Nekonomicon - beta test: firefox3.0.19

diegel
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Wrote the following at Jan. 29, 2013, 1:54 a.m...

hamei wrote: diegel : is there a major change between 3.0 and 3.5 ? I know there was a big different at 3.6 but is it possible that 3.5 would solve a few more problems ?

Yes, there are major differences. The javascript engine is new designed and contains a lot of C++ code, in 3.0 javascript is C only. Additionally a lot of media tools for sound and video are added in 3.5, but you can disable this of course. I tried to compile 3.5 and came to the same point dexter had reached. I decided to debug 3.0 first, because I was sure to run into this bus error problem again in 3.5. Probably my fixes in 3.0 will fix firefox 3.5 as well, but at this point we are debugging firefox 3.0.

jirka
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Wrote the following at Jan. 29, 2013, 2:11 a.m...

diegel wrote: I decided to debug 3.0 first, ...

Thank you very much once more! I finally updated my O2 (R10k/250, IRIX 6.5.27) so I was able to install your Firefox 3... and it works very well!

canavan
Who joined July 21, 2003, 6:19 a.m.

Wrote the following at Jan. 29, 2013, 2:31 a.m...

diegel wrote: Thanks for testing so far. I will upload a new package including the missing files and dependencies on Friday.

@canavan: I don't see the crash you reported. Can you give some Information about your system and your Irix version?

Both systems run IRIX 6.5.30, have >=2 CPUs and V12 graphics. I would not be surprised if both are not completely up-to-date wrt nekoware dependencies. Could you please build one tardist with -nostrip for the next beta, so that more meaningful backtraces can be made?

hamei wrote: Also, do you two sometimes have problems with re-drawing the screen ?

I haven't seen any glitches.

hamei
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Wrote the following at Jan. 29, 2013, 6:14 p.m...

canavan wrote: I haven't seen any glitches.

Could be my 2@ graphics situation ...

Ran 'er hard for a few days and put 'er away wet, here's what it looks like to me :

Removed Firefox 2 this morning as having two versions of Firefox installed makes nothing but trouble. Yes, it's possible, but it doesn't work well.

FF3 functions better as a browser but it is a little less stable. With what I've been doing it crashes more frequently but at least the crashes are more predictable, and the chances of getting the problem fixed are higher.

If you run it on sites like Nekochan, which are mostly text and a few photos and standard html, it's great.

If you find yourself on more commercial sites with a lot of javascript, spyware, horseshit advertising gimmicks and track-you scripts, it will go down if you have very many tabs open. Four open tabs seems to be okay, except on really crappy sites.

I seem to get two kinds of crashes - the good ol' unexplained

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   moz_run_program[36]: 1868 Memory fault

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   terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'
   

   what():  std::bad_alloc

It seems like about 50-50. At least the 'std::bad_alloc' gives a clue to what it is. If this cause goes away in the future we should cut our crashes in half. Yea !

At hi-res, it's waaaay better. At lower res on older, slower hardware Flop2 might be a better choice. I'm not sure how well this would run on an Indigo2 or an O2. If you have the faster hardware, it's worth upgrading.

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ClassicHasClass
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Wrote the following at Jan. 30, 2013, 6:29 a.m...

Are you running out of memory, perchance?

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hamei
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Wrote the following at Jan. 30, 2013, 6:34 a.m...

ClassicHasClass wrote: Are you running out of memory, perchance?

May be ... only got 4 gigs in this box :cry:

canavan
Who joined July 21, 2003, 6:19 a.m.

Wrote the following at Jan. 30, 2013, 12:25 p.m...

hamei wrote: I seem to get two kinds of crashes - the good ol' unexplained

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moz_run_program[36]: 1868 Memory fault

and

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terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc' what(): std::bad_alloc

It seems like about 50-50. At least the 'std::bad_alloc' gives a clue to what it is. If this cause goes away in the future we should cut our crashes in half. Yea !

