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Japan tsunami and earthquake 2011 - Page 1

i just read up on this

are you japanese / japan-based members ok?

that was a hell of a shake: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ma ... e-coverage

(condolences to the unlucky ones)
Surprised it took this long to make the forums.
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SAQ wrote: Surprised it took this long to make the forums.


I had thought about posting it within two hours of it happening.. The Australian government sponsored national TV network immediately dropped all regular programming and went to a direct feed of NHK/English..

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/12_01.html?play
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/

From the coverage within an hour of the quake I knew two Australian members of parlement on a junket were stuck on a bullet train.

385 dead was the last report I saw.

They ware worried about nuclear power plants now
http://www.news.com.au/world/magnitude- ... 6019903430


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I am praying that they can fix the nuclear power plant - and If not, that at least the containment will prevail. :(
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Tsunami AND quake was terrible enough - please no nuclear desaster
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f***!! it is exploded :x
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Geoman wrote: f***!! it is exploded :x


Apparently they don't use heavy water reactors , so it is not as bad as a Chernobyl type event... Still pretty worrying. But then just going on what I am reading about it...


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I have a friend in one of the affected prefectures. No word yet. It's bad, really bad. Best wishes to anyone out there, hope you make it just fine! We get earthquakes in Afghanistan, but never like that. Magnitude 8, I wish that upon no-one.
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At our company we had about 40 people in japan, nobody missing. So many contradictory reports about missing, and dead people. It's impossible to wrap your head around it.
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Geoman wrote: f***!! it is exploded :x

I remember worrying about that place when they first mentioned they ahd cooling problems and thought thit was going to all be okay in a day.
Of course, it exploding was the first thing I wake up to this morning....
Hopefully that is the climax of the situation there.

I know people in a suburb of Tokyo however while I have not heard if they are alright yet, I would assume they are all fine as they were still quite far.
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PymbleSoftware wrote:
Geoman wrote: f***!! it is exploded :x


Apparently they don't use heavy water reactors , so it is not as bad as a Chernobyl type event... Still pretty worrying. But then just going on what I am reading about it...


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??? Chernobyl was RBMK gas-cooled graphite moderated reactors, probably leveraged from Pu-production reactors. Heavy water/light water doesn't make a difference, really.

I'm glad they weren't gas or sodium-cooled (sodium cooled for obvious reasons: leak+flooding=very bad problem, considering that the sodium is usually radioactive, and gas because the fuel cladding is usually not as good as is in place at a water-cooled reactor).
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SAQ wrote:
PymbleSoftware wrote:
Geoman wrote: f***!! it is exploded :x


Apparently they don't use heavy water reactors , so it is not as bad as a Chernobyl type event... Still pretty worrying. But then just going on what I am reading about it...


R.


??? Chernobyl was RBMK gas-cooled graphite moderated reactors, probably leveraged from Pu-production reactors. Heavy water/light water doesn't make a difference, really.

I'm glad they weren't gas or sodium-cooled (sodium cooled for obvious reasons: leak+flooding=very bad problem, considering that the sodium is usually radioactive, and gas because the fuel cladding is usually not as good as is in place at a water-cooled reactor).


I was just parroting something I read in a newspaper along the lines of "fortunately they don't use heavy water so a Chernobyl like event is unlikely".. Seems I was misinformed.

Edit: I can't find the news article that referenced the light water/heavy water "expert" comment, however..

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/threemetre-tsunami-heading-for-disaster-zone-new-quake-shakes-japan-as-battle-waged-against-nuclear-meltdown-20110313-1bt30.html wrote: Experts noted, however, that even a complete meltdown would probably be far less severe than the 1986 disaster at Chernobyl, where a reactor exploded and sent a cloud of radiation over much of Europe. That reactor, unlike the ones in Fukushima, was not housed in a sealed container.


I think that the newspaper is pro-nuclear even though Australia only has one reactor (for nuclear medicine and university research)..

Short interview with a Russian scientist on Chernobyl vs Japan..
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2011/s3164026.htm


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Seems the subject of this thread is no longer of primary importance, considering a major nuclear catastrophe is about to happen any time soon. When will people learn? Probably never...
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personally i'm panicked since i can't reach a very good friend

thank god the crazy rocknroller chimed in today, though he's not that close

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Oskar45 wrote: Seems the subject of this thread is no longer of primary importance, considering a major nuclear catastrophe is about to happen any time soon. When will people learn? Probably never...



I think the Japanese are resilient and I expect a strong resolve.

Japan has almost no natural resources, nuclear power makes up 30% of it power sources... and the Chinese are still planning and building new nuclear plants.

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so i managed to get hold of my friends (that doesn't say much though with so many people involved) and they confirmed that half of the cell phones were not (some still do not) working due to the disaster (and also the fact that everyone was trying to call everyone else)

(sounds hopeful if you're still looking to reach nears+dears)

i just found a visual reference of what happened: part 1 , part 2
fu wrote: so i managed to get hold of my friends (that doesn't say much though with so many people involved) and they confirmed that half of the cell phones were not (some still do not) working due to the disaster (and also the fact that everyone was trying to call everyone else)

(sounds hopeful if you're still looking to reach nears+dears)

i just found a visual reference of what happened: part 1 , part 2

Considerating Fukushima's situation, whether or not half of Japan's cell phones were working is of no importance. Either way, these people have a major problem. How long will it take for the radioactivity to reach the West Coast?
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Oskar45 wrote: Considerating Fukushima's situation, whether or not half of Japan's cell phones were working is of no importance. Either way, these people have a major problem. How long will it take for the radioactivity to reach the West Coast?


It's already there to some degree
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Oskar45 wrote:
fu wrote: so i managed to get hold of my friends (that doesn't say much though with so many people involved) and they confirmed that half of the cell phones were not (some still do not) working due to the disaster (and also the fact that everyone was trying to call everyone else)

(sounds hopeful if you're still looking to reach nears+dears)

i just found a visual reference of what happened: part 1 , part 2

Considerating Fukushima's situation, whether or not half of Japan's cell phones were working is of no importance. Either way, these people have a major problem. How long will it take for the radioactivity to reach the West Coast?



fake or not.... http://singularityhub.com/2011/03/24/ja ... ia-and-us/

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There was a really good report all about the quake on Channel 4 last week here in the UK.
I recommend it to anyone.

Also just to put some sanity into the nuclear issue:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/25 ... ng_debunk/

Everyone needs to stop worrying about the reactor and worry about the people who are missing or have no homes.

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And as a small addition:
Radiation levels away from the reactor buildings themselves appear to be dropping as of the early hours this morning UK time. Japan's nuclear regulators reported as of the early hours this morning (17th March) that readings at the plant gates had dropped from 0.7 millisievert/hour to 0.3 over the previous 12 hours: workers would be able to endure such levels for months if required, as these hourly doses are equivalent to those sustained by everyone on Earth from background radiation every few weeks.


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