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As you can see in the subject, I finally managed to get my hands on an Onyx2 Deskside. This thread is just to share my happiness with you and maybe to prepare you for a bunch of questions that will most certainly arise on my way of getting to know the system.

If this sort of announcment better belongs into a general chat forum instead of the "getting started" please feal free to move it.

Actually what I bought (unfortunately they obviously don"t throw these things at you like they seem to do in the US here in Europe or I simply don't know the proper sources, so I had to pay for them) was 6 big boxes and 4 small boxes. Why do I say boxes? Because the systems were more or less untested and of uncertain content. Of course on top of that, they were local pickup only. But I felt it was time for me to finally get an Onyx2...

So I mounted my little family van early in the morning in Brussels and travelled to Cologne to exchange it for a Mercedes Sprinter. Then rode on to near Frankfurt. There I did some inspecting / testing (more of that later) loaded everything and went back to Cologne. Shifted half of the load to the family van and went back home late during that night. So right now halve of the stuff is in Cologne, half of it in Brussels.

What did I get:

1 Onyx 2 Deskside, 2 x R10000 - 250, 1GB, IR2E, DIVO, GVC, with Skins (new logo) (unfortunately quite some scratches)
1 Onyx 2 Deskside, 2 x R10000 - 250, 1,28 GB, IR2E, DIVO, GVC, with Skins (old logo) (even more scratches)
1 Onyx 2 Deskside, still untested because the Nodeboard was not installed and I don't have an 7/64 Hex tool, Skins
1 Onyx 2 Deskside, still untested because the fan tray is missing, Skins ripped of by some idiot destroying most of the notches in the process
1 Origin2000(?) or Onyx2 Rack compute module, I can't tell the difference yet, 2 Nodeboards installed, 2 Nodeboards loose. Strangely enough the system has a null router only, so these boards can't have been operating in that cube together, no fan tray; How are these systems cooled when in a rack?
1 Origin2000(?) or Onyx2 Rack compute module, I can't tell the difference yet, 2 Nodeboards installed, no PSU, no fan tray

4 naked Octanes - 2 "dead" (need further investigation), 2 alive, one dual R12k300 one dual R10k250, one MXE one MXI both with a board that identifies as Galileo1.5(?) and a dual channel FC card with DB-9 copper connectors.

As you can imagine this will lead to multiple questions in the near future. Will try to post some hinv asap.

For the time being just wanted to share my being happy with you altough I fear I paid a little to much after what I found so far to be included.

Cheers,

Frank

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jan-jaap wrote:
This batch, I assume ? Congratulations :)

I can't check right know because our companys proxy forbids eBay, but if the seller is vintagetools than that's the one.
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Every unit is supposed to have a PSU and a fan tray, but they are amongst the parts that fail most often. Looks like someone gutted one or two systems to keep the rest going.

Yes, looks like it. I will try how many "complete" systems I can assemble and sell the rest as spare parts.
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7/64 inch hex keys can be ordered online, or from shops that deal with machinery from the US (like a Harley Davidson shop).

I ordered one online in the Netherlands. Hopefully it will arrive soon. This Harley tip is cool. Should have known that before ordering. There should be a Harley shop somewhere in Brussels I guess.
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If you search the forum you'll find some recipes to recover scruffed skins. Often an amazing recovery is possible.

I will search for it. Thanks for the tip.
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At least you've got plenty of parts to pick and choose, and you can recover part of your cost by selling of the remains.

Yes, that's the idea. I just doubt it will cover my cost. But then again: It's a hobby and hobbies cost money. Once I have a clear picture what I want to keep and what can be sold I will probably put it into the appropriate group.

Cheers,

Frank

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Does GVC = DG5-2/GVO?

Yes. That's what I meant. I am sitting here in my office and can't do any hinv so I was writing the inventory from what I remembered. It is an option for the DG5-2 ("Graphics to Video Option?").
They also have a card that shows up as DIVO as a XIO Option. From what I heard these machines were used in a TV studio. Unfortunately I have no cabling or peripherals (nor knowledge) to put this stuff to use.
The Octanes have a similar looking board. It shows as Galileo 1.5. It seems to be a digital SD Video option for MGRAS equipped Octanes pretty similar to the DIVO.
The Origins contained 2 x 1000BaseSX, 1 x QL2200 (HSSDC Connector) and 1 x QL2310 (LC Connector) Fibre Channel cards in PCI horseshoes. No cardcage unfortunately but 4 horseshoes is pretty cool already I think.
Since I now have enough FC Boards to equip almost every SGI I own with one its time to put that FC-Array to proper use. Unfortunately it is a JBOD. I managed to define a software raid from my Octane on it but to all others on the SAN they just look like individual disks. I am not looking for a real SAN with storage management software but it would be cool to have one raid mounted rw on one Workstation and ro on all the others for common files.
Maybe I should put a search in the appropriate area ...

