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edefault wrote: afaik there once came a screen saver with IRIX (named "CPU eater") which was quite similar.


Anyone any idea where to this one vanished?
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regarding IRIX 6.5.22 on my ancient Indigo2 R10k you´re rigtht,
but no luck on IRIX 6.5.28 on my Fuel - there´s no CPU eater,
and the backround stays light blue regardless of what I choose.
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stuart wrote: I have a 300MHz R5200, but I've no idea whether there's a blue wire or not... is this a deal-breaker?


Have a look at it: the voltage regulator is housed in a TO-220 package (See below).

Maybe it works with other PCB versions, but two modules without the blue patch wire I had reworked years ago showed up not to boot into IRIX afterwards though all tests from the PROM monitor ran through error-free. I guess it might have been mere coincidence, but I don´t want to find out that it is the other way and mess up another rare CPU module.

Please look here: http://www.in4tec-mbh.com/O2@600/gallery.html

To anyone with real deep (SGI) hardware knowledge and adjacent test equipment:
I´ll gladly send you one of these modules for free to find out what´s the matter :-)

About the time frame: three modules get reworked next week, one of which is sold already, another one i wanted to keep myself.
But I´m as well willing to ship it - on the condition that I get the trade-in RM5271 module later (otherwise the chain gets broken).

Ah, now for the vermouth drop (does one use that phrase in english at all?): Material, Soldering, X-Ray and Shipment still totals to 250 Euro.
It is unlikely that this will change because tere are no hordes of O2-owners who trade in their modules by the dozen.
If still interested please pm me and I´ll gladly tell you my PayPal accredited email address.

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did a little googlin´ ... CPU eater is a wallpaper and once came with demos.sw, dunno in which IRIX version.
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Hi there,

two more 600MHz CPU modules run 24/7 without heat sink below 37°C here...
... impatiently waiting for O2 owners willing to swap a RM5271 CPU module.

PM me if interested - there are 15 bare CPUs / SPROMs on stock again ;-)

Cheers

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Where is this PROM located physically?
Any chance to reverse-engineer it?

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I guess things would be much easier if there only were a socket for BGA305 CPU available,
which would allow to swap the processor without the heavy soldering ... is there eventually?

I´ll gladly donate some CPU modules that didn´t make it after soldering on a RM7000@600.

Walther

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theodric wrote:
Have received my 600MHz module and it's happily running with a fresh install of 6.5.30! Fantastic :D It booted once or twice on the 6.5.29 install I was running with my 180MHz R5k, but otherwise would fairly consistently hang during boot with the 600MHz module, and very consistently would boot with the 180MHz one. I mention this in case anyone else has a similar issue-- luckily as I have piles of SCA80 drives sitting around, reinstalling was pretty painless.


Ha ... congrats! Btw., I tested the modules with a 6.5.28 IRIX Installation running MySQL5, Apache2, Joomla!, OpenOffice, Blender ...
Since I had 3 modules out of 12 from the last batch that din´t boot properly into IRIX I´m curious if these would run with a fresh install.
Unfortunately, I don´t have a couple of system disks at hand - I use my intranet server as guinea pig for newly converted 600MHz modules.

Some recipients of converted modules reported difficulties I hadn´t that vanished after exchanging RAM modules in the past.
Always a good idea to check for RAM that´s fast enough.

Cheers

Walther

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...any screen shots of it? A GUI/WM in existence eventually? Which one?
And if so, what are the advantages over IRIX/4dwm then?

Cheers

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Hello,

is anyone about to provide a binary of seamonkey_1.1.18?
With 1.1.17, ssh can eventually becom compromised:
http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2009/mfsa2009-42.html
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when the year of the cat is finally over (dunno) we might switch to other animals
... now what about cows? They are much more beneficial compared to cats or dogs.
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nekonoko wrote:
neko chan, not ushichan, usagichan, etc.


Ah-ha, now I see. I don´t insist.

But didn´t the catwomen´s ears transform already into a more bunny-like shape lately ... have female hares taken over eventually?
There has also been a total loss of fur and a highly visible dominance of some, err, pretty outstanding features besides bunny ears.

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edefault wrote:
PM me if interested - there are 15 bare CPUs[...]


Addendum: all SOLD OUT. No upgrades until someone points me to another batch of RM7000-600T CPUs.
Btw., I´m not going to buy a batch of 665 pcs. from China unless these are far less than a buck per piece :) .

