The collected works of henrik2008 - Page 1

Hello, long time since i visited nekochan.

I need some help installing blender on my sgi computer.

By the way, i found an easier way to share my irix files from a mac mini to sgi machines.

To share files from mac mini ( lion osx), i just used the build in ftp service, which has to be enabled via shell commands ( apple did removed the easy graphical ftp userinterface!).

one's that has been done, just hook up mac mini and indy r5000 , or indigo2 r4400 to the
network.

in irix (6.5.23), i just did go to the netscape browser and typed in my mac mini ip, like
this http://192.168.0.33/~mymacmini/

after that, all my irix files is easy accessible via the ftp, which i can download any files from irix.

Here is my question anyway.


1: I just downloaded blender irix version on blender.org website. ( i should be version 2.6 ?!).

On blender.org, it says , for installing blender, just launch unix shell and type ./blender

On the website it allso say something about "starting or running x ". ???, properly they mean x-window!.
x-window is allready loaded, i
asume , when starting and login into the desktop / toolchest etc ?.

Ofcourse , when i downloaded the file , i did extracted the by right clicking on blender and did extract the file from file menu.

Next thing is to, type ./blender as i did.

but i get errors, file not found, maybe because i forgot to change dir to /usr ?.

i did change the dir by typing
cd /usr (i think it was!).
cant remember unix shell commands. ( used to play around unix shell command long time ago!).

When finally irix found the file,
i tried again with ./blender ,
now it complains with the following error like: permission denied.

I cant remember how to change the permission in a file, but i remember its something like cmod 777!.
There is allso a file permission thing in irix, which you can change the permission for the file.

Can anyone here help me or guide me step by step, how to
install blender on my sgi machine?.

I think the blender file i downloaded is allready compiled version?.

Sorry, more question,


2: I would like to get softimage 3d 3.7 or 4.0 and maya 6.5,
but can my sgi machines handle softimage and maya well ?

I think my machines graphics card dosent support texture, but what does it mean, if the graphics card doesent support texture, is it relateted to realtime hardware texture framebuffer ( or whatever its called!), is missing, which mean that the graphics cant display realtime 3d graphics with texture ?.
If you're using softimage creating a 3d model with texture and render it static as a jpg picture or avi animation, shurely the texture will be rendered, because the rendered texture is created by the software ?.



sgi computer hardware info:

Indy R5000 250 MB RAM, 4.5 HD, XL24 graphicsboard.

Indigo2 Impact r4400 with 4 gb hd, solid impact graphics board, 200 mb ram.
exactly!

ps. writing on iphone hope the iphone
dosent mess up my text!.

thank for answering my question related to
hardware texture / graphics!.

Hope someone would explain how to install
blender!.
Sorry, similar question regarding installing blender,
has been posted in this forum by a user, just found the post / thread!.

now i am gonna do a bit resarch, how to install
blender!.
chears.
Sorry not answering back, i am visiting some
freinds , away from my home.
when i get back i will check the blender version.
I think it was something like 2.49a ?!, i think.
found it ,googling the internet!.

I've get back to you today with more answer!.
have'nt got time to install blender on irix yet!.
henrik.
just got home!.

anyway its version 2.49a from blender.org
website, you can still grap the file!.
here is the link:

http://download.blender.org/release/Blender2.49a/

and the link to the post related to installing
blender on irix. ( nekochan forum!).


viewtopic.php?f=11&t=16723365

chears.
the blender file for irix on blender.org is
"blender-2.49a-irix-6.5-mips-py2.5.tar.gz"
you properly know that!.
sucess installing blender, works perfect on
my sgi indy r5000 computer!.
wow!.
Hi, have some question to ask.

Now that i have been playing
around with my sgi machine and figured out the most common task, like shell command , extracting tar files, installing blender, making network connection from mac mini to my two sgi computers etc, i am happy with every things works for me.
But the two sgi machine really needs more ram and a bigger scsi hdd, ram.

1: where can i get / buy new scsi hdd, scsi cdrom, ram ?.

The scsi hdd has to be 50 pin
connector cable, i think!.

what type of ram does two machine use ?.


hardware info:

1. sgi indy r5000, 320mb ram, 6 gb scsi hdd, solid impact graphicscard ( i think its the low end card?).
1. sgi indigo 2. r4400 , 200mb ram, 9 gb scsi hdd, solid impact graphicscard (low end graphicscard ?!).

