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Indigo² Impact 10000 (R10k 175 MHz, 320 RAM, High-AA Impact+TRAM, 73 GB HDD) - Now upgraded

eudatux23 avatar
eudatux23
From Sonsbeck, Germany
Who joined Dec. 19, 2011, 4:52 a.m.
Wrote the following at May 27, 2015, 4:20 a.m...
This is my new Indigo² Impact 10000. I just did a test install of IRIX 6.5.22 and it worked great.

Everything works fine. At the weekend I'll get a High Impact-AA with TRAM extension instead of the current "normal" High Impact. Also the RAM and hard disk will be expanded.

Specs:
  • R10000 @ 175 MHz
  • 128 MB RAM (will be expanded) 320 MB RAM
  • High Impact (will be changed to a High-AA Impact with TRAM) High-AA Impact with TRAM
  • 9 GB HDD (will be expanded to 73 GB) 73 GB HDD
  • IRIX 6.5.22f

Also I have included a photo of it.

OLD hinv -vm:

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FPU: MIPS R10010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 0.0
CPU: MIPS R10000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.5
1 175 MHZ IP28 Processor
Main memory size: 128 Mbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte
Instruction cache size: 32 Kbytes
Data cache size: 32 Kbytes
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 (unit 1)
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version WD33C93B, revision D
On-board serial ports: 2
On-board bi-directional parallel port
Graphics board: High Impact
Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1
Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 1.1.0
EISA bus: adapter 0


OLD gfxinfo:

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Graphics board 0 is "IMPACTPC" graphics.
Managed (":0.0") 1280x1024
Product ID 0x0, 1 GE, 1 RE, 1 TRAM
MGRAS revision 3, RA revision 5
HQ rev A, GE11 rev B, RE4 rev A, PP1 rev A,
VC3 rev A, CMAP rev EMC rev D
21" monitor (id 0xb)

Channel 0:
Origin = (0,0)
Video Output: 1280 pixels, 1024 lines, 72.24Hz (1280x1024_72)
:Octane2: SGI Octane 2 - Dual R12K 400 MHz - 250 0MB RAM - 73 GB HDD - vPro v12 - IRIX 6.5.30
:Indigo2IMP: SGI Indigo² - R10K 175 MHz - 320 MB RAM - 73 GB SCSI HDD - High Impact-AA + TRAM - IRIX 6.5.22f
:O2: SGI O2 - R5K 180 MHz - 96 MB RAM - 18 GB HDD - CRM - IRIX 6.5.30
Trippynet avatar
Trippynet
From Scotland, UK
Who joined Aug. 15, 2013, 6:22 a.m.
Wrote the following at May 27, 2015, 9:46 a.m...
Very nice system!
Systems in use:
:Fuel: - Lithium : R14000 600MHz CPU, 4GB RAM, V10 Graphics, 36GB 15k HDD & 300GB 10k HDD, New/quiet fans, IRIX 6.5.30
:Indigo2IMP: - Nitrogen : R10000 195MHz CPU, 384MB RAM, SolidIMPACT Graphics, 36GB 15k HDD & 300GB 10k HDD, New/quiet fans, IRIX 6.5.22
Other systems in storage: :O2: x 2, :Indy: x 2
jan-jaap avatar
jan-jaap
From Wijchen, The Netherlands
Who joined June 17, 2004, 11:35 a.m.
Wrote the following at May 27, 2015, 12:30 p.m...
Nice Indigo2!

If you want a 195MHz CPU there's one on eBay.de for 20buck o.b.o.