Cheer,

Frank

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Pontus wrote:
Congratulations, not to bad price I think for that lot. You inspire me to do some work with my own systems.

I totally agree with you. Unfortunately the price was not for the lot but for one individual system! Multiply by the number of systems, reduce by some hard bargening, crying, yelling and begging and that's what I paid. I initially wanted one system only. But the idea of having multiple systems to get components from to enhance the one system I intend to keep in the end was just to tempting. I am pretty sure I will not have a good return on investment in the end. :D

But at least I was able to change my Onyx2 from one nodeboard with 2 x R10000 - 250 to two Nodeboards with 2 x R12000 - 300 already. My idea is to check and clean the other two Onyx2 that at least have skins and sell them to get a small part of the money I paid back. I will advertise them on Nekochan once they have been tested and hinv'ed.

Cheers,

A broke Frank

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@recondas: Thanks for pointing me to the links.
I did a fresh install of IRIX 6.5.28 on a new 73GB disk. Than added the DIVO1.2 Software from Ian's page and updated via the Overlay2_3/dist/unbundled DIVO stuff. Seems OK so far. The board shows in the hinv. I can not recall seeing any demo packages as indicated in the release notes, though.
I will post a hinv -mv and a /usr/gfx/gfxinfo -v in the corresponding group shortly for you experts to take a look if you see anything fishy. I kept the original disk to be able to check whats on it later.
Did not do that with the second Onyx2 because it did not boot to a graphical login even though console was set to g. Turns out its probably an issue with the graphics pipe because the fresh install does not work either. Will post SYSLOG later.

Cheers,

Frank

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Thanks again for the advice.
I will check again for the demos. Don't want to bother you too much without any "hard" data. I am just typing this from the office and do not have access to the system to check directly.
I have the courtesy license of shotmaker somewhere.

The other system is booting. I can access it via a serial console on Port 1 without problems and it does not give any errors on the diag port. But the graphics screen just shows a screen with one open window without title bar (pretty much like the window during boot. It never gets a prompt or graphical login. So I checked the SYSLOG and found (trying to recall by heart) that I get welcomed to ARM land, I also get welcomed to GE land and then something fails and the system asks whether the display generator is missing. I will quote the exact messages once I get home and the kids are in bed (and I get free time by the management).

TGIF,
Frank

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As already announced more than once my first hinv post:

Code:
Location: /hw/module/1/slot/n2/node
IP31PIMM8MB Board: barcode KAG305     part 030-1401-002 rev  B
IP31 Board: barcode JRR148     part 030-1255-003 rev  D
Location: /hw/module/1/slot/n1/node
MODULEID Board: barcode K0027778   part              rev
IP31 Board: barcode JSB327     part 030-1255-003 rev  D
4P1G5_MPLN Board: barcode LZG096     part 030-1066-002 rev  L
IP31PIMM8MB Board: barcode JSB147     part 030-1401-002 rev  B
Location: /hw/module/1/slot/io4/kona
GE16-4 Board: barcode KFZ459     part 030-1398-001 rev  E
Location: /hw/module/1/slot/io2/divo
DIVO Board: barcode LMZ645     part 030-1305-003 rev  A
Location: /hw/module/1/slot/io1/baseio
BASEIO Board: barcode GAA778     part 030-0734-002 rev  P
MIO Board: barcode GAD558     part 030-0880-003 rev  G
Location: /hw/module/1/slot/io3/fibre_channel
FIBRE-CHANNEL Board: barcode FHA237     part 030-0927-003 rev  A
4 300 MHZ IP27 Processors
CPU: MIPS R12000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.3
FPU: MIPS R12010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 2.3
CPU 0 at Module 1/Slot 2/Slice A: 300 Mhz MIPS R12000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 2.3. Scache: Size 8 MB Speed 200 Mhz  Tap 0xa
CPU 1 at Module 1/Slot 2/Slice B: 300 Mhz MIPS R12000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 2.3. Scache: Size 8 MB Speed 200 Mhz  Tap 0xa
CPU 2 at Module 1/Slot 1/Slice A: 300 Mhz MIPS R12000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 2.3. Scache: Size 8 MB Speed 200 Mhz  Tap 0xa
CPU 3 at Module 1/Slot 1/Slice B: 300 Mhz MIPS R12000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 2.3. Scache: Size 8 MB Speed 200 Mhz  Tap 0xa
Main memory size: 1536 Mbytes
Instruction cache size: 32 Kbytes
Data cache size: 32 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 8 Mbytes
Memory at Module 1/Slot 82: 512 MB (enabled)
Bank 0 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Memory at Module 1/Slot 81: 1024 MB (enabled)
Bank 0 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 1 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Integral SCSI controller 2: Version Fibre Channel AIC-1160, revision 1
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version QL1040B (rev. 2), single ended
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 1)
Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 2)
CDROM: unit 6 on SCSI controller 0
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version QL1040B (rev. 2), single ended
Integral SCSI controller 3: Version Fibre Channel AIC-1160, revision 1
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty1
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty2
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty3
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty4
IOC3 parallel port: plp1
Graphics board: InfiniteReality2E
Integral Fast Ethernet: ef0, version 1, module 1, slot io1, pci 2
Iris Audio Processor: version RAD revision 7.0, number 1
Origin BASEIO board, module 1 slot 1: Revision 3
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0002) PCI slot 0
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0002) PCI slot 2
Origin FIBRE CHANNEL board, module 1 slot 3: Revision 3
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x9004, device 0x1160) PCI slot 0
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x9004, device 0x1160) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0003) PCI slot 6
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0003) PCI slot 2
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1020) PCI slot 0
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x1020) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0005) PCI slot 7
DIVO Video: controller 0 unit 0: Input, Output
IOC3/IOC4 external interrupts: 1
HUB in Module 1/Slot 2: Revision 5 Speed 100.00 Mhz (enabled)
HUB in Module 1/Slot 1: Revision 5 Speed 100.00 Mhz (enabled)
IP27prom in Module 1/Slot n2: Revision 6.156
IP27prom in Module 1/Slot n1: Revision 6.156
IO6prom on Global Master Baseio in Module 1/Slot io2: Revision 6.156


