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Oh, it's a beauty. Me wants.... A lot :lol:

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Thanks, I'm real happy with it! Keep a good eye out on Swedish eBay , I saw one Tezro being sold by a Swedish post-production company not long ago. But it was extremely expensive though. :(

But, you're getting a Fuel soon. Same class roughly ( O3K ). On that same note, I do have some spare parts (from my Tezro ), like 1GB memory kits, to offer you (depending on how many RAM there'll be installed in the Fuel , of course).


Everything is expensive in Sweden, so I can only imagine how much that Tezro would have cost. Ouch.. :lol:


I think My Fuel will have one memory slot available, since I ordered it with at single 2GB stick. So I might be interested of more memory later on. :)


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The €uro hasn't made life a lot cheaper for us either, but it was a while ago and just expensive in general (not just in relation to the Swedish crown).

I do remember that liquor is very expensive in Scandinavian countries, particularly in Sweden and Norway. Although, in supermarkets the price is not all that much higher than here I've noticed and in bars it's roughly the same. I wanted to buy a new battery for my Nikon D-SLR camera when I visited Norway in 2007. I didn't notice a huge difference in the pricing of electronics.


Yeah, sure, some stuff is priced quite normally here in Sweden, but usually, electronics, like highend Nikon lenses are more expensive (I'm using Nikon too 8-) ) than in Germany for an example, and stuff like mountainbikes or good roadracing bikes costs crazy ammount of money in Sweden. Same with alcoholics as you hav seen yourself. But food and stuff I guess is in about the same level.

I don't think there are O3K 2GB DIMMs (besides, I think it'd give memory errors, requiring sequential groupings). I'm quite positive that the largest amount is 1GB per DIMM for the O3K line. Which makes sense, since the memory limit is 8GB of the Tezro (tower; 16GB for the RM version) and 4GB for the Fuel if I'm not mistaken.


Oh, I do hope you are wrong, because Ian Mapleson is building a Fuel with just that spec for me right now. :P hehe



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I have of some weird reasons believed that it only had 2 memory slots, and that it didn't needed to be installed in pairs because the Fuel was the "cheap" silicon Graphics machine.

So it's me who's confused then :mrgreen:


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Here is my new Fuel, newly arrived from Ian. (Thanks Ian, It's a beauty, and thanks for the Nice Network card)

All in all, much faster than my V10 equiped Octane2. Nice :)

Added a new picture of the whole lot.

Added a Sound Cracker Audigy 2 ZS and new Gfxinfo for my current resolution I'm running in.


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fuel 50% hinv -mv
Location: /hw/module/001c01/node
IP34 Board: barcode NCH639     part 030-1707-004 rev -A
Location: /hw/module/001c01/node/cpubus/0
IP34PIMM Board: barcode NCK659     part 030-1730-002 rev -E
Location: /hw/module/001c01/Ibrick/xtalk/13
ASTODY Board: barcode NCK335     part 030-1726-005 rev -A
Location: /hw/module/001c01/Ibrick/xtalk/14
IP34 Board: barcode NCH639     part 030-1707-004 rev -A
Location: /hw/module/001c01/Ibrick/xtalk/15
IP34 Board: barcode NCH639     part 030-1707-004 rev -A
1 600 MHZ IP35 Processor
CPU: MIPS R14000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.4
FPU: MIPS R14010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 2.4
CPU 0 at Module 001c01/Slot 0/Slice A: 600 Mhz MIPS R14000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 2.4. Scache: Size 4 MB Speed 300 Mhz  Tap 0xa
Main memory size: 2048 Mbytes
Instruction cache size: 32 Kbytes
Data cache size: 32 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 4 Mbytes
Memory at Module 001c01/Slot 0: 2048 MB (enabled)
Bank 0 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 1 contains 1024 MB (Premium) DIMMS (enabled)
Integral SCSI controller 2: Version QL1280, low voltage differential
Integral SCSI controller 3: Version QL1280, low voltage differential
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version QL12160, low voltage differential
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 1)
Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 2)
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version QL12160, single ended
CDROM: unit 4 on SCSI controller 1
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty1
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty2
IOC3 parallel port: plp1
Graphics board: V12
Gigabit Ethernet: tg1, module 001c01, PCI bus 2 slot 1
Integral Fast Ethernet: ef0, version 1, module 001c01, pci 4
Iris Audio Processor: version EMU revision A4, number 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x14e4, device 0x1645) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1280) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1216) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1102, device 0x0004) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1102, device 0x7003) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1102, device 0x4001) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0003) PCI slot 4
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1045, device 0xc861) PCI slot 5
HUB in Module 001c01/Slot 0: Revision 2 Speed 200.00 Mhz (enabled)
IP35prom in Module 001c01/Slot n0: Revision 6.210
USB controller: type OHCI


