fu wrote:
reading this thread again ...
I don't think I am going to top that
Would just like to mention that the "chinesification" of which fu speaks is yet another fraud. In fact, Chinese people work eleven months, get paid for twelve months plus a one-month's bonus then get three weeks a year off, paid. They get one month severance pay for every year worked - not worked "for that company" but
worked
, if you lay them off. Once past the probationary period (generally 90 days) It is close to impossible to fire a Chinese worker. They get all the "entitlements" that the US is so busy claiming are financially impossible to support. Living costs are more than reasonable - outside of a few big cities, housing is flat-out cheap. Women get six months paid maternity leave and they *all* get pregnant once. And then, it takes about four Chinese workers to do as much as a single person of a different nationality. They do not work hard. Nor are they very capable. If you need someone to put Bean A into Slot B all day, fine. But if need someone who can think for themself, you will search long and hard. If one enacted Chinese labor law into the US, the plutocrats would have a heart attack.
(And when HR gets totally out of hand, the factory workers go over to HR's house and burn it to the ground. With HR and HR's family inside. Fact. We don't fuck around here. Or they mess around with the workers too much, the workers block off the highway, kill policemen, smash cars, burn buildings, have a Detroit-size riot. Happens all over China, every year. You don't hear about
that
in the western press, either.)
Of course people and companies vary from place to place but ... anywhere north of Guangdong, there will be "issues" with Chinese factories. And even in Guangdong, a good place will be sort of like what you saw in the US in 1962.
Not criticizing Chinese factories here - what the heck, I've spent twenty years in them now and I like them and the people - but the crap they feed people in the western press is just so much horseshit. "Globalization" has to do with people who want no responsibilities and no restraints. The economic reasons are limited to "how can three people get wealthy beyond belief ?" not "how can we compete ?" Companies do not compete. They have not "competed" for decades. "I don't make. I own."
If you are a company that makes widgets in the US then you have property, workers, capital equipment, inventory, raw materials, scheduling, responsibility. This is not an easy job.
If your company is "global" then all you do is wail into the phone " I need 600 more doodads ! Tomorrow ! For three bucks ! No, make that a buck fifty !" and someone
else
has to deal with the hard part. Then if the doodads don't sell as well as you'd like, you just fuck over the supplier and don't take his inventory of 5,000 doodads which you are contractually obligated to purchase. If you are a global company, contracts are just pieces of paper, good for wiping the ass. Crocs, 70 million bucks, don't pay. "Oh. Sorry. Maybe next year." Sorry my ass. If things go really south and one of those pesky little-people companies tries to press the issue you can always declare bankruptcy, sell off the good parts to your friends cheap while you shit on the creditors. Hostess, Atari, SGI, a cast of thousands. Bankruptcy courts are fine with that.
Hahvud Business School Advanced Business Concepts. You guys just
don't understand
how business really works ! *
*If you assume that the people at the top are cheating you, then you do in fact understand
exactly
"how business works." If we let these assbreaths run the world we'll get the world we've got.