Nekonomicon - SPARCBook 1 TADPOLE revival

jammaster
From France / Lyon
Who joined Nov. 6, 2015, 9:47 a.m.

Wrote the following at June 5, 2017, 5:24 a.m...

I lost my my mind (and my time) in trying to restore SOLARIS 1.0.1 (original cd) on this old "military" laptop.
I have a TFTP server configured on my sparcstation 20 (inetd configured), a tranceiver DB15/RJ45 on the SBook, a working switch.
WHen i restore from ethernet the minifs file coming from OEM CD, the transfer seem to be working (...loading) but FAILED at the end of transfer. (when trying to launching the file stored on the swap partion i presume).
Don't know, here, what to do...
TFTP config line problem? bad tranceiver? (all links are mounted on the switch).
The HDD is not the stock one. The partition table is created via the utility menu and seem to be correct.
...The last way will be to found a T338 // to scsi adapter for puting a cdrom on this capricious thing...

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jammaster
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Wrote the following at June 5, 2017, 7:03 a.m...

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computron
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Wrote the following at June 5, 2017, 10:13 a.m...

Nice !!!!

Cheers

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jammaster
From France / Lyon
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Wrote the following at June 5, 2017, 10:29 a.m...

^_^,

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astouffer
Who joined Jan. 29, 2011, 5:52 p.m.

Wrote the following at June 5, 2017, 5:20 p.m...

My octane had a similar problem when copying the miniroot over to the swap. It would always fail. I did a format of the hard drive and then it worked fine.

miod
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Wrote the following at June 5, 2017, 11:04 p.m...

Can you run tcpdump on the tftp server machine (tcpdump ether host <ethernet address of the tadpole machine>) to check that a tftp transfer really occurs?

If the transfer seems to go well but nothing happens after it seems completed, you might want to make the file unpadded by appending a few random bytes to it, in order for it no longer to be a multiple of 512 bytes. Some PROMs do not handle multiples of 512 bytes well in their tftp code...

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Wrote the following at June 6, 2017, 1:10 a.m...

Nice piece of kit, jammaster. Hope you get it running fine!

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jammaster
From France / Lyon
Who joined Nov. 6, 2015, 9:47 a.m.

Wrote the following at June 6, 2017, 1:51 p.m...

Thk Hakimoto ^_^,

Miod, you save my life...But...

TFTP work with 128b and 512b blocks...
the minifs binary is not a multiple of 512.
I have edited on x86 machine the binary provides on the oem restoration CD (!!!) and filled the end of file with 00 to ensure a good size.

Before all of that, i have sniffed the ethernet traffic to see the activity between my 2 IPs (SparcStation 20 and SparcBook).
The last TFTP blocks are 189b lengh and of course (!) retried !!! first parts are 512b lengh.
God, thank to this sniffer...

So, the transfer via the "ethernet restore" on tadpole is successfully ... (transfer DONE !!! god) ...
But after...

NOTHING!

I must see a restore menu/options ... But here ... NOTHING
DAMN!

this machine will learn the parachute jump ... without parachute =_=,

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jammaster
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Wrote the following at June 6, 2017, 1:52 p.m...

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miod
From Clermont-Ferrand (France)
Who joined Oct. 9, 2009, 2:44 a.m.

Wrote the following at June 6, 2017, 11:07 p.m...

jammaster wrote: So, the transfer via the "ethernet restore" on tadpole is successfully ... (transfer DONE !!! god) ...
But after...

NOTHING!

I must see a restore menu/options ... But here ... NOTHING
DAMN!

Now that you have transferred the recovery image to the swap partition, you need to boot off it. Have you tried to boot it afterwards?

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jammaster
From France / Lyon
Who joined Nov. 6, 2015, 9:47 a.m.

Wrote the following at June 7, 2017, 3:15 p.m...

yes, i have try "boot alternate file" where ou need to specify the hd, the partition and the file.
I have try:
- 0 0 (main part) minifs
- 0 1 (swap part) minifs
- 0 2 (?) minifs
- 0 3 (user part) minifs

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Intergraph TDZ2000 GL2 4110GT 1GB 2x600Mhz ... HP Visualize X-Class FX10 4GB 2x1000Mhz ... IBM 5160 V20, 8087 30Mb ... IBM 5162 10Mhz, 287XL, 6Mb, ST-4096 ... APPLE PowerMAC 9600/300 ... APPLE Quadra 840AV ... APPLE PowerMAC G5 Quad ... DEC AlphaStation 255/300 PS40 ... DEC AlphaStation 500/333 PS51 ... IBM RS/6000 PowerStation 7012-320 + GT3i ... SUN SparcStation 20 256MB AG10-E 2xSM81 ... SUN Ultra 80 4x450Mhz ... Amiga 2000HD, ECS 2MB ... Intergraph InterPro 225 ... DEC AlphaServer 4100 4x533Mhz 2MB ... SUN V880 ... DEC Multia 233Mhz

kjaer
From Seattle, WA
Who joined May 7, 2008, 7:47 p.m.