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fuel 111% /usr/gfx/gfxinfo
Graphics board 0 is "ODYSSEY" graphics.
Managed (":0.0") 1920x1200
BUZZ version B.2
PB&J version 1
128MB memory
Banks: 4, CAS latency: 3
Monitor 0 type: DEL -4075
Channel 0:
Origin = (0,0)
Video Output: 1920 pixels, 1200 lines, 60.00Hz (1920x1200_60p)



The new picture, both the Octane and the Fuel is up and running, oh I love them so much.

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Oh yes, Even though Schenkers did their best with my Octane2 you sent me, this one was in extremely good condition. But as with the box my Octane2 came in, they didn't stand a chance against your "nukeproof" packaging. hehe

Oh, yeah. I forgot to thank you for the 400Mhz CPU for my Octane2.. THANKS.!! 8-)


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hamei wrote:
But all CAD programs use real numbers instead of that pull-it push-it approach that you artiste types like. Yuck, artists ! How the hell can you know how big anything is that way ?


Hehe, good point. But in certain 3D programs you always work with real numbers regarding of what your "Grid units" are set to, and it's the only way to work in if you get used to it. Luxology's Modo comes to mind. It always displays where you are "number wise" from world origin using your mouse pointer. And of course, every primitive you create, is set with real world numbers.

Both Maya and XSI are using arbitrary numbers instead, since it uses it's grid as a measuring "tool". If you tell XSI that every grid unit is 1cm, that is what you work with. And that work well too. But I sure prefer Modo's way of displaying numbers, since you always know exactly where you are number wise.


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Hello all.

I haven't had that much time with my Fuel yet, but since I have now installed the 400MHz CPU in my Octane2, the Octane2 definitely got a boost in Maya for interactive speed, big difference. But from what I know from my new Fuel, the Fuel is faster still. With the Fuel you don't even think of the fact that you are sitting in front of an old "slow" 3D workstation, That's how snappy it feels. So while the Octane2 now can push a lot more polygons than before it still feels "laggy" compared to the Fuel, or my PC workstation for that matter.

I just wished that I could get that "Fuel feeling" in my Octane2 too, because the Octane2 looks so much more SGI than the Fuel does. :lol: If anyone understand what I'm out after here. :) Maybe a Dual 600MHz CPU module is the answer to this. What do you think Ian?

But overall, I'm really happy with both my Fuel and Octane2 now. I just love them both to bits.

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Hello :)

Ah, yeah, I guess that the extra bandwidth DDR memory gives, do a lot for the Fuel. Latency does a lot too of course. To bad that you really can't do anything about that on the Octane.

Oh well, at least the Octane can be really fast, just not Fuel fast. So while I can't get the Fuel "feeling" in the Octane, I would suspect that a 600MHz CPU would give me some additional boost, considering how much the 400MHz did for it.

