 euro for a decent license, and it does a great job! I had a macOSX basic license of EagleCAD on my laptop for hobby purposes.

The only open source CAD i know is KiCad, but i haven't tried to compile it for Irix, yet, and probably can't justify the use of Irix instead of linux on a common PC.

Well, IRIX doesn't have the wars like systemd vs init, Wayland vs Mir vs X11, bootloader wars, or any of that other nonsense for one. Sounds like justification to me.

Colour me jealous on that one. I'd love to have a 2x600MHz Octane, almost as much as I would love a Tezro.

vishnu wrote:

Krokodil wrote: I also just won an Octane off fleabay, in good cosmetic condition and reasonable specs.

Reasonable specs are a question of taste, some people consider a 195MHz Octane with 512 meg RAM to be reasonable, which I find to be in extremely poor taste...

Reasonable is also relative to your goals with it. Although since bumping mine from 384MB RAM to 1280, quite a few things work better. Now if I could only come into a dual 600MHz CPU, I'd be fantastic.

vishnu wrote:

Krokodil wrote:

armanox wrote: Reasonable is also relative to your goals with it. Although since bumping mine from 384MB RAM to 1280, quite a few things work better. Now if I could only come into a dual 600MHz CPU, I'd be fantastic.

I just bumped my Octane up to a dual 360MHZ. I think finding anything above 400MHZ, probably requires some kind of miracle.

600MHz Octane CPU modules do pop up on Sqee bay occasionally but almost never for a price that isn't outright laughable...

For the prices that the 600MHz (and 2x600) come up for, I'd lean towards just buying a Tezro instead. Except the Octane will always be special to me since it was the first real UNIX system I ever used (after that I got to learn Solaris on a Sunblade 150, and used SunOS a few times on a Sparc Classic, then got to play with some O2's. First one I had running at home was an O2, and it's been dead for a while. Second was a Sun Netra T1 that I still have) and earned IRIX a special place in my heart as the OS that works like I always wanted Linux to.

Mmmm...a bittorrent client. Now there is something I'd like to see (Haven't tried building/porting myself).

I may share some things that I've built with great success or with some edits in this thread as well. I'm going to be fairly tied up for most of the day, but when I get the chance I will take a look. My builds are first tried with MIPSPro (for C, all C++ is done with GCC from my end), and I've got a rather large collection built in /usr/local.

Last year I know I built with success:
httpd-2.4
php5

And I will check my ~/src folder when I get the chance.

Kumba wrote:

TeamBlackFox wrote: You're free to suggest programs, ...

systemd?

Banned

I would love to see clang/llvm personally, but don't know if the talent to pull that off has any interest in doing that one.

ivelegacy wrote: About Irix: i'd like to see " geany ", as I feel I miss an useful IDE. I am a bit busy with other things at the moment, to care about Irix, also my Octane is still dead, and my friend doesn't want to put his IP28 online for more than 2 days a week (yesterday it was Online, I was lucky)

Code: Select all

*  dev-util/geany
Homepage:      http://www.geany.org
Description:   GTK+ based fast and lightweight IDE
License:       GPL-2+ HPND


Geany is a powerful tool, unfortunately has to deal with GTK+, so … it may hurt hard. I am used to use it under linux just because I do not have to care about GTK+, ubuntu already has things configured and installed.

Hmm...I might take a look at that. Tied up trying to get some remote server deployments done this minute, but I might be able to check out the dependencies for it in the mean time and see where we would have to start.

TeamBlackFox wrote: I'll be going back to coding sometime next week, had some various things happen ( exams, car overheating, got a new one etc.)

Also, Armanox I found this: http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_ ... 0-Released

And to think that I don't get any credit for AIX support! I believe at one point I sent them some AIX patches, I would have to double check that. However...if they got AIX working, my roadblock there (initial one, second being I no longer have AIX access) was the same one that I had on IRIX, so I might be able to get IRIX working again. I will have to take a look.

