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I found this article while doing a search. This guy's pretty impressed by his free Fuel.

http://triosdevelopers.com/jason.eckert/blog/Entries/2013/11/28_Impressed_by_a_10_year_old_desktop_computer.html

R14000 600MHz is roughly comparable to a 2.4GHz Intel CPU

This guy is saying bullshit.

Vladio wrote: This guy's pretty impressed by his free Fuel.

Sounded innarestin' ...

woops, looks like I took a wrong turn and ended up off-course ...

nongrato wrote:

R14000 600MHz is roughly comparable to a 2.4GHz Intel CPU

This guy is saying bullshit.

Kinda. But an 800 mhz Fuel is about equal to a 2 ghz P-IV. Faster at some things, slower at others, but roughly equal.

I guess a P-IV is not exactly the top of the Intel lineup these days tho

P4 wasn't even the top of the lineup when it was new. When an architecture sucks so bad that the manufacturer decides to make a successor by taking the previous architecture and slapping a faster bus on it, that says a lot.

You may be thinking “600MHz CPU?” - but that CPU is totally badass because it is actually a MIPS CPU with a 5 stage core pipeline. Compared to a 20+ stage pipeline in Intel CPUs, it is roughly comparable to a 2.4GHz Intel CPU with just the pipeline alone. Add in the fact that the MIPS CPU architecture doesn’t have any baggage in it’s high-performance pipeline, and the end result is that it performs far faster than that!

uh? that's not even wrong...

So this is why that guy on 4chan's /g/ was going off saying that the SGI could outperform modern machines with some tasks .

pentium wrote: So this is why that guy on 4chan's ...

Where are you sending us, pent ?

4chan :

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(btw, if they are really trying to filter out pornography, they are doing an absolutely shit job of it ! But what can you expect from Mickey ? )

You don't need to go there hamei. You won't like what you see.

I think it might be right up hamei's alley, unfiltered smut and gore... well to some extent at least.

Rule of thumb for RISC has always been that it performs about as well as a twice-as-fast Intel CPU. So, a 600 MHz MIPS should rival a 1.2GHz Intel pentium whatever. And as others have mentioned there are gradations depending upon task specifics. I vividly remember how much faster MIPS was at mixed million line C, C++ and fortran compiles, compared to top shelf Intel running gcc/g++ under Linux in the late 90s. Sadly MIPS could not maintain that dominance as Intel was outspending them 100 to 1 in R&D. Owning 99 percent of the market, mediocre product nothwithstanding, has its benefits.

Pontus wrote: I think it might be right up hamei's alley, unfiltered smut and gore... well to some extent at least.

I'll have you know, hamei only likes tasteful smut. And no gore. God gave us skin so we wouldn't have to see all that yucky stuff inside

vishnu wrote: Sadly MIPS could not maintain that dominance as Intel was outspending them 100 to 1 in R&D.

That and the fact that SGI pretty much ended mainstream MIPS development after the R10000 came along due to Rick's Itanium dream.

If they'd continued to develop it properly, maybe it would have continued to hold its own for a few years longer.

Trippynet wrote: If they'd continued to develop it properly, maybe

It might happen in an alternative universe, had they taken the title of this package at all seriously, they would have had to be much cheaper than PC/intel, less than 10 years ago, we would have had to hold a very different debate, and now … we would not have had to argue on what we would have had if there was a R18K, an R20K … an R40K, because we would have seen … Irix v6.6.66 running on mips multi core , dual, quadri, octo core R40K

btw, the "new mips" live in MIPS32/MIPS64 multi core, products developed in china, while the new Octane3 wins a lot of cores by intel .

It's all Itanium 's fault

Everything's Itanium's fault, really.

yep, " the fallen-mips, because of the Rick's Itanium dream ", it sounds like a good movie, or a good theme for a " geek beer club ", called " the itanium haters ", you will get free ( dark, red, blonde, cool, warm , as your wishes) beers if you argue thesis about what would have had happened if that lord had been killed/banned/burned before he had success in the attempt to kill the mips at SGI

commodorejohn wrote: Everything's Itanium's fault, really.

They didn't just kill MIPS, they killed Alpha too. We've pretty much been stuck with x86 ever since and the person involved in making the deal with the devil now wants to be president.

Yep. HUZZAH FOR HOMOGENEITY AND MONOCULTURE.

(Then again, avoiding monoculture in processor architecture is only so much good when everybody insists on using Lunix as the base for everything so they can all run the exact same software with the exact same vulnerabilities...Heartbleed, anyone?)

commodorejohn wrote: Yep. HUZZAH FOR HOMOGENEITY AND MONOCULTURE.

(Then again, avoiding monoculture in processor architecture is only so much good when everybody insists on using Lunix as the base for everything so they can all run the exact same software with the exact same vulnerabilities...Heartbleed, anyone?)

Lunix Lol. It is annoying how it has come to dominate, that's for sure.

commodorejohn wrote: everybody insists on using Lunix as the base for everything so they can all run the exact same software with the exact same vulnerabilities

yes, but I mean no, oh well, I just want to have my geek beer club

commodorejohn wrote: using Lunix with the exact same vulnerabilities...Heartbleed, anyone?)

"Heartbleed" has nothing to do with the Linux kernel.