But maybe instead of going for a expensive Dual 600MHz CPU, I might be better of trying to acquire an Onyx2 or something similar, as the "next step" for performance in SGI computing. :lol:

Btw Ian, I took your "Jonas3" Maya scene, and converted it to polygons and combined them. With "Backface culling" on I get about 12-13 Fps compared to 5-6 Fps with the nurbs objects. Quite a difference. :)

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Since I bought a Fuel myself, I have always wondered what are those 2 other "big" cooling fins keeping cool? The small one on the "extra" board is the CPU right?


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indyman007 wrote: I want one.


lol

Is it effective?


:lol:

Well, I'm not sure if you mean if it is effective overall, since all Fuel "coolers" looks just like that, Except the "Turbo Air" sticker. But who knows, maybe that sticker makes it extra good? :P

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jan-jaap wrote:
sgtprobe wrote: the "Turbo Air" sticker.

It's not a sticker, it's a sheet of plastic. In the normal Fuel it's transparent.


Yeah, I know, but I meant that the "turbo air" is a sticker put on the transparent plastic, got a Fool myself, so I know that it is transparent plastic. But maybe it's printed on, instead of a sticker? :)

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jan-jaap wrote:
hamei wrote: Scan it, jan-jaap, and we can all upgrade our Fools !

Here's a better photo. I don't have a flat bed scanner handy, and I doubt that the scanner will play nice with this semi-transparent plastic.



hehehe.. That's just great jan-jaap, now we can easily get some extra power out of our Fools with that turbo thingy text. :lol:

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Added a new picture to the top subject. The mobilephone photo was just horrible of my Fuel. This one shows all my Sgi's too.. The more the merrier, right :lol:

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geezer wrote:
Nice pic. When you boil it all down, SGI sure makes a beautiful box. :)

I hope they can hang on this year, its going to be a tough one for them.


Thanks geezer. :) Yeah, sometimes I can just stare at them for ages, just for their beauty and remember the days when a collection like this was only a boy's dream. I really hope that Sgi is going to survive, would hate to see them going down the drain and taking a great era with 'em.

Hmmm, looking at the picture, doesn't it look like the Cube logo on the O2 and the VW320 is at the same height? Wonder if the cube logo on the Octane 1 is at the same height aswell?

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Yeah, damn.. Thought that there was some smart design element into this. :) Ah well..

But then I looked at the Octane2 and the Fuel's big SGI logo, and it seems they too are at the same height. hehe
I'm not at home this week, otherwise it would be simple to check it out, but it sure does looks like it from the photo. :D


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mapesdhs wrote:
That's such a nice picture! Very cool! 8)

Ian.


Thanks Ian :)

Btw, I was wondering, let's for a moment pretend that I was going to order a Indigo Elan system. Now, how hard is it to get hold of a original keyboard and mouse for it.? From my understanding they are quite rare nowdays.

I know that there are converters that you can order and use, but that's not how it should be done, I want it as pure as possible to get that original feeling. 8-)


Cheers!

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Okay, that's nice to hear.. Is it with cables from the keyboard to the computer too?

And btw, althought it is quite a lot of money for such old hardware, it wasn't that much anyway, it wont kill me at least :lol:

Check you mail Ian. :)

Cheers!

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eMGee wrote: Don't get me wrong SI|3D was a great program also ( Sumatra/XSI lesser in my opinion; they totally butchered some strong points of SI|3D , simply things like NURBS ).



I know a lot of the old players think so too, but I must disagree, I think XSI (when they worked out the kinks) was a lot better than Softimage 3D ever was. When you get used to XSI, it has a better "flow" to it, in lack of better words.

But as always, your mileage may wary :P

Whished I had a version of XSI on my Silicon Graphics hardware, but from what I have heard, it is pretty slow and cumbersome on those machines, maybe thats where it got it's bad reputation?

But regarding Prisms, I have never seen that program at play, actually, I have never before heard anything about it before visiting these forums. Kinda sad, sounds like a really nice program.

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Oh, thanks a lot Ian :D

Cool, nice to know it works there too. It's coded with H.264

Cheers!