TeamBlackFox wrote: Unfortunately I have no more time to work on stuff and my SGI collection is being liquidated. Sorry guys... I had some changes in my life happen, BIG changes, I'm moving cross-country soon.

I am terribly sorry to hear that.

I am terribly sorry to hear that. That's the kind of machine I would love to get my hands on, but alas I cannot currently make you an offer that I wouldn't find insulting for such a machine.

Paranoid much are we? Let's face reality for a second - Short of something like a Leemote you aren't going to find a fully open system. And are you really that paranoid about binary blobs? If you're that concerned with security...then act like it. Have a decent firewall, with IPS/IDS running (they can be separate machines from the firewall). Get yourself a copy of Nessus (disclaimer, I am a former employee of Tenable Network Security) and run regular scans on all of your hardware (including your network equipment) for vulnerabilities. Get a copy of PVS while you're at it, and examine your network traffic replays on a regular basis. Only allow internet traffic on a whitelist basis, etc.

uunix wrote: LDR?

Long Distance Relationship

vishnu wrote:

Trippynet wrote: You've beaten me. I'm currently driving a 2000 VW Bora with 138,000 miles on it. It's in surprisingly good nick actually. No rust, all passenger seats present, even the air-con still works.

My commute is 20 miles all freeway which, given the winters around here amounts to 40 miles a day through road-salt enfused mist, which no rust preventative can withstand.

Trippynet wrote: I think if I ditched the passenger seat though the wife would definitely make me replace it

A few years back my wife realized that divorce was a great career move with an excellent retirement plan. If she ever needs a ride anywhere she has to sit on the floor...

What I wouldn't give for a 20 mile commute....I drive 36 miles to work. Cars are a 99 Mustang with 250,000 miles on it, and an 88 Mustang with 260,000 miles on it....

Excited to see this project live again. I'll give it a test on my testing laptop (Latitude D610 w/ 1GB RAM, Fedora 22 installed). May need to give it a try building on Slackware or Solaris later if I'm happy with it.

...

Okay, I lied. Ran it on my main laptop (Dell Precision M4500, Fedora 21) with fairly good results:

Understood. I sorta forgot about that for a minute. However, it does make running Renote X programs look correctly on a Linux box. Too bad that Fedora broke XDMCP as of Fedora 21, hence why I hope to get it working in Slackware

Tested on CentOS 7 with triple monitors. Screen shot attached.

Side note, if SGI budges on the Linux on Intel a little, this would be pretty awesome on a Raspberry Pi....

Welcome (back) to the party!

toasty wrote: Sorry to bump an old thread, but I'm curious to find out more information related to ritchan's original question:

ritchan wrote: how fast of an UltraSPARC do I need to get average sized H.264 rips going?

I'm thinking about getting a Sun Blade 2500 to tinker with and get into the Sun/SPARC/Solaris world. I see some single 1.6 GHz US IIIi with XVR-600 + 4 GB RAM configs on ebay that are within my price range. I mainly edit photos, work with office documents, listen to music, and browse the web. All seem to be capable with Solaris so I'm thinking of using a SB 2500 as a daily driver.

But for some fun and diversion, I would also like to watch videos. How does the SPARC build of OpenCSW mplayer perform? Would the config I mentioned above be able to play 1280x720 HD? How about regular 640 or 720 width videos?

And how about web browsing? Are the latest SPARC builds of Firefox and flash player usable on the SB 2500?

I've been running Solaris 10 u8 in a VM on my Macbook to learn and get used to it. So far so good. But granted, I'm testing on a modern Intel Mac. Would appreciate hearing any real world "modern computing" experiences with an actual SPARC machine. Thanks!

So, as someone who really likes Sun boxes, let me help you the best I can.

The IIIi is probably comparable in preference to a Pentium IV, and is about as old. I have a SunBlade 1500 here (and Netra T1, and a SunFire V245 at work), with 2GB of RAM and a 1GHz proc.

