The collected works of mia - Page 9

webweave wrote: I worked with Barco software and hardware at a few different companies. It was always client/server with the server being huge DEC VMS refrigerator sized multiprocessor giants and the clients being SGI workstations with special video cards and accelerator cards and huge beautiful Barco monitors. I'll dig up some photos if anyone wants to see. Sometimes the files were stored on yet another server often a huge AIX machine. We also used a NeXT cube with a huge gray scale monitor only to preview PostScript images, it had no other function in the shop.

When you started work you would log into the server and push X for the application you want to run. These were rock solid systems and did amazing work. The vector art system we used was developed for GIS data and had no problems dealing with the huge documents we were working on. Macs would crash trying to open them.

I really enjoyed working in these high end environments and got out just as windows was starting to appear there.


Wow, please share some pictures.
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I have, don't set your hopes too high, some static binaries will work.
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Allow me a question, why would you run Genera on a mac as opposed to OpenGenera (Genera 8.4) either on alpha or snap4/snap5; please educate me, wouldn't this be a preferable configuration?
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ClassicHasClass wrote: Does OpenGenera run on the 164LX?


I believe it would run on anything that can run Digital Unix 4.0 (including emulators running Digital Unix 4.0). There are hacks to run it on linux/x86 or x86_64 and perhaps other platforms. There are videos floating around of people running it on modern laptops, hence, certainly not alpha.

Can MacIvory genera binaries run on OpenGenera?
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I wish someone had documented how to configure opengenera, it's not really trivial.
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nice, looking forward to see how that works for you.
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I saw on the opengenera cdrom a few languages (fortran, c, basic, etc.) certainly those do not produce lisp as output.
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I seem to recall there's a MicroExplorer emulator?
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I found this pretty useful:

OpenGenera Site Setup and First Steps


I'm going to give it a shot.
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I've done worse.
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why wouldn't you run opengenera really?
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It's been 2 years since I originally posted this, that little multia is still kicking, better uptime than Azure, AWS, Google and Facebook combined!
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Or even with simh, it's nice to have access to an openvms system, at least for the versioned filesystem; I use it to handle my documents and notes; most people would use git for this, but I don't mind the versioned filesystem for that; it makes it simple.
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Does anyone has a link to the tarball referenced there:

http://web.archive.org/web/201303160951 ... c_graphics

and used to be published at the following link:

http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/download ... .sparc.tar

Thanks
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many thanks, could you do bash, bzip2, gnu tar, vim and gcc+gmake?
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gcc wont be easy, are you compiling everything with ccc?
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thanks!
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thanks, I had not noticed, I curl'd it.
Would sudo be a reasonable request; there are a few binaries around, but I'm not certain they are trustworthy.
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didn't they even port ccc to linux?
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jealous
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The versions of openssl+openssh you have ported are relatively old, is it because the new ones didin't compile?
I have a project that runs on tru64, we can talk about this offline if you want.
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openssl: oh right, I didn't know the 0.9 branch was still supported.
openssh: please do.
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danke!
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great, many thanks.
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oh man, this is great, I wanted this one, but due to the dependencies, I was hesitant to ask.
I still think bash would be cool though; or pretty much any advanced shell (zsh, etc.); but most importantly, a window manager that doesn't suck; CDE is way to big, twm is "okay", mwm is getting old.
I'm thinking dwm/blackbox/openbox or something like that; small is good; dwm+dmenu from suckless.org might be simple.
extra points for: lynx, links2, rsync and perl and emacs (one can dream).
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> did you try my zsh
Damn, I had not noticed it!

>> extra points for: lynx, links2, rsync and perl and emacs (one can dream).
>... these sound good :-)

Many thanks, that's really essential; and I believe reasonable.
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Foetz, could you explain how to install and setup sshd using the packages you have provided?

Note #1
It seems that curl (RACCURLBASE740) depends on RACSSLBASE098 but openssl_098zg.tar only registers:
RACSSLBASE198 installed OpenSSL 0.9.8zg
perhaps openssl 0.9.8zg should register RACSSLBASE098 instead of 198?
But, it works fine with openssl_098ze.tar

Note #2
svn (RACSVN155) requires RACICONVALL11 but libiconv installs RACICONVBASE112

Note #3
the latest sudo (1.8.14p3) compiles and run fine, but I had to replace EOVERFLOW with ERANGE.
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ClassicHasClass,

This is what I get on my alpha:

bollix> genera -network bollix
genera (POST): OK 166667 993
genera: Unable to allocate trace buffer
Not enough space
bollix> genera -network
"bollix;mask=255.255.255.0;gateway=outside"
genera (POST): OK 166666 993
genera: Unable to allocate trace buffer
Not enough space

Do you know what could cause this?
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Thanks foetz; yeah, a quick howto for the latest sshd you have provided would be great; I don't want to do the wrong thing and screw up my tru64 installation; no need to get into details; also, if you have the time you should package screen with the screen terminfo files (probably in /usr/share/lib/terminfo/s/).

Thanks!
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Good point, those issues dissapeared with 8.18; while they were present with the stock binary.

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So I was able to "save world" and access nfs; this is my /etc/exports:
/ -root=0 -rw=sea-cpu-006:sea-cpu-007
/usr -root=0 -rw=sea-cpu-006:sea-cpu-007

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I don't have the original cdrom, just a tarball; but I did install it (setld -i .); setup nfs, according to what I posted earlier, setup packetfilter in kernel, then created the devices; compiled sudo (so I don't have to run it as root); setup my .VLM and I think that's it. Of course, I'm using the 8.18 binariy; not the stock one.

I have sys.sct copied in /var/lib/symbolics; I changed directories permissions to 755 and files to 644. I think that's all that was requested; and as you see in the telnet session; I can compile a file; therefore use the nfs in write mode; of course I was able to define site and save world.

Note: the "vm" settings are useless on tru64; only good for digital unix.
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yeah.
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was that helpful? Did it work?
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well, priorities man; you can get a master's degree anyday, but this is the real deal.
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I tried to run this on tru64, but couldn't get anything useful out of it:

http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/

Somehow it seems like a good solution as Tru64 has Xnest built in; it starts well, but doesn't open port 5901; not sure why.

I'm shoping for alternative solutions, let me know if you can think of anything... supposedly tightvnc might work?
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foetz, I'm missing the termcap files for the screen binary you compiled, can I simply use the ones from a linux system?
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actually, termcap and, most importantly, terminfo.
"Cannot find terminfo entry for 'screen'." when TERM=screen
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actually x11vnc works great for me in the end; it's not the fastest but it does the job.
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This is great, many thanks.
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