Nekonomicon - New flower stand! RS/6000-C10 (7009-C10)

ItsMeOnly
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Wrote the following at April 19, 2010, 3:53 a.m...

It turns out that just next floor there was a nice PowerPC server (and InfoWindow term) that belonged to our department (but it was long forgotten).
I got it, trying to take ownership on it, and have some questions:

How do you open it?
What graphics can it take, it apparently has a graphic card, but will not boot when it's inserted
What was the last AIX that supported it?
Bear in mind, that I'm actually a newbie to AIX/PPC/MCA

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zuluchas
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Wrote the following at April 19, 2010, 4:03 a.m...

I believe you need the key to open a C10 case.

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porter
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Wrote the following at April 19, 2010, 4:24 a.m...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS/6000#Type_7009

AIX 3.2.5 - 5.1

AIX 5.1 was the last to support MCA.

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Wrote the following at April 19, 2010, 2:56 p.m...

Do yourself a favor and run 4.3.3. AIX v5.1 is very slow on the older, lower memory hardware. AIX v3 is very odd. Throughout the v4 series IBM made is much more friendly, though 4.3.3 is the easiest to find software for and the most friendly.

Don't mess with the Java admin tools, either. Go SMIT all the way (until you learn enough about AIX to do it on your own, though even IBM doesn't recommend that).

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PymbleSoftware
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Wrote the following at April 19, 2010, 4:39 p.m...

I might have some RS/6000 parts for MCA era machines.
$5 plus shipping.

Regan

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ItsMeOnly
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Wrote the following at April 20, 2010, 4:11 a.m...

OK, opened it, pulled the graphics out of it, will see if it finishes booting, for now no serial console and stops at 517

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PymbleSoftware
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Wrote the following at April 20, 2010, 4:23 a.m...

ItsMeOnly wrote:

OK, opened it, pulled the graphics out of it, will see if it finishes booking, for now no serial console and stops at 517

How long did you wait...? I've had RS/6000 stop at the same check code for what seemed like for ever but it was "normal" for that particular machine... I was doing device driver work on one RS/6000 and it had a 12 minute boot cycle. Even more modern machines stop in the same check code for several minutes..

....debugging by moving the panic() and reading the dump was tedious...

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ItsMeOnly
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Wrote the following at April 20, 2010, 4:29 a.m...

for now, just doing reboot cycles, but will wait - there's an update however: it nicely spit "PROBLEM DETECTED" with BNC connection

Update 2:OK. I suspect now it had some NFS shares that it's unable to mount now, unfortunately I can't get a proper serial console (help appreciated), and the graphics it has installed doesn't show anything (looks like it does at least start booting, because there's a serious disk activity after SCSI being checked).

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porter
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Wrote the following at April 20, 2010, 9:48 a.m...

The term you want is "AIX IPL progress codes"

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/powersys/v3r1m5/index.jsp?topic=/ipha6_p5/diag1.htm

Code:

517 Mounting client remote file system during network IPL.

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ItsMeOnly
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Wrote the following at April 20, 2010, 12:41 p.m...

porter wrote:

The term you want is "AIX IPL progress codes"

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/powersys/v3r1m5/index.jsp?topic=/ipha6_p5/diag1.htm

Code:

517 Mounting client remote file system during network IPL.

Yes, that's the first thing I got. The trouble is, without any interaction with AIX there's no telling why does it stop there.

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Wrote the following at April 20, 2010, 1:03 p.m...

You need to boot into single-user mode and hack the /etc/vfs or equivalent. So it's serial console time, you may need to boot from CD.

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Wrote the following at April 21, 2010, 4:43 a.m...

RS/6000 and pSeries (or “System p,” as they seem to be called nowadays) systems, even the more recent POWER4, POWER5 and above systems, tend to take forever to boot up (with all the diagnostics and so on), but once they're booted they're all good and well and hopefully don't require being rebooted.

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ItsMeOnly
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Wrote the following at April 24, 2010, 2:19 p.m...

ItsMeOnly wrote:

I can't get a proper serial console (help appreciated)

porter wrote:

You need to boot into single-user mode and hack the /etc/vfs or equivalent. So it's serial console time, you may need to boot from CD.

Shall I write that again or you'll notice? ;-)

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porter
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Wrote the following at April 24, 2010, 5:06 p.m...

What does a "non proper serial console look like"? Anything from any serial port? You may have to press "1" or "2" at the serial console keyboard during critical times in the boot for it to switch to it.

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kjaer
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Wrote the following at April 24, 2010, 8:25 p.m...

porter wrote:

What does a "non proper serial console look like"? Anything from any serial port? You may have to press "1" or "2" at the serial console keyboard during critical times in the boot for it to switch to it.

IME only booting the installation media allows you to select a console at boot time, in that way. If you want to change it on a running system, you have to log in as root and run 'chcons'.

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porter
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Wrote the following at April 25, 2010, 12:53 a.m...

Sounds like time for the manual.

If it's getting to 517 I think it must have selected something as a console.

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ItsMeOnly
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Wrote the following at May 2, 2010, 2:03 p.m...

porter wrote:

What does a "non proper serial console look like"? Anything from any serial port?

As others suspected, the machine doesn't let me log in from console, only hardware warnings are displayed (BNC token ring not connected), otherwise the machine boots, but is inaccessible and just halts with 517. Looks like I'll need to consult higher power (it has support contract)

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porter
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Wrote the following at May 2, 2010, 3:51 p.m...

ItsMeOnly wrote:

BNC token ring not connected

I've never seen token ring on BNC.

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ItsMeOnly
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Wrote the following at May 16, 2010, 12:27 p.m...

porter wrote:

ItsMeOnly wrote:

BNC token ring not connected

I've never seen token ring on BNC.

Beats me, that what it says.

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kev009
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Wrote the following at May 23, 2010, 6:39 a.m...

If you only see boot messages but no login on serial, it means either the machine isn't running getty on that serial line or it doesn't like your console cable. You need a fully wired laplink cable for it to be happy.

A workaround is to put the box into service mode, boot from an AIX CD, and go through the menus to get a maintenance shell on the box. Launch 'smit', configure the network adapter, set it for 'now and reboot', and reboot. Now, you should be able to telnet/rlogin in and continue on with setup.

Edit:
Added to my pages here for future reference: http://ps-2.kev009.com:8081/rs6000/serialconsole.html

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