Allso, i need to open those two machines and use a air can sprayer to clean the two computers for dust. ( i have a anti static wristband!).

i would allso like to change the background desktop picture, icon!).

later on, when i can afford it,
i would like to buy an octane 2, r12000 , 2 gb ram, 2gb scsi hdd, cdrom,odyssey pro v12 graphicscard, so i can playback full hd video 25 fps,
use the octane 2 for 3d realtime rendering with texture mapping.

but a used octane 2 is very expensive!.


henrik.
thank you.

it could be neat to have some kind adapter
to use a modern harddisk, like a sata hdd
and convert it to scsi hdd to fit inside
the indy or indigo2 computer, or maybe a older type of hdd ?!

I just saw a 36gb scsi ultra320 80pin on a website (90$), could
this harddisk work on my indy machine ?.

another hdd i saw in copenhagen, in a computer shop
was an scsi 80pin 18gb hdd, 10.000 rpm.


Is it diffcult to put the hdd inside those two
machines i own ( sgi indy r5000, indigo2 r4400!).
I dont hope i blow anything up?? or
damagde my sgi computers!.

i dont know how much irix 6.5.22 can regonize when we are talking about scsi hdd in terma of gigabyte ?!.




my os is irix 6.5.22
today i typed in ' hinv ' in the unix shell on my indy,
indy reported back my graphics was indy24,
dont know the spec of this graphicscard!.


There one thing i really dont understand, that is,
Softimage for irix i now old, why wont
autodesk give away softimage for irix free?.

I just wish it would happen, but it properly will
never happen!.

Yes i know , a stupid question!.
cant post in this forum, getting mysql errors all the time!!!
is there space for adding an exstra scsi hdd
both in indy and indigo2 machines ?.
what about indigo2 , i have the indigo2,
you know the big large cabinet. pink color
i think it is!.

Is there any space for putting an exstra
hdd inside this machine?.

i could buy 2 scsi ultrascsi 320 36gb
each, would these 2 hdd work in both
machine ?.
i can get 2 hdd for as much as less than
200$.

Do i need terminators for the hdd?.

atleast i need 2 80pin to 50 pin adapter!.

Properly i ask to much, but i have'nt done
anything to upgrade my 2 sgi machines,
now its time to do something to those
two machine, like upgrading and install a lit
of nekoware freeware!.

atleast i installed blender on indy, works
perfect, i never thought i would be able
to figure out irix or install software, but
now i have a small knowledge of those machines /
irix.

Its like xmas when things works on
the sgi machines, i am really so exited!.
next i visit nekochan, i could post detail
of a couple of scsi harddisk , and anyone
feel like to comment on my hdd detail , if it would
work or not, they are welcome.

I am not buying anything on ebay, i hear
lots of people get cheated like hell!.
ok, so i am gonna stick with scsi normal drives ( the newer one's!)
36gb should be more than enough for each
machine!.

i've buy them from a computer store next time!.
ok, but what is SCA ?.

Would "serial atached SCSI" hdd drives
work ?.

Maybe i can connect an external scsi drive to my
Indy or Indigo ? , cant remember if the external connection
on the backside of my indy or indigo2 is
80, 72 or 50 pins ?!.

I used to have an external scsi zip drive for my old
EMU ESI 3200 audio sampler, the zipdrive was
really slow! (EMU ESI only has builtin floppy disk
port for loading audio samples, sold it long time ago!).

Here is a list / links to a computer store called
Fønix, located in copenhagen denmark.

Maybe i can use these scsi hdd ?.

The website is in Danish, but it should be easy
to figure out was it says on the website,
i mean the specfication is in english!.


Link:



https://www.fcomputer.dk/hardware/hardd ... 6.4gb.html



https://www.fcomputer.dk/hardware/hardd ... 8.2gb.html



https://www.fcomputer.dk/hardware/hardd ... f5000.html

https://www.fcomputer.dk/hardware/hardd ... rddisk-3.5 ″-ultra320-scsi-72.8gb(2).html



https://www.fcomputer.dk/hardware/hardd ... 1-001.html


Which scsi hdd could i use in these links ?.
Thank you.
allright i will follow you advice and
make some research on the subject!.
I am not gonna spend a fortune on my
two sgi machines, because they are not
that good or fast.

I saw on a website from England, where
they sell all kind of accessories for sgi machine
etc, they even have plenty of octane machines i can
buy.
The cheapest octane 2 , single core r12000, 400 mhz
with odeessy v8 graphicscard , scsi hdd, cdrom
is around 500£ , thats a loy of money and
if you want a octane 2, dual r14000, 2gb ram,
odesssy v12 pro with every thing, it
will cost over 1000 £, pew!, thats to much!.
with an octane, its worth upgrading, because is
so "modern" and "fast".

I just dont have that kind of money now!.