Followed by gfxinfo:

Code:
Graphics board 0 is "KONAL" graphics.
Managed (":0.0") 1920x1200
Display has 2 channels
4 GEs (of 4), occmask = 0x0f
4MB external BEF ram, 32bit path
2 RM9 boards (of 2) 1/1/0/0
Texture Memory: 64MB/64MB/-/-
Medium pixel depth
32K cmap
GVO option detected
brd: 80f61806 3020c06/3020c06/-/- f9311002
ge: 0 14832057 24731057 14231057
rm0: 15032057 15431057
4631057 2/2/2/2
4d31057 2/2/2/2/2/2/2/2
4938057 5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5
rm1: 15032057 15431057
4631057 2/2/2/2
4d31057 2/2/2/2/2/2/2/2
4938057 5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5
dg: 05532057
5838057 1/1/1/1
5631057 1/1
GE:   NIC #:      0000.0047.1ccb (family: 0b)
Serial #:   KFZ459
Part #:     030-1398-001
KT:   No NIC serial number available.
RM0:  NIC #:      0000.003e.b25d (family: 0b)
Serial #:   KDZ417
Part #:     030-1402-001
TM0:  NIC #:      0000.003e.ab55 (family: 0b)
Serial #:   KDZ453
Part #:     030-1053-001
RM1:  NIC #:      0000.003e.945e (family: 0b)
Serial #:   KDZ413
Part #:     030-1402-001
TM1:  NIC #:      0000.003e.92c9 (family: 0b)
Serial #:   KEC295
Part #:     030-1053-001
RM2:  No NIC serial number available.
TM2:  No NIC serial number available.
RM3:  No NIC serial number available.
TM3:  No NIC serial number available.
BP:   No NIC serial number available.
DG:   NIC #:      0000.0038.d1ad (family: 0b)
Serial #:   HLJ885
Part #:     030-1242-001
DGOPT:NIC #:      0000.0039.2172 (family: 0b)
Serial #:   HLJ906
Part #:     030-1184-002
Input Sync: Voltage - Video Level; Source - Internal; Genlocked - False
Channel 0:
Origin = (0,0)
Video Output: 1920 pixels, 1200 lines, 66.00Hz (1920x1200_66.vfo)
Video Format Flags:  (none)
Sync Output(s):
Composite sync on Green
Composite TTL sync on Aux 0
Using Gamma Map 0


Regards,

Frank

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Coming back to my last post.
I was able to locate the DIVO demos and diags. It seems that the default is not to install them together with the basic DIVO drivers. Selected them manually and can run the diags now.

For the other system: I swapped the DG and got rid of the irsaudit errors (concerning GVO) and the sporadic reluctance to start the graphics. But I still had "graphis bugs" even though I had 0 errors in irsaudit. Changed the GE also and they are gone now and irsaudit still shows no errors.

Managed to get another two machines from Cologne to Brussels in the mean time which enabled me to do the above swapping in the first place. And got a third machine running. Some more cleaning and testing and I think they are ready to be offered to the collectors.

