Getting Started, Documentation, Tips & Tricks

i am really new to all this connecivity--i sort of really only know the words and the concepts
i have read till my eyes are red on all this and am now against a wall

all i want to do is get a file from one machine into my octane
the are both plugged into a router and i can ping both ip

one machine called mac ( my machintosh) has a ip of 192.168.1.100
my sgi is called octane with ip --will get it again--excuse this line and data

my mac has a shared flder whre anyone can red write it is called shared

why an i getting error commnd not found on my sgi

loged in on sgi as root

ftp://192.168.1.101--command not found (using consil on sgi)
i appreciate all your help
peter

You need a ftp-server running on the machine you want to connect to.
So, if you want to connect to the Mac, there must be a ftp-server
running on the Mac.

If the ftp-server is running, open a shell on the SGI and type "ftp 192.168.1.100"
(without the quotation marks).
Then the ftp-client of the SGI connects to the ftp-server on the Mac.
Type in your username and password.

P.S. It's probably easier to run the ftp-server on the SGI than on the Mac and
use "FileZilla" as the Mac-client program.
I use a network storage disk (that's a simple external disk with an ethernet port)
as an ftp-server.

ftp problem getting much better now

ok
i am now connected--fantastic
now for the next problem

it is asking me foruser and pw
i enter roberta illaboo
get need to login

what do i type to enter user and illaboo
also
i assume when i am in my mac
i can somehow browse to the directory where my data is
and find the file
then what?

i now this is basic but i really do not know--i have read a lot but missed the crucial need to have a ftp server runnning on machine

tia
peter
ps you have given me encouragement that i just might be able to do what i purchased all my sgi stuff
thanks
again

ok heres what now happens
i ftp to my mac

we are connected
i press enter
and i get password required for root--i assume it is the pw for admin on mac
but i cannot type anything in terminal window on sgi
little green box but even with curser in dialog i cannot type
what am i missing
tia
peter

It doesn't show you the password, it's a security feature.

A basic HOWTO on the subject might be useful:

http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/FTP.html

When you get "command not found" it's usually a mistype (in your case the :// instead of space, so the system was looking for a command called "ftp://192.168.1.101" when the command is called "ftp"), or your PATH variable isn't set up the way you think it is, so the system isn't checking the directory where the binary is (or it isn't there period).

with all your help i got my file on my sgi--very very happy about this--took over 2 months to get to this point
now to get it installed on sgi

reading up on it

i was under the impression that irix sofware manager would install it but fill is in tar format
once again
i really appreciate all of your help
peter

The tar file is an SGI executable that you want to install on your Octane? Presuming it was tarred relative to the root of the filesystem on which it was compiled, you can

mv filename.tar /

cd /

tar -xf filename.tar

Now, presuming that the tarball deposited the binary into a directory that's in your $PATH, you can just type the binary file's name into a shell and the program will run.

Of course, it's not installed on your system in the sense that the software manager knows anything about it (esp. how to uninstall it!), but you can at least run the program...

I suggest you do "tar -tf filename.tar" first to see what's in the file before you blat it over the root of your machine.

what i am trying to do is install blender for irix
i have downloaded and it is now on my octane

reading the howtos--mainly for unix and doing homework on irix software manager
i have not untarred ( i like that work seems better than uncompress!) the tar file yet as i need a little more advice
i had assumed that irix software manager would take care of installing the program ( as root)--
anyway im making major progress learning octane and relearning unix/irix
i appreciate all your help and guidance on this
tia
peter

The question is what have you downloaded?

If its the source, you need to unpack and build it.

If its a tar file, what does it contain? If it contains the program, then untar in the appropriate subdirectory. If its a set of strange files with some ending with *.sw then it's likely to be a tardist, unpack into a directory and use the sw manager to install.

Post the listing of the tar file as suggested using "tar -tf".

Compression and tarring are two entirely different things. A tar file is a way of archiving multiple files together, compress is a way of making any file occupy less room. ZIP is one mechanism that combines the two.

Rats, I was going to recommend you get the nekoware version of blender. For Irix, the software package system produces what they call "tardists." Those are all the pieces a program needs to work properly in a package designed to install easily using software manager. On the front page of nekochan are links to "nekoware" which is full of tardists. Tardists install by drag-n-drop if you like, very easy. If you are looking for something, look in nekoware first.

Sorry this won't help you with blender - I coulda sworn there was a nekoware blender ? but at least with other stuff, make nekoware your first search area.

super thanks
peter

found some other stuff i can play with including blender
now how do i install them on octane
drag and drop where?

i assume logged on as root
find the file drag it where?
i assume i then click on the file and it will run?

really appreciate your help here--im still stumbling and learning octane and irix

once again thanks
peter

Learning IRIX will be a safer proposition if you create <and work from within> a user account.

what I do is *mount* a shared folder of my mac into the SGI, I never got that FTP thing to work.

go to mac´s general settings / sharing . Allow file sharing so the mac´s default public folder under your account will be automatic shared.

at the SGI:

mount MACIP:/fullpath name of the mac shared folder /mnt folder in the SGI

ex:

I do all my installations over network using that.

if you have a large HDD in your SGI, there´s a program "irixconnect" that mounts a SGI folder in your MAC with just a few clicks.