You may get some helpful information by running firefox via

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   MOZ_DIST_BIN=/usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19
   

   MOZ_DEFAULT_NAME=./run-mozilla.sh-bin
   

   MOZ_APPRUNNER_NAME=./mozilla-bin
   

   MOZ_VIEWER_NAME=./viewer
   

   MOZ_PROGRAM=/usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/firefox-bin
   

   MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19
   

   MRE_HOME=/usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19
   

   SHLIB_PATH=/usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19:/usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19
   

   LIBPATH=/usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19:/usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19 3642  DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19:/usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19
   

   LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19:/usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/components:/usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19
   

   ADDON_PATH=/usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19
   

   export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME LD_LIBRARY_PATH
   

   export SHLIB_PATH LIBPATH LIBRARY_PATH ADDON_PATH DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH
   

   dbx /usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/firefox-bin

and then "run", after the crash just "where thread all".

May be ... only got 4 gigs in this box

Since it's a 32bit binary, everything > 2GB should be more than enough. You may be running out of address space, and a rqs/rqsall shuffle may be needed.

zahal
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Wrote the following at Jan. 30, 2013, 12:53 p.m...

try unlimiting before running FF.

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hamei
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Wrote the following at Jan. 30, 2013, 7:39 p.m...

canavan wrote: You may be running out of address space, and a rqs/rqsall shuffle may be needed.

Thanks, went to do a rqs and got

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   rqs32: Fatal Error: A /usr/nekoware/lib/firefox-3.0.19/libssl3.so region with address 0x400000 (region end address is 0x43c000).  Failed due to address overlap. Please check firefox-bin and its liblist to make sure that it and its NEEDED shared objects have no overlaps among them by running "elfdump -o" on each of them

So the easiest thing to do is to sit on my fat ass and wait for diegel to put together a tardist with the ssl libraries incorporated

Got a little of this as well, in case it's of interest :

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   (stuff)
   

   libpng.so.3  =>  /usr/nekoware/lib/libpng.so.3
   

   5586:firefox-bin: rld: Warning: elfmap: running new 32-bit executable but finding old 32-bit shared object /usr/lib/libCsup.so in the search path.  You may not have set the environment variables correctly, please set LD_LIBRARY_PATH for old 32-bit objects, LD_LIBRARYN32_PATH for new 32-bit objects and LD_LIBRARY64_PATH for 64-bit objects (e_flags 0x10000003) -- continue searching ...
   

   libCsup.so  =>   /usr/lib32/libCsup.so
   

   (more stuff)

I have no LD_LIBRARYN32_PATH set, on purpose.

It's a bit flaky at the moment but still livable. Better than Flop2, I think.

ShadeOfBlue
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Wrote the following at Jan. 31, 2013, 2:02 a.m...

Have you tried the process mentioned in the rqsall manpage :

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   cp /var/inst/.rqsfiles t
   

   

   rqsall -force -o t -update_registry /usr/lib/so_locations -update_registry_64 /usr/lib64/so_locations t
   

   # Make sure t is not empty!
   

   

   cp t t1
   

   

   rqsall -rescan -same_age -force -move -o t2 t1
   

   # Make sure t2 is not empty!
   

   

   cp t2 /var/inst/.rqsfiles

Some of the old firefox2 libraries may still be present in that list, this will rebuild the entire index and hopefully solve the problem.

hamei
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Wrote the following at Jan. 31, 2013, 4:36 a.m...

ShadeOfBlue wrote: Some of the old firefox2 libraries may still be present in that list, this will rebuild the entire index and hopefully solve the problem.

Discretion is the better part of valor .... I'll just wait a while for the next version, which will probably solve all these minor glitches

It's fine for now as long as you don't open very many tabs.

ajw99uk
From Yorkshire, UK
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Wrote the following at Jan. 31, 2013, 2:55 p.m...

Copied over the FF2 libraris and all seems fine, though not done massive testing. All seems very smooth and swift.

Had been going to hang onto FF2 for the time being but then thought, why?

diegel, thank you!

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Wrote the following at Jan. 31, 2013, 5:21 p.m...

I'm posting with FF3 right now! All systems go!

GREAT work!

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diegel
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Wrote the following at Feb. 1, 2013, 8:08 a.m...