BTW: you mention Maximum Impact-AA, did you mean High Impact-AA?
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi
Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
eudatux23 avatar
eudatux23
From Sonsbeck, Germany
Who joined Dec. 19, 2011, 4:52 a.m.
Wrote the following at May 27, 2015, 1:10 p.m...
Hi,

yes I meant High Impact-AA, my mistake. :D

Thank you very very much for the CPU auction hint, just bought it. :)
:Octane2: SGI Octane 2 - Dual R12K 400 MHz - 250 0MB RAM - 73 GB HDD - vPro v12 - IRIX 6.5.30
:Indigo2IMP: SGI Indigo² - R10K 175 MHz - 320 MB RAM - 73 GB SCSI HDD - High Impact-AA + TRAM - IRIX 6.5.22f
:O2: SGI O2 - R5K 180 MHz - 96 MB RAM - 18 GB HDD - CRM - IRIX 6.5.30
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ClassicHasClass
From Sunny So Cal
Who joined July 25, 2012, 7:12 p.m.
Wrote the following at May 27, 2015, 4:36 p.m...
Sexy! Very similar to mine.
smit happens.

:Fuel: bigred , 900MHz R16K, 4GB RAM, V12 DCD, 6.5.30
:Indy: indy , 150MHz R4400SC, 256MB RAM, XL24, 6.5.10
:Indigo2IMP: purplehaze , R10000, Solid IMPACT
probably posted from Image bruce , Quad 2.5GHz PowerPC 970MP, 16GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.4.11
plus IBM POWER6 p520 * Apple Network Server 500 * HP C8000 * BeBox * Solbourne S3000 * Commodore 128 * many more...
eudatux23 avatar
eudatux23
From Sonsbeck, Germany
Who joined Dec. 19, 2011, 4:52 a.m.
Wrote the following at May 31, 2015, 2:19 a.m...
I've upgraded it now.

  • RAM: 128 MB -> 320 MB
  • Graphics Card: High Impact -> High-AA Impact with 4 MB TRAM
  • Hard Disk: 9 GB -> 73 GB

Once the new cpu arrives it will also get a 195 MHz CPU.
:Octane2: SGI Octane 2 - Dual R12K 400 MHz - 250 0MB RAM - 73 GB HDD - vPro v12 - IRIX 6.5.30
:Indigo2IMP: SGI Indigo² - R10K 175 MHz - 320 MB RAM - 73 GB SCSI HDD - High Impact-AA + TRAM - IRIX 6.5.22f
:O2: SGI O2 - R5K 180 MHz - 96 MB RAM - 18 GB HDD - CRM - IRIX 6.5.30
ivelegacy
From Italy
Who joined Jan. 4, 2015, 5:12 a.m.
Wrote the following at June 22, 2015, 7:33 a.m...
eudatux23 wrote: [*]Graphics Card: High Impact -> High-AA Impact with 4 Mbyte TRAM


does your machine overheat a bit now ?
I mean, with the additional of the 4Mbyte TRAM

is the backplane's cooler good enough to assure the proper air flow ? or have you improved the cooler fan ?

my friend has upgraded to MaxImpact (from SolidImpact). With 4Mbyte TRAM the machine overheats a lot, fortunately he does not need to do any Texture Job, so he does not need the additional Tram module and he removed it. Btw, removing that module, the machine is still overheating, the less of course, but to avoid any troubles he has replaced the backplane's cooler with a better model.
Some prowling the streets, looking for sweets from their Candyman , I'm Looking for a new IP30/Octane2
My machine got the Xbow damaged, so I swapped for a second hand Rigol-DG1032Z WaveGen/DDS@30Mhz
IP30 purposes : linux (kernel development), Irix Scientific Apps { Ansys, Catia, Pro/E, FiberSIM, AutoDYNþ }
Other Projects : { Cerberus , Woody Box , 68K-board, SWI_DBG }, discontinued Console hacks { GB , PSX1 }
Wanted Equipments : { U1732C LCR meter by Keysight, alternatives are the welcome }
jan-jaap avatar
jan-jaap
From Wijchen, The Netherlands
Who joined June 17, 2004, 11:35 a.m.
Wrote the following at June 22, 2015, 8:17 a.m...
I don't understand what you mean with 'overheating'. There's no thermal shutdown on an Indigo2 -- it will run until it burns down, so to say.

I have a MaxImpact Indigo2, with the TRAM option cards and a G160 network card. It runs hot, surely. I used to have a cat who loved to bask in the exhaust heat. But overheat? Nope.