Software - It looks like Firefox 31 (ESR, mind you) is the most recent build of FF and Thunderbird for SPARC. Which really isn't that old of a build anyway. Now Flash, I think Flash Player 10 was the last version for SPARC? But yes, they should all run on there (I'll boot my SunBlade for you).

Okay, so the "can it run?" See if the attached answers your question. Quick testing shows mine can play youtube at 360 and 480 (frames are dropping for me at 480p) using flash player, and HTML5 player seems to not work. The video power also reflects on the GPU, which mine's not designed for this kind of usage. I do not have any video players installed to test out local video formats for you.

If the license is good, why not call Adobe and see what happens? If nothing else it could give you a good story to share.

vishnu wrote: That won't work, I've tried it. They will just flip their response book to the unsupported version page and then lobby you buy the latest and greatest. Steve Jobs was right, Adobe sucks...

I would push the issue. I called them a couple years ago about an old copy of Macromedia Dreamweaver MX and they eventually were able to give me an activation number. Depending on your location and the license terms they may be legally required to let you activate it somehow.

Several people mentioned they would try it if they could run it in a Virtual Machine. If there is interest I can build a VM template (for Virtual Box or VMware) that can be downloaded for users to test with.

vishnu wrote: I ran 5Dwm as my main desktop for years on Slackware, but the releases after the project was rebranded to Maxx were problematic specific to Motif apps. This would have been with Slackware 13 through 13.37, I have not tried it with 14.0 or 14.1. As I recall the problem was that motif windows would come up black on black, which obviously made it a bit tough to get any serious work done...

Seems to work fine for me on Slackware 14.1 - even integrates in KDM. I'm running this on a lighter system - a Dell Latitude C400 (1.2GHz Pentium 3, 1GB RAM). I think I like it on this laptop!

maxxi.desktop wrote: Hey all,

Here's a first preview of MaXX Interactive Desktop DR3.5 (moving closer to DR4) running on Linux Mint 17.2 Cinnamon 64bit. It's a modest system as per the hinv output below. But with 5Dwm and XcompMaXX running it's fast, smooth and quite snappy

More to come and help needed too

# hinv
4 2808 MHz GenuineIntel Processors PF 6
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6700 @ 2.66GHz Processor Chip Model 15 Stepping 11
FPU: yes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 4.0 MBytes
Main memory size: 3952 Mbytes
Audio Processor: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
Graphics board: NVIDIA Corporation G92 [GeForce 9800 GTX / 9800 GTX+]
Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
19 additional PCI devices
12 USB devices

Not bad at all! What sort of things do you need help with?

If they release it with a 3:2, 4:3 (preferred), or 5:4 screen resolution I'd probably buy one.

Trippynet wrote: Also worth noting is that the move to 16:9 has generally arrived with a reduction in screen resolution. When laptops went from 4:3 to 16:10, a 1600x1200 screen became 1920x1200 (same vertical resolution, and extra space at the sides). However, over the last few years this has then been cut to 1920x1080. And it's crazy! At work, we're refreshing old Dell workstations with 1920x1200 screens with new ones that have a lower screen resolution, a fatter bezel, and less screen area than the old ones. And all because it's cheaper for Dell. I wouldn't mind on a budget laptop, but these are £2,000 professional mobile workstations. And it annoys me intensely seeing Dell sticking a deliberately worse screen onto a two grand laptop, just to save a few quid in construction costs.

Personally, I despise 16:9. It's a nasty and unpleasant aspect ratio designed for watching TV on, not for doing proper work. If Lenovo finally decide to buck the current trend and design a new laptop for proper work, rather than just watching Netflix on then I think that would be fantastic. Currently, if you want a new laptop with a screen designed for proper work, the only company making them still is Apple (the Macbook Pro is 16:10, as is the new Macbook).