Sorry.

Edit: No use to suggest 7035 and 7065 CPUs - these are not pin (ball :) ) compatible with the RM5271.

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It seems I was again too fast on the trigger ...
about half a dozen of O2 CPU modules which proved dysfunctional in the past will eventually take part in another attempt to be upgraded to 600MHz.
I´ll possibly get me some more bare CPUs from China or elsewhere where they are available by the hundreds.
For a small quantity of 10 prices vary between 15 and 35 bucks.

The staff at the repair shop told me that if BGA CPUs grow old unsoldered due to oxidation of contacts the soldering process becomes more difficult.
Anyway, it is controlled optically afterwards using x-ray; but one can´t use a bare CPU twice if there were short-cuts detected since reballing is much too expensive.

TBC

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Yep, someone to reverse-engineer an O2 module would eventually want to use a more powerful CPU from the PMC MIPS series..
IMO not going to happen, though: there are not enough O2 owners out there willing to buy, say, a decent 1GHz CPU module.
Or are there? I´d gladly donate a module :-)
Another issue: now IRIX is discontinued, with no source code available ... would it be possible to get it running on non-SGI hardware?

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Anyway, there are plenty of RM7000C-600T bare CPUs available in china :)
I managed to get me a tray of these (27) and can offer more 600MHz rework.

For all who don´t know: *only* R5271 O2 CPU modules are suited for this.
No, I do *not* have complete modules for sale - these babies are rare :(

But I do have some O2 600MHz modules which behave quite strange!
E. g. one does pass all IDE tests (invoked from PROM monitor, lengthy!)
without a single error message, but IRIX boots directly into shutdown:
from "stop for maintenance" into "ok to power down", nothing in between.

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Oskar45 wrote: Anyway, for fun I did a <time ./testrun.sh> [with the default sizes/iterations] and get on my Fuel 700Mhz:

Code: Select all

real    0m58.05s
user    0m46.82s
sys     0m0.19s


quite fast, compared to my 600MHz R14000 IP35 Fuel

Code: Select all

real    2m11.07s
user    1m45.13s
sys     0m0.57s


or have I missed something here eventually?
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Dubhthach wrote:
I see Dillo 2.0 has been released, they've fully ported it to FTLK from GTK+1, supposdly uses "half the memory" of previous version:
http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS3205239546.html

Be nice if the nekoware gods could provide a port for us mere mortals.


I second that! neko_dillo is stuck at 0.8.6 while dillo.org reports 2.1.1.
My Belco Alpha400 runs dillo2 - under 3MXrc4 on a MIPS CPU :) .
Compared to FireFox, err, IceWeasel it is incredibly fast, even shows JPEG
and other images - which neko_dillo unfortunately doesn´t at all.

Or is it meant to do and I again missed something eventually?

P.S.: Yes, I´d love to learn how to port to IRIX myself ... but do I have a chance?
How about some Wiki that explains it in detail? (So much for my wish list).

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Ryan Fox wrote:
Actually I've got a utility that can mount XFS on OSX.


yep, please go ahead. Especially if it were able to mount IRIX drives r/w automatically at MacOSX system start :-)

I have been looking for a method to connect MacOSX clients to an existing IRIX server for a long time,
yet no real success. Still FTP'ing forth and back. For read only mounts there seem to be a couple of methods...
E. g. a free little MacOSX program called AutomountMaker (go google) does the trick.

A full NFS read/write mount would enable users to work on their data from both IRIX and MacOSX boxes :-)
Another thing on the wishlist (listen, Santa!): MacOSX displaying X11 Windows of remote IRIX machines :)

Cheers

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SAQ wrote:
Wasn't there a freeware program called IRIXconnect (ran on Macintosh) that mounted NFS drives by GUI?


Thanks for the hint ... IRIXconnect does the trick easier and faster than AutomountMaker!
It seems that somehow MacOSX does not allow remote shares to show up under a symbolic name:
as with AutomountMaker, the shares only appear with the name they have on the server.

[ edit ]another (not free, though) utility, "NFS Manager" looks promising,
though in a few minutes I didn´t find out how to mount an IRIX servers' share under a named mount point.
The window which lists directory nodes (?) mentiones this, so I guess it is possible.[/edit]

IRIXconnect does not automatically mount after boot/login, though it remembers what was mounted last.
And I guess if user name and ID matched on IRIX and MacOSX box it were possible to get write access.
Unfortunately I have no idea how to set up the user ID on a Mac manually. Got to find out.