Chears!.
If anyone can use these link for buying
sgi accessories , i found 2 website where
you can buy lots of sgi releated things etc...

links:

http://www.used-unix.com/acatalog/SGI_O ... tane2.html


http://www.mashek.com/SGIsystems/Octane2.php
I found two scsi terminator ( looks like a dongle
thing!, grey color!).
They came with my two sgi computers, when i bougt it!.
properly i can use those two 2 terminators?!.
Hi, bjorn!.

wow, thats a very powerfull computer!.

I am interested knowing how powerfull
this computer is !.

How powerfull is it ?.

Can it beat the new mac pro with
the Xeon E5 12 core processor ?.
i have'nt opened my 2 sgi machines yet,
so i guess the have internal termination?!.
the small square shaped grey colored termination
thing i have is external, i think!.

So i am not gonna terminate any thing, blow
any fuse!.
Hi, i own a mac g5 dualcore 1.8 ghz,
2.5 gb ram, 1tb sats hdd.

i used to have osx leopard 10.5.8, but
no more because i changed my hdd to
a new one!.

i dont have the install cd/dvd anymore,
lost it a few years ago!.

Allso i chanded the dvd drive (did'nt work
anymore!), to a new one ( pc dvd drive!).

I called Apple to ask how much it would cost
me to order a new osx 10.5.8 dvd,
Apple wants 200$!
Thats to much, when you think about how
cheap you can buy lion for aprox 25$,
which i ordered from Apple store for my
brand new mac mini.

I have been trying to get my old mac g5
up and running with no sucess (screen, mouse, hdd, dvd, graphicscard ok , psu
ok!).

I did install Yellow dog linux and ubuntu linux
10.04 ( cant remember version no),
but the installer freezing half way!.
Ubuntu installs perfect, but black screen
at login !.

Now i will try one more time, to install
newest ubuntu distro, hope it will work!.

I will be glad if i can get a used osx and
install it without any problems!.

otherwise i will properly buy an old
new mac g5 more powerfull.

I do own a lot of music software for mac
, bought offcourse!.
Leopard is "around" on the Internet, if you get my drift. But you'll need a dual-layer-capable DVD burner for it.


I know what you mean, but i'm afraid
i've get infected with virus, especially
pc virus.
I do own a brand new monster selfbuild
pc, which i bought pro music software
for over 4000$.

I'm using this pc for 3d programs and
creating / composing music!.

Offcourse i have norton 360.

I would be better of buying a used osx!.
I dont have any apple developher acount, but would
like to!.

the developher acount is for people doing
objective c, which i have'nt pick up yet,
only basic ( game creator dark basic pro),
plus c++ bla bla.
i've try connection a usb key with
os x 10.5.

osx tiger is to old.

I used to download alot of
free legal software for pc,
i had so many virus infection!.
no more!.

Even if i get a osx from internet, it could
contain virus, a pc virus, that could infect
my pc!. ( sometimes all computers are conected
in network!).

I just hate virus!.

otherwise i would mind getting osx
from anywhere, but i can't that, i am
not suppose to, moderators are wacthing
me!.
sorry, spell error " would'nt mind getting
osx" from anywhere".
To TeamBlackFox.

Sorry, yes i forgot. the mac i have only
accepts firewire external dvd for booting
osx - installs.


Even so, someone on the i internet reported
back, they had sucess booting osx 10.5 from a usb
key!), i dont know if thats the true!.
yes, you're right, but my software for
power mac , only accepts osx 10.5!.
spectrsonics omnisphere , which is a
very powerfull synthesizer plugin for
cubase, pro tools , needs 10.5!.
Actually some of the software i have,
support both windows 7, intel mac with lion
and leopard ppc!.
for me , its a win win situation, if you
can put it this way!.
i meant, its a win win situation, if
i get mac running with osx leopard,
and at the same time use my software
for power mac g5!.
ooh, i forgot!.

my mac g5 has 1tb sata hdd, which is
complety empty!.

There' nothing on it, not even a bootloader!.

Is it possible to insert ubuntu linux or
any other powerpc based linux distro's dvd,
and boot / install from the dvd ?.
Do i not need any sort of bootloader from
osx or similar things to be able to boot
from linux dvd ?.
believe me , its not worth it.
i saw a geniune osx leopard dvd used
for sale in the news paper for 25$.

i will not download torrent, set if
a keylogger installs and steels my
licensed dearly bought software, i would
kill my self, offcourse not literally!.
to be honsterly , lots of the torrent is filled
with crap, malware.
i would only get stressed downloading
from unknown sources.
I will have so much peace in my mind
paying those damn 200$ for the osx or
just a used osx.
There is to most on stake here.
If anyone gets happy doing torrent,
thats there problems!.
I just wont download torrent period!.
I forgot to say thank for you answer!.

Thank you for you answer!.