If it makes you feel any better you can buy Dell Precisions with 4K displays on them. Added bonus the M4800 does *NOT* use a chicklet keyboard.

guardian452 wrote:

Personally, I despise 16:9. It's a nasty and unpleasant aspect ratio designed for watching TV on, not for doing proper work. If Lenovo finally decide to buck the current trend and design a new laptop for proper work, rather than just watching Netflix on then I think that would be fantastic. Currently, if you want a new laptop with a screen designed for proper work, the only company making them still is Apple (the Macbook Pro is 16:10, as is the new Macbook).

Right, but we are talking thinkpad here, which means windows, which means games (at least to me). Most games are made for 16x9. I love the streaming feature in the new xbox app and that alone makes up for all of the thinkpad's other shortcomings.

People generally don't buy Thinkpads for games. Thinkpads have a long history of a lot of OS choices - Windows, Linux, AIX, DOS, and OS/2. I don't equate the Thinkpad line nor the Dell Precision line to gaming, especially if you buy a Thinkpad W series.

Final note - who in their right mind streams from an XBox to a PC? ( See also: why would someone want an XBox?)

commodorejohn wrote: Yeah, and throwing the entire screen off-balance because (AFAIK) neither Windows nor OSX allow you to have a corresponding bar on the other side of the screen to make the space symmetrical?

Oddly enough this used to be doable (I had it in Windows 98), but by Windows 7 the way I used to do it seems to no longer work.

uunix wrote: Windows 8.1 (&8) will mirror (one is primary containing clock etc) the task bar across both screens if that's what we are talking about here?

I'm referring to multiple system panels (since not all contain a task bar) on the same screen.

Apparently the functionality was still in XP - this is what I'm referring to

Trippynet wrote: They're disposable in the manner of if you want more RAM (even in the more professional Macbook Pro), you have to bin it and buy a new one. If the battery dies (which they do), you have to bin it and buy a new one. If you damage the screen, you have to bin it and buy a new one. If the headphone jack becomes loose, you have to bin it and buy a new one (used to be on a separate daughter board, now soldered direct to the motherboard). Essentially, they aren't upgradable and are very, very difficult and expensive to repair.

Of course, this is deliberate from Apple. After your MBP is 3-4 years old and has a stuffed battery, only 4GB of RAM and a flaky headphone jack, they want you to throw it in the bin and buy a new one, not replace the battery and upgrade/fix it. They're doing it to other devices too. The new Mac Mini comes in *exactly* the same chassis as the old one, but in the old one you could pop the bottom off and upgrade the RAM, but in the new one it's soldered down.

Making devices so they can't be repaired or upgraded is essentially making them disposable - especially when parts such as batteries have a very real and limited shelf life.

And this is why I've been advocating Thinkpad W series and Dell Precisions M series since the rMBP came out - one screw and I can replace anything in my M4500 (and the M4700 I had at my last job was the same way).

ClassicHasClass wrote: Current lifespan of iBook G4: 10 years. Battery replaced a couple times, RAM maxed out.

I always wanted a G4 Powerbook (I've got a G3 clamshell here in Lime that still works too, but I can't do much with it. And a PowerBook 504c....)

I've got a MacBook Pro 1,1 (Feb 2006) with max (2GB) RAM that I've replaced the battery in as well that's still running (though one of the fans is going to need replacing soon). When I worked as a traveling computer tech in 2009 I carried it with me everywhere, and used it as my main work computer from 2009-2012 (and then as just my personal laptop until 2014) with a couple of virtual servers hosting everything else I needed. I could still make a lot of use of that MacBook if:
A - everything wasn't so GPU intensive these days, flash and youtube kill the poor machine
B - Apple didn't drop support for that model (still running OS X 10.6, which is a blessing in some ways for that machine, since the releases have been on a downhill slope for performance and graphical attractiveness) so I have to manually compile all security patches and install them that way,
C - software supported it still - a lot of software is distributed through the App Store and no longer installs/has updates for 10.6. Also Google Chrome is about to drop support for IA-32 processors under OS X, and Firefox currently eats up way too much CPU time.
D - more RAM - I like having a Windows VM availible when I'm running a non-Windows system (such as my Precision laptop that replaced it that normally runs Linux), and 2GB of RAM does not leave me much space for even my Win2K VM to run nicely, plus common applications on the physical machine (read Web Browsers...)