About my wish for Santa:
In theory, there is X11 on both systems which is famed for a complete separation of a program and its GUI;
practically I never saw any application from a Mac show up on my IRIX desktop nor vice versa.
Since I have apps here that are stuck to IRIX I´d very much like them to show up on the Mac's desktop.
Did I miss something here eventually?

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SAQ wrote:
On 10.4 and earlier go to the NetInfo Manager (in Utilities).

Yep, tried me that one once ... until it got me totally confused, but I guess I´ll give it another try 8-)
I´m not going to MacOSX versions higher than 10.4 yet since I´m on G3 and G4 PPC iMacs here.

Quote:
I'll second that there's something rotten in the state of Denmark WRT newer releases of X11 and IRIX X clients.

What about the other way round?
Some IRIX machines in the server vault and a decent iMac on the desktop showing IRIX' apps in XWindows ... you got me, Santa?
Not that I want you to bring me a decent 27" iMac (but if you plan to, why not) ... but some knowledge about how to do this.

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In the mean time, I managed to mount XFS drives (ro) from my SGI server on the iMac using NFSManager,
in a way that these show up automatically *and* under a symbolic name (mount point) after boot. Great!
NFSManager is not freeware, though, but costs next to nothing.

All I need now is to have the user IDs on the Mac adapted to those in IRIX, I guess.

About the cross-platform X11 window display: there´s another thread around here.

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foetz wrote:
just to be clear, the xfs disk was still in the sgi but you mounted it via nfs?


Yep.
Actually, it is a lxvm disk array of concatenated and mirrored xfs volumes attached to an Origin server.

I´m hoping to make it writeable through identical user IDs, so there will be an IRIX file server for both .

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There´s LyX is on sgi.freeware.com, but pretty much outdated... no neko_lyx somehow :-(

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dexter1 wrote: Rich and i are still busy with Seamonkey 2.0 / Firefox 3.5 port. Hopefully i can get it done soon


any progress?
Every now and then FF/SM alert about available updates ... while we IRIXers are still stuck with FF2.0/SM1.1.
I wish you´d succeed in doing your port before the "amigafication" process of IRIX progresses too far 8-(
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A FastMac G4@550 Upgrade does a good job in one of my Apple iMac DV G3/400s with Tiger 10.4.
Feels faster than a 600MHz Fuel ... and, back to topic, is capable of running decent browser versions.

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emgaron wrote:
... But the price... :shock: For that amount of money I could get a complete G4 iMac around here these days...


Yes, agreed: the G4 upgrade costs as much as 2-3 DV400 iMacs. I also put 1GB RAM and a 500GB hard disk in it ...
From a computer-performance-per-buck point of view, this is total nonsense. But I´m a collector of vintage machinery (sgi addict :) .

I´d always prefer a vintage Mercedes (especially a powerful one) over a decent Volkswagen, Audi, Toyota or whatever.

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cicero wrote:
VenomousPinecone wrote:
Nedit and Cosmo on the Octane, Metapad and Dreamweaver on the peecee...

Quote:
The last web sites I worked on used PHP (oscommerce or typo3). Opinions about Typo3? There are loads of other content managent systems.


just to pull this thread from oblivion ... Joomla! 1.5 worked fine for me on a IRIX 6.5.22 O2 box,
after I managed to get all the prerequisites (all nekoware, of course) in the right place.
neko_apache2, neko_mysql5, neko_php5...

...not that I had any in-depth knowledge of those. I just wanted to comfortably manage content :-)
and got pretty bored with hacking HTML all by myself.
Too bad that machine went dysfunctional recently. I'm trying to revive it but lack spare parts.

Now I wonder if I could put Typo3 on some IRIX box as well. Has anyone done so? Just curious.

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Nice situation ... I've been there at least three times: LED red means the system is not running at all.

Most likely, the main board is toasted - it is quite fragile, pulling it with power cord plugged kills it for sure,
even when the power is off. Just recently I had to find out that a somehow dead CPU module can also kill it.

There' s a small chance to revive it through the "jumper" trick ... never did it for me, though.
Go search for a thread about it anywhere around here.