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Wow, thanks. :)

The feature set of Prisms as of -96 was really impressive.

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Really interesting thread guy's.


But this made my day, still laughing. :lol:

hamei wrote:
iKitsune wrote: I'm just pissing into the dark.

I often do that. Kinda messy but you can sort of tell by the sound when you're hitting the sweet spot :)


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foetz wrote: i used prisms on an indigo2 with an r4400.
it ran better than any version of xsi on any machine :lol:


Hehe :) I guess I'll have to take your word on that, since I have never used it myself.
I have used following programs in the past and now:

Lightwave
Softimage 3D
Xsi
Modo and some Maya.

I have tried out Houdini, and it's interesting with it's node based workflow, and I guess it is incredibly powerful if you can wrap your head around it.


foetz wrote: the workflow was somewhat between lightwave and houdini.
the renderer was clear and nice. better results than alias imo but not as sharp as lightwave.


Oh, ok. I have been using Lightwave since it first was seperated from the Video toaster from Newtek on the Amiga. So I know that program inside and out. I used to love it, but it just feel so old and slow today. I used to like it's render output too, with some work can look very good today too. But there are so much more easier programs to use today anyway in that regard Imo.


foetz wrote: maybe i remember more tomorrow :D

Looking forward to it, this is very interesting. :)


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Wow, Nice system Ian. :)

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hamei wrote: Oddly enough, that thought never occurred to me ...


Shame on you Hamei, didn't everyone know this? :lol: :?

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As luck would have it, I do Have Alias 11 on My Fuel .. I can check the startup options.. :)

*Just got up, 09.00 am here, switching on the Fuel now*

Btw, there was someone asking in a previous thread how the Realtime OpenGL performance in Poweranimator was compared to Maya. Well, if you compare Maya 6.5 with Alias 11, Maya wins hands down. No contest. Where I can have a model of almost 360K polygons running at 20-25 fps in Maya on my Fuel with a V12, I get like 1 Fps in Alias 11. :shock: So Alias 11 is extremely slow, at least on my system, maybe some configuration one has to do to make it faster.?

Damn, the Fuel is slow today.....

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*yawn*

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Booting

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Okay, that was weird.. It's standing here, just after the selftests and starting to boot, but locks up just when it is setting rbaud to 19200.

Guess I wont be able to check it out since it seems my Fuel just broke down.. Ah, crap.. :(

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Edit fixed some errors in my text. :)

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Pheeeeeeeeeeeeeew..... :mrgreen:

Back again.. Took the Fuel apart, and checked the memory modules, nothing burnt or anything, check all the cables, cooling ducts/fans and reassembly.

Now it is working again.. I got a red blinking light when she just stod there, freaking me out, considering how much she cost me. My beautiful, practically mint condition Fuel. :shock:

Anyway.. Testing the Alias 11 now.

In the "starting box of Alias 11 you have the following options:
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Studio
Advance Modeling
Advance Evaluation
Advance Design Animation
Direct Model

AutoStudio

SurfaceStudio

DesignStudio
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I myself have only tested the stuff under Studio.

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Very nice :D

I assume it is made with Irix Blender, on you SGI hardware?

If so, which machine, and your setup of that machine. And was the workflow (performance) good while using it?

I hope I get some time over soon, so I can play with my SGI hardware for real. Right now I have to make 3D graphics that requires my main PC workstation. So all "3D time" has to be spent on "serious" stuff.. No fun at all.

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s0ke wrote:
What are the specs of your main modeling workstation on your site?


Hello..

Intel Quadcore Q9550 running at 3.6GHz, 8GB of ram, Nvidia 8800GT (G92 core) overclocked. Gigabyte EP35-DS4 motherboard (Stable with good cooling on, so it doesn't crap out when turning up the juice) Coolermaster Realpower 620m power supply.

And I run Vista Ultimate 64bit on it.

What I need the most at the moment is more memory on my Gfx card, 512MB isn't that much when you are working with very highres textures.

