SGI: Hardware

R8000 grief (what OS are you running on 'em?)

jan-jaap avatar
jan-jaap
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From Wijchen, The Netherlands
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Wrote the following at June 19, 2007, 5:24 a.m...
My IP21 (Dual R8000 Onyx) is giving me grief :(

As I understand, SGI made two families of R8000 systems : IP26 (Power Indigo2) and IP21 (Power Challenge/Onyx), and both are supported up to IRIX 6.5.22

Except 6.5.22, and probably 6.5.21 are broken on IP26 . Maybe even as far back as 6.5.18. I have reason to believe IP21 has similar problems .

I've had 6.5.14 running on it at some point and it worked. My IP26 runs IRIX 6.2 and is not affected.

So, my questions to those with R8000 systems: what OS are you running on them? Which is the last unaffected IRIX release? Is this issue fixed by a patch (that I would have to install when I install the OS)? Or maybe it's possible to run 6.5.22, as long as I use rqs binaries from an earlier, unaffected release?
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Wrote the following at June 19, 2007, 10:02 a.m...
jan-jaap wrote: So, my questions to those with R8000 systems: what OS are you running on them? Which is the last unaffected IRIX release? Is this issue fixed by a patch (that I would have to install when I install the OS)? Or maybe it's possible to run 6.5.22, as long as I use rqs binaries from an earlier, unaffected release?


I think my Power Indigo2 R8000 is currently at 6.5.11, but I'd have to power it up to be sure. I've never had a problem with it running. Let me check.
-ks

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joerg avatar
joerg
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Wrote the following at June 19, 2007, 12:56 p.m...
I used .22 on my power indigo2 with the rqs stuff from a .18 installation. After finding out that the machine was to slow for everthing i sold it on ebay :) .

With some older rqs stuff the systems works fine.

regards
Joerg
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DDT
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Wrote the following at June 19, 2007, 1:46 p.m...
jan-jaap wrote: 6.5.22, and probably 6.5.21 are broken on IP26 . Maybe even as far back as 6.5.18.
I've had 6.5.14 running on it at some point and it worked. My IP26 runs IRIX 6.2 and is not affected.


Acknowledged.
I am using 6.5.10 on my IP26 because trying to upgrade to 6.5.22 is impossible (as described in your link).
Anyway, I find 6.2 much faster on R8000... I would recommend keeping 6.2 if you don't need 6.5 extra features.
jan-jaap avatar
jan-jaap
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Wrote the following at June 19, 2007, 1:55 p.m...
I gave it another go with 6.5.22, and this time I included all relevant patches in the netinstall. That includes the rqs updates in patch 7009:

Code: Select all

1.3  Bugs_Fixed_by_Patch_SG0007009

This patch contains fixes for the following bugs in IRIX
6.5.x.  Bug numbers from Silicon Graphics bug tracking
system are included for reference.

o Rqsall buffer overrun bus error (Bug 932564).


Oops!

And this time it actually worked :D

Oh, the PowerIndigo2 (IP26) stays at IRIX 6.2. I want 6.5.22 on the PowerOnyx (IP21) because I mostly run it with a quad R10k and I don't want to have issues with the potentially different IO4/FDDI etc. flash versions required/expected by different OS revisions.

Thanks all!
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DDT avatar
DDT
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Wrote the following at June 20, 2007, 1:23 p.m...
Great !
I'll give it a try on the IP26 ;)
jan-jaap avatar
jan-jaap
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Wrote the following at June 21, 2007, 4:21 a.m...
DDT wrote: I'll give it a try on the IP26 ;)

The crucial part is that the patch is installed before the rqsall run at the end of the overlay installation. That way you're sure to use the rqs from the patch, not from the 6.5.22 overlays. Hence the network installation (install servers rule :D )

Also, I've tested this on IP21, not IP26 -- if you nuke it you're on your own.
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi
Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
DDT avatar
DDT
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Wrote the following at June 21, 2007, 2:18 p.m...
jan-jaap wrote:
DDT wrote: I'll give it a try on the IP26 ;)

The crucial part is that the patch is installed before the rqsall run at the end of the overlay installation. That way you're sure to use the rqs from the patch, not from the 6.5.22 overlays. Hence the network installation (install servers rule :D )

Also, I've tested this on IP21, not IP26 -- if you nuke it you're on your own.


Thanks for the hints.
No problem if it does not work, I have already nuked the machine about 3 times ;) .