If you want a spare contact Ian Mapleson - maybe he's got some left he's willing to sell.
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ajerimez wrote: When seating the CPU, you really need to squeeze it against the motherboard to ensure that it firmly grabs the signal risers.


Same for the main board: just pushing the plastic lever may not be enough.
Press firmly against both main board and front of O2 housing (give it a hug).
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a little late, now, but ... just for the records:

it is possible to make a VGA monitor work with the Indigo 2 machine,
even if that monitor is _not_ capable to handle SOG.

One has to carefully read through the tech specs to find out that HSync/VSync
are already put out to some pins on the SGI's 13W3 monitor jack on the indigo2.
Then figure out how to connect these to a standard HDSUB15 - et voila.
Soldering expertise required, though.

I did let go all of my Indigo 2 beauties (had a dozen or so) on eBay long ago,
but still own the two adaptor cables I once built.

It is also possible to implement a hardware hack that makes a SGI GDM20D11
accept standard VGA signals - the input stage hardware can process H/Vsync,
one only has to connect the adjacent pins and add one R and C component.

For some reason unknown, SGI preferred the SOG over HSync/VSync so much,
they simply did not connect the latter sometimes even if were available.
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Those eBay SUN/SGI adapters are SUN adapters. They will only work with SOG monitors on SGI as I described above . If you wish to confirm, use a multimeter and compare the pinout to those for your workstation in the owner's manual on techpubs.sgi.com. Pay particular attention to pins 3, 4, 5 if IIRC on the 13W3. You will find they don't line up with the pinout of a standard VGA 15 pin connector.


As mentioned above, this is true in general, but: SGI Indigo2 machines *do* put out Hsync/Vsync as well as RGB/SOG,
so it is possible to connect them to non-SOG monitors without any additional hardware, solely by correct wiring.
I don't know if there were variants in the Indigo2 family, mine all were of the R10k Impact type.
These worked fine on Eizo FlexScan L985EX monitors, which are - AFAIK - not capable to synchronize on green.

I got two working 13W3-to-HDSUB25 cables here and am willing to let go for shipment costs if someone wants one.
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[...] it doesn't don't do the SGI/IRIX user community any favors in the long run.


yep, agreed.

Best practice for Indigo2 owners:
First read tech specs, esp. pinouts, then practice some soldering.
That makes buying adaptors, regardless of what flavor, obsolete.

Both Indigo2 machines and GDM20D11 monitors have dormant options
already built in which allow for interfacing w/o need for sync-on-green.
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After leaving these dormant for years, I'm planning to revive a couple of SCSI disks from an XVM array that was originally attached to my Origin file server long ago ... I vaguely remember all the fun I had back then with the logical volume manager GUI, obviously programmed in java 8-) , esp. there was a "steal foreign disk" function that would come in handy now.

However, I can't find the lvmgr on the Fuel I now plugged the external disks to.
It once was invoked from somewhere in the toolchest ... yes, I love GUIs - at least, this is silly cone gfx :-)

A "hinv" shows the external disks as "XVM Foreign Disk". Hardware ok, then. About the related system software:
eoe.sw.xlv, eoe.sw.xlvplex and eoe.sw.xvm are installed, as "inst eoe.sw." clearly shows.

The command "xvmgr", however, is "not found", nor is "/usr/bin/xvmgr" ... and I don't remember where else it could be.

What am I missing here eventually?
TIA
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installed are *both* eoe.sw.xlv and eoe.sw.xvm ... but where is the starter button?
Or should I reinstall eoe.sw.xvm on spec eventually? Which of the CDs does it come from?
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thanks a lot ...
sysadm_xvm is already installed as well, still, I have no clue how to invoke the GUI.

Anyway, I got my task done through the xvm CLI. JFTR (and in case I later need this again):
from the "hinv" output I knew that there were disk 4 and 8 on controller 2.
xvm started from a shell, I issued

xvm:local> show -v dks2d4

that gave me a hint what the former machine name was ("RUTH", here)

xvm:local> steal RUTH dks2d4
phys/dks1d4

whatever that means ... same thing with dks2d8.
then I had to forcefully remove the xvm label through

xvm:local> unlabel -force dks2d4

and voila! The two raw disk devices appeared in Disk Manager.
Now I can make use of it again

Case solved! Though not through the java GUI :-(
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