Cheers,

Frank

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Hello folks,

I am looking for the above. I just need a single of the fans that are on the front of the I-Brick, which are identical to the ones on the C-Bricks as far as I can say.

Will be on TDY for a week but will reply to any PM after that latest.

Frank

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I am German Air Force...

And I am currently at NATO. I picked up the term TDY from my US colleagues.

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ramq wrote:
I've got some brand new spare parts for Origin3xxx series stuff in storage at home. I'll dig into it as soon as I can.


Thanks for the offer. I found one on eBay in the meantime. So no need to dig. But thank you anyway.

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After describing the following problem piggybacking somebody elses thread and getting little feedback I decided to open this new thread because I hope some of you might have some insight into this.

As the title says I have an Origin3200 with 1 IBrick, 1 DBrick, 2 CBricks and a power bay which shows the following symptoms:

The machine starts up nicely, all CPUs, RAMs and disks are discovered nicely and I can log on at the console or via network. After some running time the IBrick detects the -12V line to be way out of bounds. It says -24 V or even -36 Volts. Very disturbing. Obviously the system shuts down to protect itself.

From what I read in the other thread the faulty part can be the 12V VRM in the IBrick. That is where my questions start:

1. Do you insiders know that the -12v are supplied by the 12V VRM so that I can be sure this is the VRM to replace? It says 12V on the PCB next to the VRM. It says -12V in another location on the PCB and there is just a big chip with a heatsink nearby (so no easily replaceable part).

2. As I have a Fuel which is reporting faulty voltage and shutting down and my reading told me it is a faulty readout and not a faulty PSU do you think something like this could be the case with the IBrick too?

Sorry for posing these questions again but I just hope that some of you have some experience in this field. This is not meant to say that the reply I got from pierocks was not helpful! Thanks for that. I just hope I am not already at the end of my journey with this nice machine.

Maybe I should post a photo so you can share my affection for this system?

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Here is the hinv of my Origin3200 I managed to get before the IBrick shut her down because of a -12V out of limits error:

Code:
hinv -mv
Location: /hw/module/001c04/node
IP35 Board: barcode LPM600     part 030-1604-006 rev -A
Location: /hw/module/001c04/node/cpubus/0
IP35PIMM Board: barcode LBD020     part 030-1616-002 rev -G
Location: /hw/module/001c04/node/cpubus/1
IP35PIMM Board: barcode LBD053     part 030-1616-002 rev -G
Location: /hw/module/001c04/Ibrick/xtalk/14
IBRICK Board: barcode LBH248     part 030-1557-007 rev -A
Location: /hw/module/001c04/Ibrick/xtalk/15
IBRICK Board: barcode LBH248     part 030-1557-007 rev -A
Location: /hw/module/001c07/node
IP35 Board: barcode LPM626     part 030-1604-006 rev -A
Location: /hw/module/001c07/node/cpubus/0
IP35PIMM Board: barcode LPC227     part 030-1616-002 rev -G
Location: /hw/module/001c07/node/cpubus/1
IP35PIMM Board: barcode LPC944     part 030-1616-002 rev -G
8 400 MHZ IP35 Processors
CPU: MIPS R12000 Processor Chip Revision: 3.5
FPU: MIPS R12010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 3.5
CPU 0 at Module 001c04/Slot 0/Slice A: 400 Mhz MIPS R12000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 3.5. Scache: Size 8 MB Speed 266 Mhz  Tap 0xa
CPU 1 at Module 001c04/Slot 0/Slice B: 400 Mhz MIPS R12000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 3.5. Scache: Size 8 MB Speed 266 Mhz  Tap 0xa
CPU 2 at Module 001c04/Slot 0/Slice C: 400 Mhz MIPS R12000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 3.5. Scache: Size 8 MB Speed 266 Mhz  Tap 0xa
CPU 3 at Module 001c04/Slot 0/Slice D: 400 Mhz MIPS R12000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 3.5. Scache: Size 8 MB Speed 266 Mhz  Tap 0xa
CPU 4 at Module 001c07/Slot 0/Slice A: 400 Mhz MIPS R12000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 3.5. Scache: Size 8 MB Speed 266 Mhz  Tap 0xa
CPU 5 at Module 001c07/Slot 0/Slice B: 400 Mhz MIPS R12000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 3.5. Scache: Size 8 MB Speed 266 Mhz  Tap 0xa
CPU 6 at Module 001c07/Slot 0/Slice C: 400 Mhz MIPS R12000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 3.5. Scache: Size 8 MB Speed 266 Mhz  Tap 0xa
CPU 7 at Module 001c07/Slot 0/Slice D: 400 Mhz MIPS R12000 Processor Chip (enabled)
Processor revision: 3.5. Scache: Size 8 MB Speed 266 Mhz  Tap 0xa
Main memory size: 8192 Mbytes
Instruction cache size: 32 Kbytes
Data cache size: 32 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 8 Mbytes
Memory at Module 001c04/Slot 0: 4096 MB (enabled)
Bank 0 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 1 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 2 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 3 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 4 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 5 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 6 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 7 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Memory at Module 001c07/Slot 0: 4096 MB (enabled)
Bank 0 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 1 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 2 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 3 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 4 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 5 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 6 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Bank 7 contains 512 MB (Standard) DIMMS (enabled)
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version Fibre Channel QL2200A, 33 MHz PCI
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 1)
Disk drive: unit 114 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 114)
Disk drive: unit 117 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 117)
Disk drive: unit 124 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 124)
Integral SCSI controller 5: Version IEEE1394 SBP2
IEEE1394 CDROM: node 10100310003969 port 0 on SCSI controller 5
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty3
Integral Fast Ethernet: ef0, version 1, module 001c04, pci 4
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x1077, device 0x2200) PCI slot 1
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x10a9, device 0x0003) PCI slot 4
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x11c1, device 0x5802) PCI slot 5
PCI Adapter ID (vendor 0x104c, device 0x8009) PCI slot 6
IOC3/IOC4 external interrupts: 1
HUB in Module 001c04/Slot 0: Revision 2 Speed 200.00 Mhz (enabled)
HUB in Module 001c07/Slot 0: Revision 2 Speed 200.00 Mhz (enabled)
IP35prom in Module 001c04/Slot n0: Revision 6.210
IP35prom in Module 001c07/Slot n0: Revision 6.210
IEEE 1394 High performance serial bus controller 0: Type: OHCI, Version 0 0
USB controller: type OHCI