Wrote the following at June 7, 2017, 4:28 p.m...

If "minifs" contains a miniroot filesystem, which you have written to partition 1, I rate it unlikely that the name of the file within that miniroot filesystem which contains the kernel you are meant to boot is also "minifs". it may be called 'munix' though. have a look at minifs in a hex editor, you'll be able to find the root directory and filenames pretty easily.

miod
From Clermont-Ferrand (France)
Who joined Oct. 9, 2009, 2:44 a.m.

Wrote the following at June 7, 2017, 10:33 p.m...

kjaer wrote: If "minifs" contains a miniroot filesystem, which you have written to partition 1, I rate it unlikely that the name of the file within that miniroot filesystem which contains the kernel you are meant to boot is also "minifs". it may be called 'munix' though. have a look at minifs in a hex editor, you'll be able to find the root directory and filenames pretty easily.

Indeed. According to the SPARCbook 2 documentation, which probably applies to the SPARCbook 1 as well in this case:

tadpole wrote: When the minifs has been loaded onto the SPARCbook successfully, the following menu will be displayed:

Code: Select all
1> Boot Default File 2> Boot Alternate File 3> Change Default File Enter Choice> 2
Select the option to boot an alternate file and then, from the next menu, select the option to boot from the hard disk:

Code: Select all
New Source for Boot File 1> Hard Disk 2> Ethernet 3> SCSI Enter Choice> 1
Then when prompted, enter the following file specification:

Code: Select all
Enter file spec> 0 1 vmunix

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jammaster
From France / Lyon
Who joined Nov. 6, 2015, 9:47 a.m.

Wrote the following at June 8, 2017, 9:26 a.m...

...thank Guys...
Working great with the file 0 1 /vmunix
Strange, on the sbook 1 user manual, this isn't documented? ...

Now, i have a mini kernel/terminal but ... when trying to download the files i have an "access denied".

I presume, a port blocked on the SS20 ???
This seem to be the port 1023.
I have "snooped" the traffic.

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jammaster
From France / Lyon
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Wrote the following at June 8, 2017, 2:36 p.m...

I think it's a RSH, RLOGIN problem.
these services are activated in inetd.conf.
Not sure about my hosts???

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IR2E 6GB 4x400Mhz .... MAXImp/4MB 512MB 195Mhz .... Extreme 384MB 250Mhz....Elan 64MB R3K ....
............. :Indy:

................................. :Octane2:

.................
XS24 256MB 150 Mhz R5K .... V12 2GB 2x600Mhz ....

Intergraph TDZ2000 GL2 4110GT 1GB 2x600Mhz ... HP Visualize X-Class FX10 4GB 2x1000Mhz ... IBM 5160 V20, 8087 30Mb ... IBM 5162 10Mhz, 287XL, 6Mb, ST-4096 ... APPLE PowerMAC 9600/300 ... APPLE Quadra 840AV ... APPLE PowerMAC G5 Quad ... DEC AlphaStation 255/300 PS40 ... DEC AlphaStation 500/333 PS51 ... IBM RS/6000 PowerStation 7012-320 + GT3i ... SUN SparcStation 20 256MB AG10-E 2xSM81 ... SUN Ultra 80 4x450Mhz ... Amiga 2000HD, ECS 2MB ... Intergraph InterPro 225 ... DEC AlphaServer 4100 4x533Mhz 2MB ... SUN V880 ... DEC Multia 233Mhz

miod
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Wrote the following at June 12, 2017, 9:44 a.m...

jammaster wrote: I think it's a RSH, RLOGIN problem.
these services are activated in inetd.conf.
Not sure about my hosts???

Restoration of the filesystem is likely done using rcp, thus it requires the server to accept rsh connections as root. You might want to temporarily put a .rhosts file with "+" in the root's home directory on the server, for the time of the restoration process.

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