I uploaded neko_firefox3.0.19.tardist to incoming, it will show up in beta soon. This version is now complete with the freebl libraries. I also moved many of the optimization options shadeofblue suggested to CFLAGS, so much more code is optimized with this options. I also double checked, that I don't have any newer software on the build system installed. In the previous builds I used a newer pango version than the current nekoware. This should fix some problems.

@canavan: This is a stripped version. If you still experience problems, I will put an unstripped version on my ftp server for you.

diegel
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Wrote the following at Feb. 1, 2013, 12:45 p.m...

it is in beta now: ftp://ftp.nekoware.de/beta/neko_firefox3.0.19.tardist

canavan
Who joined July 21, 2003, 6:19 a.m.

Wrote the following at Feb. 1, 2013, 2:13 p.m...

The "final" release looks good to me - no more crashes when loading the kickstarter page I've linked to before (or on amazon.com or garmin.com).

Now I'll have to figure out how to configure fonts with subpixel antialiasing and no color fringing.

hamei
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Wrote the following at Feb. 1, 2013, 8:56 p.m...

canavan wrote: Now I'll have to figure out how to configure fonts with subpixel antialiasing and no color fringing.

If anything, it's a little bit too sharp here. It's kind of disturbing

canavan
Who joined July 21, 2003, 6:19 a.m.

Wrote the following at Feb. 2, 2013, 5:34 a.m...

If anything, it's a little bit too sharp here. It's kind of disturbing

Your screenshot looks like you have not configured fontconf at all. Try adjusting thigs in /usr/nekoware/etc/fonts/local.conf and adding some more fonts (so far, I've tried the liberation fonts, the fonts that ship with qt 4.8 as well as the old microsoft "core fonts"). Apparently, you have to turn on antialiasing explicitly even for small sizes, otherwise bitmap replacements may get used. The configuration below is what I'm using now:

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   <dir>/usr/nekoware/etc/fonts/liberation</dir>
   

   <dir>/usr/nekoware/etc/fonts/qtfonts</dir>
   

   <dir>/usr/nekoware/etc/fonts/msttcore</dir>
   

   <dir>/usr/java2/lib/fonts</dir>
   

   <dir>/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi</dir>:unscaled
   

   <dir>/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi</dir>:unscaled
   

   <dir>/usr/nekoware/etc/fonts/URW</dir>
   

   <dir>/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1</dir>
   

   <dir>/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi</dir>
   

   <dir>/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi</dir>
   

   

   <match target="font" >
   

   <edit mode="assign" name="hinting" >
   

   <bool>true</bool>
   

   </edit>
   

   </match>
   

   <match target="font" >
   

   <edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle" >
   

   <const>hintfull</const>
   

   </edit>
   

   </match>
   

   <match target="font" >
   

   <edit mode="assign" name="rgba" >
   

   <const>rgb</const>
   

   </edit>
   

   </match>
   

   

   <match target="font">
   

   <edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter">
   

   <const>lcddefault</const>
   

   </edit>
   

   </match>
   

   

   <match target="font" >
   

   <edit mode="assign" name="autohint" >
   

   <bool>true</bool>
   

   </edit>
   

   </match>
   

   

   <match target="font">
   

   <edit name="antialias" mode="assign">
   

   <bool>true</bool>
   

   </edit>
   

   </match>

jirka
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Wrote the following at Feb. 2, 2013, 7:52 a.m...

diegel wrote: it is in beta now: ftp://ftp.nekoware.de/beta/neko_firefox3.0.19.tardist

Thanks much! It works for me (O2 R10k/250, IRIX 6.5.27). I'm using it to write this post.

BetXen
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Wrote the following at Feb. 2, 2013, 10:26 a.m...

Diegel,

Thanks a lot for making it possible. FF3 works great on my Octane2 (running 6.5.30), but I still have problems on my fuel (also 6.5.30). It is probably due to bad library paths and so on. I could identify pendant references to libgdk_pixbuf (now "ldd .../firefox'bin" gives no error anymore) and tried to renew .rqsfiles as ShadOfBlue suggested... without success for the moment. I always have the std::bad_alloc issue.

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