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OK, let me tell you what I found so far:

When the system has been switched off for a while everything looks perfect. I can power up and get this:

Code:
001c04-L1>cti env
001i14:
Environmental monitoring is enabled and running.

Description    State       Warning Limits     Fault Limits       Current
-------------- ----------  -----------------  -----------------  -------
12V BIAS    Enabled  10%  10.80/ 13.20  20%   9.60/ 14.40   12.250
2.5V    Enabled  10%   2.30/  2.82  20%   2.05/  3.07    2.509
3.3V    Enabled  10%   2.97/  3.63  20%   2.64/  3.96    3.302
12V    Enabled  10%  10.80/ 13.20  20%   9.60/ 14.40   12.000
5V    Enabled  10%   4.50/  5.50  20%   4.00/  6.00    5.018
-12V    Enabled  10% -10.80/-13.20  20%  -9.60/-14.40  -12.195
3.3V AUX    Enabled  10%   2.97/  3.63  20%   2.64/  3.96    3.285
5V AUX    Enabled  10%   4.50/  5.50  20%   4.00/  6.00    4.966

Description     State       Warning RPM  Current RPM
--------------- ----------  -----------  -----------
FAN  0     LEFT    Enabled         2160         2481
FAN  1   CENTER    Enabled         2160         2556
FAN  2    RIGHT    Enabled         2160         2500

Advisory   Critical   Fault      Current
Description       State       Temp       Temp       Temp       Temp
----------------- ----------  ---------  ---------  ---------  ---------
0 POWER 0           Enabled   30C/ 86F   35C/ 95F   40C/104F   22C/ 71F
1 POWER 1           Enabled   30C/ 86F   35C/ 95F   40C/104F   22C/ 71F


And this:
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001c04-L1>cti pwr vrm
001i14:
VRM Type     Location  Present  Okay
--------------  --------  -------  -------
12V         1   passed   passed
5V         2   passed   passed
3.3V         3   passed   passed
3.3V         4   passed   passed
2.5V         7   passed   passed
-12V  on board      N/A   passed
48V       N/A      N/A   passed


As I had feared the -12V are not generated by the 12V VRM but somewhere on the main board.

I managed to get a hinv from the system because usually it takes some time till the error occurs. The hinv can be found here: http://forums.nekochan.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=16723604

I will try to fire her up again and see what information I can get from the L1 after it shut her down again. Will edit the post then.

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So, this is what it look like:

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001c04-L1>cti env
001i14:
Environmental monitoring is enabled and running.