Apple just doesn't make stuff any where near as good as they used to.

ClassicHasClass wrote: Firefox is going to drop i386 pretty soon also.

Fortunately, I maintain my own web browser. PowerPC forever.

I don't think I'll get ten years (and counting) out of my i7 MBA. I'm expecting five, tops.

I love PPC, don't get me wrong. Actually, I'm a fan of any sort of unusual setup I can put together, which is why I loved my last job (I was in charge of the R&D lab for a Network Security company, and we tried to have everything - and I mean everything, to test different OS/Versions of the same OS (I had AIX 5-7 running, Solaris 8 - 11 (SPARC and Intel), HP-UX 11 - 11iv3 (PA-RISC and Itanium), etc, plus all kinds of networking appliances, oh it was like a playground). It's just when the G4 was still decent (I've had a G4 Quicksilver since 2006, and I've got a quad G5 here) I couldn't afford to buy an iBook/Powerbook. I bought the MBP at a ham radio festival in 2008 for $200, so I couldn't pass that up.

uunix wrote: I have 2 but no apple made up specific power leaded.

My quad G5 doesn't seem to use a made up connection - it's a standard C19 connector (okay, that's not common in home computers, but they did it to keep people from using super cheap power cords with that monster of a power hog).

ClassicHasClass wrote: Bah. Try a Quad G5.

Why not both? Come winter I'll have my Octane running again, my Sunblade running again, my BOINC cluster running again.....

Actually, the LCS for CPU one in my Quad G5 has failed, so it won't be running this winter (this makes me sad. If you know some easy way ot get this working again, PM me. I think fluid is...not so fluid any longer).

Dennis Nedry wrote: Yup.

I've filed so many bug reports on this issue alone it's ridiculous. The few responses I got back from Apple Engineering were all along the line of "we're doing things the way we think they should be done and you're clearly wrong".

OS X won't enable a GPU unless it has a monitor plugged into it. There is no way around this, short of hex editing the kernel extensions, but even then I never got anywhere with that. If the local GPU is disabled, then OS X will default to a software rendering system which is capped to 1280x1024 due to severe performance issues (as you've already found out). Those issues are so bad under 10.9 and 10.10 that VNC is virtually unusable without a GPU installed and active in the system.

You think that's bad, you should see how Windows handles GPUs. The GPU might be active without a display attached (on my desktop, if I want to be able to run OpenCL on the HD3000 embedded on my CPU (with everything else using a real GPU) I have to plug a monitor in. If I RDP into my desktop, or use VNC, I lose the ability to use the GPU regardless of if it is plugged in to something.

ClassicHasClass wrote:

armanox wrote:

ClassicHasClass wrote: Bah. Try a Quad G5.

Why not both? Come winter I'll have my Octane running again, my Sunblade running again, my BOINC cluster running again.....

Actually, the LCS for CPU one in my Quad G5 has failed, so it won't be running this winter (this makes me sad. If you know some easy way ot get this working again, PM me. I think fluid is...not so fluid any longer).

What type, the Cooligy v2 or the Delphi v1? Although Delphi systems were the sucky ones in earlier LCSes, in the Quad the Delphi is the preferred assembly.

I have some notes on dealing with the LCS here . You can either find an entire assembly and redo it (as I do), or there is a way to refurbish the coolant; I have it linked.

That looks like it says Delphi to me (see https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9x6271zC4EYWv2IHLEfBpj1fN3bz5ocbPDHN-8qQdwA=w1306-h979-no )