Anyway i did have a look at MorpOs
website, i did'nt anything about MorpOs
costing anything, so i guess its free!.
I've download the iso on my mac intel
and burn it with "disk utility" as iso,
with my mac superdrive burner.
I've then have a try booting from
the MorpOs and install.

Why ubuntu 10.04 wont display anything,
is properly because my powermac dosent
support the graphics, i believe its a
ati radeon 256mb!.

but there's a fix, which would work, i
thing?, by typing videooff in shell at
booting time!.
Let us know how morphos runs because I've looked into buying a g4 laptop to run it


Yes, i will look into it and see how it goes!.

I only want MorpOs and Ubuntu 14.04 or
Lubuntu to test and check hardware.
( believe me, i tried that couple of times, with
no sucess!!).

If it works , i've get a real osx leopard.
Now i remember, MorpOs is that
Amiga OS thing!.
There was or is, an alternative Amiga
OS called Atikos ( cant remember the
exact name of this OS!).
Atikos or whatever it is called is 100%
free and is allso for x86 architecture!.

Yesterday, i did downloaded MorpOs iso
and Lubuntu (power mac g4-g5 platform
version!).

I allready burnded the Iso's on
two dvd's.

Now , its time to test, if every things
works, later on!.

I've try to connect my mac usb superdrive,
to boot those two OS!.
I've allso try the internal drive , if
it works!.

I got a used "new" 1tb hdd and cdrom
for mac, which i will try later on!.
I dont't expect any thing to work,
maybe, its only OSX 10.5 , that will
work on this mac?!.
called up apple, to ask about osx leopard,
their responds is, they dont sale it, nor do
they have it!.

But there are other ways to get it!.
Yes, i mean Aros!.
Anyway i tried MorpOs and Lubuntu
changed the dvd drive and allso changed
the hdd with 1tb sata hdd ( western digital).
The hdd is connected to the bottom sata
cable , powe cable is allso connected offcourse!.
I did turned on the mac and did hold down
the "alt" while booting from internal drive
with lubuntu linux.
After a few seconds, a boot menu appears
showing lubuntu linux, did choose lubuntu
icon and the big arrow -->.
The lubuntu linux starts to boot, then
a command prompt appears,
did press enter.
Lubuntu is loading for a few minutes,
screen is showing, "found display adapter,
pci 0".
Then black screen appears, nothings
happens!.

I allso tried MorpOs, dosent even boot?!.

I dont think it is the graphics card, nor
dvd drive, psu or mouse or keyboard!.

Maybe it is the motherboard or ram?.

I did however tried ubuntu 10.04,
every things worked with installing ubuntu
10.04.

Only when ubuntu restarting and finish
reading OS, black screen at login!!!.

I really dont know whats wrong with this
old mac g5!.

I've try disassembling, to see if i can see
anything wrong with my mac!.
I dont even have any diagnostic hardware
software cd!.
I dont know, all my spare internal sata hdd's is
from 2008-2009!.
I think these hdd is sata 2, which properly
isn't compatible with mac g5 sata controller.
I think my g5 model is from 2005,
its the version called " new world".
I've have a look and check it out!.
Let me try another hdd from my old
pc!.

ps. i did set the jumper to "slave" on
the hdd!.
I'd verify the specific model number (i.e., there should be a code PowerMacXX,YY which precisely defines the hardware revision, usually accessible from System Profiler) and what graphics card you have.


But i cant do that!

No OSX on mac hdd drive, nothing!.
I'm more interested in installing ubuntu, perhaps
9.04!.

Yes, you are properly interest in knowing , how it
it goes with installing MorpOS, i've give it
one more try!.

I would like to try mintppc allso!.

On my old mac , there's two display connection,
one DVI and a ADC port!.

I wonder if, the default port is the ADC port ?.
Maybe , thats why ubuntu did'nt show
anything at start up, because maybe ubuntu
is using ADC port as default output to the
pc monitor?!.

I think i will connect the sata hdd drive to the
uppper drive bay, maybe it works?!.

Bloddy damn powermac!
It seems i cant really assemble the pieces to the puzzle, whats
wrong with this old power mac.

when i did install (which is now removed!)
ubuntu 10.04, it really started up perfect with
the login drum sound, meaning that every
things should work, on that the display was
black screen, but not when booting and actually
loading the OS!.

Are you shure, power mac dosent use
the ADC port as a default port for displaying
screen ?.

I really dont see any thing wrong with mac,
but it just wont let me install anything correctly!.
very strange!.

When i first had it, this old mac had osx 10.5.8
and every thing worked flawless.
That's why i dont believe for a second,
that there's any thing wrong with this mac!.
I've put every effort into fix this mac ,
no matter what.
Sorry, to many spell errors, damn iphone!.