Description    State       Warning Limits     Fault Limits       Current
-------------- ----------  -----------------  -----------------  -------
12V BIAS    Enabled  10%  10.80/ 13.20  20%   9.60/ 14.40   12.250
2.5V    Enabled  10%   2.30/  2.82  20%   2.05/  3.07    2.509
3.3V    Enabled  10%   2.97/  3.63  20%   2.64/  3.96    3.302
12V    Enabled  10%  10.80/ 13.20  20%   9.60/ 14.40   12.000
5V    Enabled  10%   4.50/  5.50  20%   4.00/  6.00    5.018
-12V      Fault  10% -10.80/-13.20  20%  -9.60/-14.40  -31.687
3.3V AUX    Enabled  10%   2.97/  3.63  20%   2.64/  3.96    3.285
5V AUX    Enabled  10%   4.50/  5.50  20%   4.00/  6.00    4.966


Check out the -12V current.

Btw, does really nobody know if the L1 of a brick tends to malfunction the way it does in the Fuel? I mean show erraneous data / readings.

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Damn. I feared so. Nevertheless as I figured it can not get any worse I switched off environmental monitoring on that brick. It reported -32V all the time but I could not see or smell :-( any ill effect...

Still I have a very bad feeling about this.

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@ShadeofBlue: I am not sure whether I fully understand the PCI PCI-X part (lack of background knowledge). So, what you are saying is that PCI used -12V and PCI-X does not any more? The only PCI Board installed is the FC Controller. Lets assume I want to install a Gigabit LAN Card later will I get in trouble because it uses -12V and will be destroyed?

I see your point with not letting it run like this for long. But what are my options. If environmental monitoring is on it is only a question of time until the system shuts down. So its basically a useless brick.

@recondas: The only PCI Board is the FC-Controller for the boot disk and array. I doubt that if it were improperly seated it would cause an error that took 20 minutes from starting the system till it occurs. Nevertheless since any chance of fixing it is better than no chance I will have a close look and reinsert it. I will also open it and take some photos like you suggested. Will post them once I found the time to do that (hopefully later today).

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No, you shouldn't apologize. It's me who lacks basic knowledge here.

Anyway. I took out the FC Card, tested, reseated, tested again took a different power supply and so on to no avail.
I took some pictures which I still have to check and post later. How many megapixel are a good compromise between sharpness and thread loading times.

After reassembling machine no brought a memory exeption, some how set the global master to the other c-brick and then complains that it has no IO. So for the time being it doesn't boot at all any more. Definitely need to do some reading...

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Ready to attach some pictures:

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I did what hamei suggested. Normally only using my soldering iron on my slotcars it was quite a thrill for me. And I had an interesting learning curve:

Board Nr. 1 I chose was obviously 5V only so it did not have the notch near the rear of the chassis. Btw it was a soundblaster live.

Board Nr. 2 was a Realtek 10/100 network card. I did have the notches but did not have a pin going to -12V

So I ended up using an original sgi 10/100 network card I pulled out of my O2 some time ago. Basically I did, what you can see in the first picture (that is still the soundblaster and the right wire is soldered to pin 4 instead of 3 for ground).
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I took a photo of my voltmeter next to the output of L1 command cti pwr.
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So I would say it is a false alarm. If it were a productive system turning of env monitoring would not be an option but for a hobbyist system I think I will live with that. I do with my Fuel so what the heck. If I get bored I could at least check if I find ICs that are like the Fuel ones that somebody in this forum dared to replace.

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L1 is working Brick wise. I am connected to a C-Brick with my "Terminal" which is an O2 with cu. I should take a picture of that too. The O2 with the 1600SW look cool on top of the short rack.

Anyway from the console in L1 mode you can issue commands to all bricks (which is 2 c-bricks and the i-brick in my case) or to individual bricks. So
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cti env off
turns off environmental monitoring in the i-brick only.

I will do that picture and an "* env" after breakfast. You can see then that env is off on the i-brick put still on on the others.

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I am not sure whether I understood that.
Let me ask you about the NumaLink cabling first. Currently XIO10 of the I-Brick is connected to XIO(II) on the first (lower) C-Brick and the two C-Bricks are connected Link(NI) to Link(NI). That is what I understood from reading the manual.
I was always tempted to connect XIO11 of the I-Brick to XIO(II) of the second (upper) C-Brick for redundancy and / or better bandwidth but since I found no indication whether this is a legal configuration I did not do it.

If I read you correctly what you mean is connecting the upper C-brick to the I-Brick instead of the lower one, right?

Second thing: I was always searching for a place where you can find the location of the console (which brick) and this master / slave thing. I know I read something but give all the readig I did on Onyx2 and Origin2000 and Origin3200 all at the same time and given my age (above 40) :-) I probably had a brain stall in the process. So /etc/ioconfig.conf is one such spot? But obviously that can only be read once the C-Brick found the I-Brick and the boot drive. So that is operating system level. I guess there need to be some NVRAM settings, too.
This is all mind-boggeling. Will try to clean up my server room today (shitty weather, so the perfect time to do that), make the photo I promised and then invest some more time in booting and exploring the system.

