Miscellaneous Operating Systems/Hardware

I've found something this morning : a curious project to make a window manager that's like Irix.

Here's where i got this information :

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2740

Here's the site of the project :

http://www.5dwm.org/

Anybody have the program, and have the possibility of the dispose to me for download?

http://maxxdesktop.com/

Same project. Its unfortunately Linux only and blows chunks

TeamBlackFox wrote: http://maxxdesktop.com/

Same project. Its unfortunately Linux only and blows chunks

Ha ha, don't mind TBF he's our local "anything licensed under the GPL blows chunks" advocate.

I had serious issues with its motif libraries so I stopped using it, but I'm a motif developer so anyone who's not going to use it for compiling motif applications it would probably be okay. It's by no means a finished product and the developer, Eric Masson, is apparently the only person SGI is allowing to have access to the source code, so it's a one-person project and he's really busy with other stuff in life so the project has been pretty much stalled where it is for many years.

according to the homepage: "(Feb-2015) * The official DR4 release is cancelled"
which means?

While it is true I dont like GPL software, I was more referring to the fact that 5dwm/MaxxDesktop is a poor representative of what 4DWM can do. I use GPL software but I wish to one day go without it.

foetz wrote: according to the homepage: "(Feb-2015) * The official DR4 release is cancelled"
which means?

It says that on maxxdesktop.com? Because I'm not seeing it anywhere, or finding it using the search button.Link! Please...

TeamBlackFox wrote: While it is true I dont like GPL software, I was more referring to the fact that 5dwm/MaxxDesktop is a poor representative of what 4DWM can do. I use GPL software but I wish to one day go without it.

I would say I don't like the license. I don't think the authors of end-user software should use it. By which I mean software that's not part of the GNU system itself. As I keep pointing out, all the whining about non-free is just another way of saying "I'm not good enough to write what you guys can write, so you have to show me yours!" The BSD guys were right; if you want your software to be used by as many people as possible, you have to use an unrestricted license. FreeBSD is in use on millions of computers running OSX by people who would never in million years choose to use FreeBSD by itself. And to me that would be the biggest satisfaction, more users, not "give me back your changes you scurvy knaves! I know I can never write anything as good as that!"

Huh? this project does not use the GPL, or has anything to do with it. Why bring it up?

R-ten-K wrote: Huh? this project does not use the GPL, or has anything to do with it. Why bring it up?

Why not bring it up? When you're reviving 12 year old threads, the gloves are off - anything goes!

vishnu wrote:

foetz wrote: according to the homepage: "(Feb-2015) * The official DR4 release is cancelled"
which means?

It says that on maxxdesktop.com? Because I'm not seeing it anywhere, or finding it using the search button.Link! Please...

oh you don't believe me
there: http://dev.maxxdesktop.com/trac/maxxdesktop

Here is the citation from the http://dev.maxxdesktop.com/trac/maxxdesktop

<<
News

* Due to the high demand, we are considering building a BETA-1 with limited Linux distribution support. It will be supporting the latest versions of our favorite APIs. email us for more details. (Feb-2015) * The official DR4 release is cancelled.

* Incremental DR4 components will be made available for testing starting this weekend (Jun 04 2010)
>>

In my opinion, the news section is just slightly bad formatted and should be read in this order:

The latest news are: * Due to the high demand, we are considering building a BETA-1 with limited Linux distribution support. It will be supporting the latest versions of our favorite APIs. email us for more details. (Feb-2015)
The middle news are: * The official DR4 release is cancelled.
The oldest news are: * Incremental DR4 components will be made available for testing starting this weekend (Jun 04 2010)

ah yeah so you think the dp4 was axed in favor of the beta1?

foetz wrote: ah yeah so you think the dp4 was axed in favor of the beta1?

FWIW (not much), that is how I interpreted the sentence. The project has not exactly maintained a strict release schedule, so I just check in over there every now and then. If there's something new, then great, but I don't lose any sleep over it if there's not.

Old man comment of the day: "There was a time when dp, beta, and production all meant different things."

josehill wrote: "There was a time when dp, beta, and production all meant different things."

good point

"Due to the high demand" ??? He's got to be kidding...