Beware that the Indigo2 chassis is divided into two sections. The part where the CPU and memory are is ventilated by the PSU and the airflow is front to back. The part where the graphics are has a dedicated fan and the airflow is from the back to the left side (or bottom, if it sits on it's feet). If you place the Indigo2 in a cramped space it may end up circulating the air!

The TRAMs get very hot, but that's not why they die. It's only the TRAM option cards that die, you don't hear much of HighImpact of MaxImpact boards where the 1MB 'base' TRAM goes bad. The TRAM option cards die because of mechanical and thermal stress in combination with aging soldering joints. I repaired a couple of them , you can find more details there.
Now this is a deep dark secret, so everybody keep it quiet :)
It turns out that when reset, the WD33C93 defaults to a SCSI ID of 0, and it was simpler to leave it that way... -- Dave Olson, in comp.sys.sgi
Currently in commercial service: Image :Onyx2: (2x) :O3x02L:
In the museum : almost every MIPS/IRIX system.
Wanted : GM1 board for Professional Series GT graphics (030-0076-003, 030-0076-004)
ivelegacy
From Italy
Who joined Jan. 4, 2015, 5:12 a.m.
Wrote the following at June 22, 2015, 11:03 a.m...
jan-jaap wrote: I don't understand what you mean with 'overheating'


the TRAMs get very hot, I am afraid that is easily the most likely parts to fail.

jan-jaap wrote: I have a MaxImpact Indigo2, with the TRAM option cards and a G160 network card. It runs hot, surely. I used to have a cat who loved to bask in the exhaust heat. But overheat? Nope.


He thought it might be an idea to stop using the Max set until he can fit the backplane with a better fan, because the unit gets very hot, and afraid of that, he removed the Tram option and the unit was a bit less hot. With the SolidImpact it's not so hot, it's warm. You say that is common to be very hot for a MaxImpact GFX with the Tram option installed.

jan-jaap wrote: The part where the CPU and memory are is ventilated by the PSU and the airflow is front to back.


Warm air out of the the PSU. The CPU is warm too.

jan-jaap wrote: The part where the graphics are has a dedicated fan and the airflow is from the back to the left side (or bottom, if it sits on it's feet). If you place the Indigo2 in a cramped space it may end up circulating the air!


Exactly that fan. Its the standard fan installed by SGI. We were thinking if to replace it with a model that moves more air. The Impact stands vertically with its feed, we have cleaned everything, there is no dust inside, the air flow is OK (tested with compressed air's gun).
Some prowling the streets, looking for sweets from their Candyman , I'm Looking for a new IP30/Octane2
My machine got the Xbow damaged, so I swapped for a second hand Rigol-DG1032Z WaveGen/DDS@30Mhz
IP30 purposes : linux (kernel development), Irix Scientific Apps { Ansys, Catia, Pro/E, FiberSIM, AutoDYNþ }
Other Projects : { Cerberus , Woody Box , 68K-board, SWI_DBG }, discontinued Console hacks { GB , PSX1 }
Wanted Equipments : { U1732C LCR meter by Keysight, alternatives are the welcome }
ivelegacy
From Italy
Who joined Jan. 4, 2015, 5:12 a.m.
Wrote the following at June 29, 2015, 5:13 a.m...
does someone know the Watt difference between MaxImpact and SolidImpact ?
Some prowling the streets, looking for sweets from their Candyman , I'm Looking for a new IP30/Octane2
My machine got the Xbow damaged, so I swapped for a second hand Rigol-DG1032Z WaveGen/DDS@30Mhz
IP30 purposes : linux (kernel development), Irix Scientific Apps { Ansys, Catia, Pro/E, FiberSIM, AutoDYNþ }
Other Projects : { Cerberus , Woody Box , 68K-board, SWI_DBG }, discontinued Console hacks { GB , PSX1 }
Wanted Equipments : { U1732C LCR meter by Keysight, alternatives are the welcome }
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Trippynet
From Scotland, UK
Who joined Aug. 15, 2013, 6:22 a.m.
Wrote the following at July 2, 2015, 3:54 a.m...
Info is on Ian's site .