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OK, as usual it got late. So it is 00:30 in Brussels, that's after breakfast alright. So I will at least post the picture I promised. Forgot to do the * env before shutdown so that will have to wait.
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While I was at it, I took some pictures of the "server room". Since it is a little off topic, I will post them in the gallery if neko admits me.

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Given the first error messages from your post I would guess it is an issue with the scsi backplane or controller or maybe a bad external scsi cable and not a disk failure. If you have a second system you can check the drives by plugging them in as option drives and do an fdisk for instance.

If you don"t have a second system you could remove all drives, insert one of the option drives in the lowest slot and see where that gets you. It is unlikely all disks fail at once. You will obviously not be able to boot from the option drive but if the SCSI device / cable error messages remain it is very likely not a disk issue. If they go away you could do an fx and look at the partition table without making any changes, thus not destroying your data. If that looks good do the same with the root drive.

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My Onyx2 currently has 2 RM9s. If I can get my hands on an RM10, would you say that one RM10 is superior to two RM9s? I know the RM10 has 256MB of texture memory, and the RM9 has 64MB. So one RM10 would still have twice the texture memory than two RM9s. I think the analogue question applies to RM10 vs RM11. Any thoughts (or even facts)?

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I know this type of question has been asked multiple times but from all my reading I still don't see a clear picture. So here is my very specific question:

The Onyx2 has a DG5-2, so this gives me two 13W3 connectors. If I were to use a single display I would go for a full HD resolution which I know the IR2E is capable of (and then some). I have a GDM90W11 and tested the resolution with that. Result is satisfactory (there is a picture) but the display is worn out so I would not call that crystal clear. So I figured why not use the 24" SUN TFT I have. It has a DVI and a 13W3 input. So I figured I need to hook up to the 13W3 since the DVI is digital only. I used a straight through SUN cable as well as SGI cable. The result was no sync. Since the pins for sync signal are different between SGI and SUN I said: OK that can happen. I was hoping that it was going to work like my old 20" SUN does but it doesn't. The SUN CRT probably just uses SOG when it can not find any other sync signal that makes sense which is something the TFT is not doing. I am just guessing here, though. My next test step was to use a original SGI 13W3 to VGA cable. That way I was sure the sync signals were now on the correct pins for the average PC monitor. I then connected that to a SUN VGA to 13W3 adapter. It came with the raptor graphics in my SUN E450 card which has a VGA output and is normally intended to hook up that SUN to a 13W3 monitor. This gave me a picture but no matter how hard I tried adjusting the TFT I never got to a picture that was even near the quality I get when hooking up a Fuel to the DVI. Even though I use the native resolution it remains rather blurred and needs a lot of shifting around to fit the monitor properly. If I let the monitor auto-adjust it screws up the picture even more.

So after this long and sad story here is the question (finally):

Is this something specific to that SUN display or the SUN adapter? I mean can I buy a standard 24" PC Display, use the original SGI 13W3 to VGA cable and expect to get a clear and nice picture? I know there is different qualities of PC monitors and probably not any one will do, so the answer might be: "depends on the monitor", but given I choose the right one can I expect to get a decent picture? What I mean is, has anybody been there and can confirm it is worthwhile to buy and attach a 24" TFT to an analogue output?

If the answer is yes. Can I run two of them? I know it depends on frame buffer size and bandwidth. So has anybody hooked up two 1920 x 1200 or 1920 x 1080 displays to their Onyx2?

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I see. So one RM10 means actually four times the texture memory of two RM9s. In the same time it means a downgrade in raster memory to half of what I had before. And while the texture memory of one RM10 is four times that of two RM9s there is a speed disadvantage because it is only one board. Did I get it right?

The RM11 on the other hand has 1024MB of texture memory so again an increase by multiplier 4 as opposed to RM10 (no matter how many. But I understand the raster memory of the RM11 is substantially bigger. (2,5 GB opposed to 160MB?) so in that case one RM11 would mean an increase in raster memory and texture memory over any combination of RM10s. Is that correct so far?

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Well I wasn't actually bored last night but nevertheless I wanted to know if the I-Brick contains the same chips that cause the L1 troubles in the Fuels so I reopened it and had a closer look. On the front one of the two big boards the I-Brick contains I could make out 3 of the infamous DS1780 chips (see markings).
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I tried to do a closeup shot but my camera didn't give me a picture where you can read the inscription of the chips. Anyway, since I have neither the knowledge nor the equipment to investigate any further: now what? Should I go and find a shop that can replace the chips for me and hope that they are responsible for the wrong -12V reading?