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Yeah, they are very nice.

I like the Fuel and Onyx2 the best myself. :D


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This was just great. Just loved see the E&S flightsimulator stuff. Incredible that you could do that advance graphics in 1981, with AA and stuff on. And in pretty high resolution too.

Thanks for that link 8-)

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Updated the hinv on my fuel since I got new hardware in it. also updated the Gfxinfo, all in the first post

Cheers

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Anyone got this one to work properly?

Took awhile to figure out how to save, but then loading what you have saved into the program again is above my current skillz. :)

Otherwise I kinda like it. It's cool that it works just like Softimage at times.


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Oh, yeah

I have mailed him to thank him for his hard work and hinted that we would really like future upgrades on Irix version.


Ok, I see that you can load objects, I can't. Really weird. I looked like it installed correctly on my system, no errors where reported at least. But then again, I'm very bad at using Irix to begin with. I know how to start programs at least ;)


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It seems a cable like this is impossible to find in Sweden in this day and age.

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I need this to connect my external CDROM to my Indigo2 and my Indy workstations. I have one of these, but with a 68 pin connection in one end to connect my CDROM to my Octane2. Maybe there is possible with a 68 pin -> 50 pin converter. Unfortunately, these seems to be impossible to find here too.

Anyone in Sweden, or closeby, having one of these cables/converters that he/she can part with? Would appreciate that very much.

Thanks :)

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recondas wrote:
If nothing turns up in Sweden I have one you can have for whatever postage is needed to get it over there.

If you want to double check suitability, it's an HP cable, part number 5062-3370, roughly a meter (40 inches) in length, 50-pin Centronics on one end, clamp-style latch MD-50 on the other.


WOW, :o thanks a lot Recondas. Thanks for the added info and your most generous offer. I might call that in later if I'm not lucky.

Will do some more searching with the added info.

Thanks again Recondas. :D

Cheers mate!

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urbancamo wrote:
I can do you one as well, I'm in the UK


Wow, thanks Urbancamo. :)

You guys making me all warm and fuzzy on the inside. hehe
Nekochan is really a nice place.

Gonna search some more, might be onto something, but if that doesn't turn up something I might call in that offer. UK is closer, so I guess it will be somewhat easier.

Again, thanks a lot 8-)

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jpstewart wrote:
The Centronics connector is sometimes referred to as a "SCSI-I" connector. The other is sometimes referred to as a HD50 or "SCSI-II" or "SCSI-2" connector. Trying various combinations of those keywords might help your turn up a local one through Google searches.

This online store has what you're looking for in a couple of lengths, but I doubt you'd want to have one shipped from Canada.


Yeah, with that added info it really looks like I'm onto something.

Will let you know how it goes, but it sure looks good now.

Thank you all very much.

Cheers :)

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Nope, no opinions, no threats excpet the comment that I agree :mrgreen:


Wouldn't mind if my Fuel could transform into a dual 600MHz CPU module and one V12 for my Octane. :lol:

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But that's the problem with the Fuel imho. That the case feels like a PC, and if you open it up, it even looks like a PC. So If I'm gonna use a slow computer for some retro computing it better have the whole package and lineage sort of(you know what I mean). If I want the feeling of operating hardware that has the mechanical feel of a PC, why not use my main workstation that's trillions times faster anyway (and has way better case too with almost no visible cables etc. lol).

Of course, the Irix experience on the Fuel is like magic, and after awhile you forget about small niggles like build quality and using the computer as it was intended for. But for me, the build of the machine is the very reason I can't manage my self to press the start button that often, and rather power up my Octane instead. Oh, yeah, and the noise the Fuel produces with gazillons of small fans isn't making it better either. Sure the Octane may be louder, but boy, I sure take that instead of the Brainsaw noises from my Fuel.

Hmm, I think what my next mod will be. A quiet Fuel and Octane would be nice.

Silly? Oh yes :)

/Jonas

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