Basically, 201 watts under load for SolidIMPACT, 319 watts for MaxIMPACT.
Systems in use:
:Fuel: - Lithium : R14000 600MHz CPU, 4GB RAM, V10 Graphics, 36GB 15k HDD & 300GB 10k HDD, New/quiet fans, IRIX 6.5.30
:Indigo2IMP: - Nitrogen : R10000 195MHz CPU, 384MB RAM, SolidIMPACT Graphics, 36GB 15k HDD & 300GB 10k HDD, New/quiet fans, IRIX 6.5.22
Other systems in storage: :O2: x 2, :Indy: x 2
chicaneuk
Who joined July 10, 2012, 3:48 a.m.
Wrote the following at July 3, 2015, 1:14 a.m...
Amazing how an Indigo2 with MaxIMPACT almost manages to hit the power consumption of a well loaded Tezro! That's progress! :)
:Indigo: :Indigo2: :Indigo2IMP: :Indy: :Octane2: :O200:
ivelegacy
From Italy
Who joined Jan. 4, 2015, 5:12 a.m.
Wrote the following at July 3, 2015, 9:49 a.m...
yeah, it's more 100 Watt, so … I'd better suggest and persuade my friend to install an high performance fan cooler
Some prowling the streets, looking for sweets from their Candyman , I'm Looking for a new IP30/Octane2
My machine got the Xbow damaged, so I swapped for a second hand Rigol-DG1032Z WaveGen/DDS@30Mhz
IP30 purposes : linux (kernel development), Irix Scientific Apps { Ansys, Catia, Pro/E, FiberSIM, AutoDYNþ }
Other Projects : { Cerberus , Woody Box , 68K-board, SWI_DBG }, discontinued Console hacks { GB , PSX1 }
Wanted Equipments : { U1732C LCR meter by Keysight, alternatives are the welcome }
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Trippynet
From Scotland, UK
Who joined Aug. 15, 2013, 6:22 a.m.
Wrote the following at July 4, 2015, 8:05 a.m...
It's also the reason why I've not pursued a MaxIMPACT board-set for my Indigo2. I simply do not do enough 3D stuff with it to justify the cost of the board and the extra heat/power consumption.

If I want to do any textured 3D stuff, that's what my Fuel is for :)
Systems in use:
:Fuel: - Lithium : R14000 600MHz CPU, 4GB RAM, V10 Graphics, 36GB 15k HDD & 300GB 10k HDD, New/quiet fans, IRIX 6.5.30
:Indigo2IMP: - Nitrogen : R10000 195MHz CPU, 384MB RAM, SolidIMPACT Graphics, 36GB 15k HDD & 300GB 10k HDD, New/quiet fans, IRIX 6.5.22
Other systems in storage: :O2: x 2, :Indy: x 2
ivelegacy
From Italy
Who joined Jan. 4, 2015, 5:12 a.m.
Wrote the following at July 4, 2015, 1:46 p.m...
As far as I have understood He prefers the IP28 because he wants to play with the EISA bus. He has already developed a toy board and he is happy this way. He does a lot of CAD, he plays with OpenGL (he has already developed a few crazy apps), fortunately there are no texture jobs in his mind, so he does not need the extra TRAM, that eats more power and more money =)

I think I had success in persuading him to buy and install the fan: trouble prevented, carefree usage :mrgreen:
Some prowling the streets, looking for sweets from their Candyman , I'm Looking for a new IP30/Octane2
My machine got the Xbow damaged, so I swapped for a second hand Rigol-DG1032Z WaveGen/DDS@30Mhz
IP30 purposes : linux (kernel development), Irix Scientific Apps { Ansys, Catia, Pro/E, FiberSIM, AutoDYNþ }
Other Projects : { Cerberus , Woody Box , 68K-board, SWI_DBG }, discontinued Console hacks { GB , PSX1 }
Wanted Equipments : { U1732C LCR meter by Keysight, alternatives are the welcome }