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Actually I asked myself the same question. Why would I want a C-Brick that uses 3U and can take 4 CPUs and 8GB and needs another 4U (I-Brick) to get harddrives, CDROM, PCI slots and such, if I can have an o300 that can also have 4 CPUs, I think 4GB but has all the basic I/O and comes as a nice 2U package.
Then I thought: Well the maximum of modules you can link with o300 are two, while the o3000 familiy scales up to somewhere I can't even imagine. But: wrong. Maybe the biggest O3000 configurations are bigger than the biggest O300, but using NUMALink modules you can build o300 configurations up to 128 processors. Well: who knows?

Going back on topic: any ideas about the DS1780?

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I just took a picture of an Onyx2 Deskside midplane. The NIC is marked. So if you look for it check under nodeboard N1 near the bottom.
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@jan-jaap: Found a shop in Leuven who says they can do it. So I will try to get the chips now and then lets see. I just hope he knows what he is doing because now the IBrick is working with env monitoring off. So if replacing the chips doesn't fix it, so be it, but if it really gets destroyed in the process then I will have an Origin 3200 with no IBrick. And I have seen that these IBricks are relatively rare and expensive, so getting a new one will probably cost me more than the whole system.

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Yes one Cx Brick would really be a nice replacement for my two CBrick(s).
It has 4U, so it is 1U higher than a CBrick but:
- It can contain 16 Processors as opposed to 4
- It can contain 32 GB of memory as opposed to 8 GB
- It contains the functionality of an RBrick, so it has 4 NUMALink and 4 XIO Ports (external)
- It works with all existing Bricks (C, I, P, X, N, G, V,...)

Anybody has one he wants to get rid of? :mrgreen:

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I jut paid 1800,- € for a dual processor Tezro without any flame or similar stuff. Only to see, that others offer them for 900$ two days later. :-( I am even paying this in multiple pieces. (I don't know how you say that in english correctly).

Yes prices are serious but that's what you should expect if you are looking for "relatively modern" stuff.

But hey, where is the fun in collecting this stuff if you can get anything you want right now for free.

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It is all very nice that we present options and discuss pros and cons of "blowjobs" and alcohol. I wonder if the original poster will show up again and give us some feedback on his findings, though.

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Does anybody have a hint where to find MS Visio shapes for SGI equipment?
Trying to document my LAN and would love to have proper shapes instead of generic icons.

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So I got the replacement DS1780s. Thanks jan-jaap for the tip. Had to pay customs. Damn.
Next week I will hand in the IBrick board and three chips to the shop that does the replacement. What I want you to do is:

a) keep your fingers crossed that at least the system is still running after the replacement

b) even better would be that this really fixes the false alarms

Will keep you posted.

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Thomas: Did you make any progress? If the NIC is the problem and a replacement NIC would be helpful, let me know because the one on the photo would be available.
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@zuluchas: I kind of think this SOG thing is a myth. It is true some (if not all, I have a list at home) of the SGIs will output SOG. But I am convinced that all the machines I have will also offer H-sync and V-sync on certain pins. The SOG myth probably came up like this: People hooked up VGA displays to SGIs with SUN adapter cables. Since SUN 13W3 will output sync on different pins than SGI (and output composite sync) the display will not be able to synchronise on that. So a SOG capable display will resort to SOG as the only sync signal it gets where it expects it and hence only a SOG capable monitor will display something. However: If you have a proper SGI 13W3 to VGA cable I am convinced that also a non SOG display will do just fine. The above goes for Indigo and newer. I don't know about older systems. I totally agree that two displays at 1920 x 1200 might be too much and I need to do some math / ask ircombine.

@jan-jaap: That was my question. So what you are saying is: If the monitor can sync it and you have high-end cabling with as little connectors as possible a sharp 1920 x 1200 is possible. Good. Since the more common displays today tend to have 1920 x 1080 that would be a good option since it saves money and bandwidth.

@hamei: I totally agree. Most modern TFT should do 50Hz and 60Hz as a minimum. Since flicker is not an issue I might as well go for 50Hz to save bandwidth.

Has someone hooked up a 1600SW through a multilink adapter? That would be a nice option, too. Even if it's only 1600 x 1024. But it means 13W3 to VGA, VGA to DVI. So again not one single highend cable. I have never seen 13W3 to DVI (analog)...

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Sorry to hear that. I wish you all the best.

If you need space for interim storage I can offer you some room in my basement in Brussels. I expect to stay here for at least another two years, so if you need a place to "park" your stuff until you have sorted things out I will be happy to help.
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smj you are the man!

Great stuff thank you very much.
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